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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 06:46 AM
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How so? It seems you'd have to change all your alignment control pieces, since they are allowed in SCCA but not this NASA series. I suppose that's possible, though doesn't seem very. . . practical? Maybe there are other parts I'm missing as well.



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You can run a light clutch in NASA as well....no dice in SCCA.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
You can run a light clutch in NASA as well....no dice in SCCA.
I'm not convinced it will matter. Spec Z has HP limits that you can pretty easily hit with the stock clutch, pp and flywheel. No need to change them.

Take a T2 car -

Get a set of NASA wheels/tires
Put a Wavetrac diff in it (legal in both classes)
Put the KW shocks in it (legal in both classes)
Re-ballast it.

The only tricky part remaining is the springs and swaybars. If Nissan updates the T2 suspension kit for 2012 to be the same parts as the Spec Z kit, then you're golden. All you do is swap wheels and ballast between events.
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Any word on what the KW's will entail. Is it just going to be some OTS variant or will they be from their motorsports line?
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Any word on what the KW's will entail. Is it just going to be some OTS variant or will they be from their motorsports line?

Not sure...need to look up these part numbers


Nissan Motorsports Spec 350Z kit
The following is a breakdown of components supplied within these kits. All parts numbers are
Nissan Motorsports parts numbers. No substitution of parts is allowed. The kits must be used in
their entirety.
Shocks
• Front Left Shock Part# E6110-SZ350
• Front Right Shock Part# E6111-SZ350
• Rear Shock Part# E6210-SZ350
Springs
• Front Spring Part# 54010-SZ350
• Rear Spring Part# 55020-SZ350
Coil-Over kit
• Front/Rear Part# 5600S-SZ350
Anti-Roll Bars
• Front Progress Part# 54611-SZ350
• Rear Program Part# 56230-SZ350
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I'm not getting anything on google.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bkleeman
I'm not convinced it will matter. Spec Z has HP limits that you can pretty easily hit with the stock clutch, pp and flywheel. No need to change them.

Take a T2 car -

Get a set of NASA wheels/tires
Put a Wavetrac diff in it (legal in both classes)
Put the KW shocks in it (legal in both classes)
Re-ballast it.

The only tricky part remaining is the springs and swaybars. If Nissan updates the T2 suspension kit for 2012 to be the same parts as the Spec Z kit, then you're golden. All you do is swap wheels and ballast between events.
Maybe the n00b in me missed it, which is very likely, but doesn't SCCA allow any camber/control arms for suspension setting adjustments, but NASA SpecZ does not? If that's the case, OEM control arms, etc., would need to be installed, and one would be camber/toe limited running that same car in SCCA. It's likely I am making a n00b mistake - flame on.
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I just came across this and about crapped my pants. I need to look up all the spec parts and see what the cost will be. I most likely can't afford it this year. I still need to get my comp license too. I will most likely do this next year if there is a turnout in my region. I am very interested.

Another of year TT and I am in on this one. The payouts are very well.

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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holy crap I am not ready for wheel to wheel racing lol. Unfortunately I'm still stuck in HPDE2 on street tires. Excited and sad at the same time.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AznSky
holy crap I am not ready for wheel to wheel racing lol. Unfortunately I'm still stuck in HPDE2 on street tires. Excited and sad at the same time.
I guess it depends on how fast you want to get into WTW. I'm in DE-1 and may never get to WTW or even want to. But, this gives you an excellent path to steadily build your car up to spec level as you improve your ability up through DE-4, assuming that you can get your comp license from DE-4.

To me, this gives me time to improve, time to mod and time to see if the class even gets active. If all that falls into place I could see getting into WTW in maybe three years in a car I already own that I spread the cost of prep out over that 3 years.
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The spec tire is a BFG R1. Has anyone looked at those sizes. They're massive. The 275/35/18 (The spec size) is 10.9" wide. They expect that to safely fit onto a 9" wheel. I think BFG recommends 9.5" minimum. They say the front wheel cannot be larger than 9". I think that should change.
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Originally Posted by Fixxxercask
The spec tire is a BFG R1. Has anyone looked at those sizes. They're massive. The 275/35/18 (The spec size) is 10.9" wide. They expect that to safely fit onto a 9" wheel. I think BFG recommends 9.5" minimum. They say the front wheel cannot be larger than 9". I think that should change.

It's funny, but in original announcement they had talked about a staggered setup, but seem to have changed that. I wonder if the rim specs haven't been modified to reflect the change to square.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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OK that's it. I'm going to quit my job and travel the country racing SpecZ, T2, and T3. One race every weekend. I only have one thing I need to do first, find a sponsor with deep pockets....
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Originally Posted by mhoward1
It's funny, but in original announcement they had talked about a staggered setup, but seem to have changed that. I wonder if the rim specs haven't been modified to reflect the change to square.
A 10" front wheel would be ideal.

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OK that's it. I'm going to quit my job and travel the country racing SpecZ, T2, and T3. One race every weekend. I only have one thing I need to do first, find a sponsor with deep pockets....
Can you drag me along with you? Hi Bill!
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I don't think I can do it. There are way too many things I would have to put back on my car for this to happen. I would have to buy a bunch of OEM interior things plus all new wheels. Mine are all 18x9.5. I want all four to be the same.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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I was so excited after seeing this. But later reading the rules, I have to spend tons of money to de-tune my car, that's sux for me.

So the rules seems like excluded Nismo Z, right? otherwise, it will be killing all the early model Zs.
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I'm with you. If they would allow at least a 9.5" wheel for front I would be in better shape. I have 3 sets of 18x9.5" wheels. My dash is gone, heater core, diff would need replaced, sways replaced, coilovers replaced, buy new dash, buy new heater core, buy new blower fan, re-install e-brake and get the car re-tuned. I'm sure I missed some things. Either way, it'll cost me a fortune to go back. Then again I can make a lot of money selling what I got, but I'm sure I would still be so far in the hole buying all this other stuff i.e. spec sways, spec springs and shocks spec diff and so on.

I really really want to do this, but it is just not feasible. Not too mention, I have not seen a single 350Z in wheel to wheel in my region since I've started. I for once would feel like the playing field is level compared to TT.

Also, this is funny...

14.2 Camber
a) front and rear camber is unrestricted provided it is within the normal limits of adjustment. No
modification to increase or decrease camber is allowed.

What's the normal limits for the front. There is no front adjustment from the factory???

Or am I misunderstanding that?
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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Which kw coilover kit are they referring to? It says in the appendix that the kw are double adjustable. So v3 and clubsports?

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Originally Posted by acke15
Which kw coilover kit are they referring to? It says in the appendix that the kw are double adjustable. So v3 and clubsports?
I'm getting the feeling they may just be the V3's, but that's just a hunch. Someone with Nissan Motorsports in their speed dial want to confirm for us?
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Nice idea but it just seems like a stock class that you have to buy a bunch of parts that have been on the shelf too long and need to get sold to join the club
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