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Old 02-02-2012, 06:48 AM
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Do it...i would like to see it

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Hey don't make me post up my video interview by NASA
Old 02-02-2012, 06:56 AM
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LOL Here is my claim to fame from awhile ago. Car was pretty stock and on street tires with the 370 wheels in HPDE. I am behind the subi. This is one of the pics that cycles on the main page of the GL/MW region.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AznSky
Hey don't make me post up my video interview by NASA
Go for it.
Old 02-02-2012, 07:21 AM
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The only track we go to is Mid Ohio. To get the SCCA T2 and T3 cars the rules should have allowed the shocks and springs to make things a lot easier. The stock suspension, which is required, only allows you to legally get about 1.5 front camber. The 9" fronts and 10" rears are what SCCA specs for the T2 cars and 8.5 front and rear is T3 specs. If anyone wants to order some light weight wheels for this series let me know.
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Cool beans!
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Originally Posted by racerbob4
The only track we go to is Mid Ohio. To get the SCCA T2 and T3 cars the rules should have allowed the shocks and springs to make things a lot easier. The stock suspension, which is required, only allows you to legally get about 1.5 front camber. The 9" fronts and 10" rears are what SCCA specs for the T2 cars and 8.5 front and rear is T3 specs. If anyone wants to order some light weight wheels for this series let me know.
It states they need to be 18" wheels and can weigh no less than 18.50lbs
Old 02-02-2012, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by acke15
It states they need to be 18" wheels and can weigh no less than 18.50lbs
I wonder what that 18.50# really means. Does that include weights? Valve stem? Scale inaccuracies? I ask b/c the 18x9 RPF1 is stated to weigh 18.4#. Following fair math and sig figs, that would mean they are 18.3-18.5#. I assume that wheel is ok, yet - to be fair - the published weight is 18.4#. The 10" wheel, of course, is not a problem. I'd like to see a 9.5 or 10" wheel allowed up there anyway, but it doesn't really matter - I suppose - since we all will be under the same restrictions.
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Originally Posted by scotts300
I'd like to see a 9.5 or 10" wheel allowed up there anyway,


I don't understand why they want same size tires, but staggered wheels. Makes no sense. Must be a typo.
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I think my boner shifted the Earth's axis just now
de-tune
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
I think my boner shifted the Earth's axis just now
de-tune
LMFAO...
I emailed my buddy a similar thing yesterday.

Me: I think I am out already. I would have to put way too many OEM interior pieces back in. They want the heater core in place, yet you're allowed to remove all hoses going to it. I don't feel like spending 1000 bucks on OEM useless parts that I removed this winter and threw away.

Plus I would have to sell all my wheels and buy new. They limit front wheel to 9". I think it's stupid because the spec tire is 275/35/18. It's 10.9"
wide and they want that on a 9" wheel. DUMB!

Oh well. I got a boner for nothing.


Him: Yep.....that's a boner killer!
Old 02-02-2012, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fixxxercask


I don't understand why they want same size tires, but staggered wheels. Makes no sense. Must be a typo.
When Nissan was putting together the parts to submit to SCCA for approval for the T2 car they came up with a specific spring for the front, one for the rear, a sway bar of a specific size and the car handled best with the 9" wheels up front and 10" at the rear. SCCA wasn't going to approve a wheel larger than 10" on the car. The 9" wheels are not a disadvantage.

You guys are fussing about the cost of a 9" wheel which is peanuts compared to what the real costs are to race. For us the cost and especially the effort to change over from T2 - T3 specs is a lot more concern.
Old 02-02-2012, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by racerbob4
When Nissan was putting together the parts to submit to SCCA for approval for the T2 car they came up with a specific spring for the front, one for the rear, a sway bar of a specific size and the car handled best with the 9" wheels up front and 10" at the rear. SCCA wasn't going to approve a wheel larger than 10" on the car. The 9" wheels are not a disadvantage.

You guys are fussing about the cost of a 9" wheel which is peanuts compared to what the real costs are to race. For us the cost and especially the effort to change over from T2 - T3 specs is a lot more concern.
So I'll take that statement as 99%-fact that the specs won't change and I can order parts? Marty was talking about "all the T2/T3 Zs that sent in letters to NASA" which implied to me like they may listen to suggestions from the masses. Is it possible that they specs will change on-the-fly? That's one way to **** someone (hi!) off.
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My guess is the only thing that may be changed from a specs perspective is front wheel width (if enough write letters), but I wouldn't expect any changes in suspension, etc.
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Originally Posted by racerbob4
When Nissan was putting together the parts to submit to SCCA for approval for the T2 car they came up with a specific spring for the front, one for the rear, a sway bar of a specific size and the car handled best with the 9" wheels up front and 10" at the rear. SCCA wasn't going to approve a wheel larger than 10" on the car. The 9" wheels are not a disadvantage.

You guys are fussing about the cost of a 9" wheel which is peanuts compared to what the real costs are to race. For us the cost and especially the effort to change over from T2 - T3 specs is a lot more concern.
I think it will cost me far more to get my car into spec than a T2 or T3 guy. I am not saying a 9" wheel is a disadvantage either. I personally like a square setup with wheels and tires so I can rotate them all around. Not just front side to side and rear side to side. I could run all 9" tires and do that. It's just going to suck selling the 3 sets of wheels I have now and getting all new ones. Anyone want to trade? =)

Although, I have a lot of things I could sell and use that money to buy all the parts.

I am going to watch how everything transpires over the season and make my final decision at the end of this season if I am going to run it next year.

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Old 02-02-2012, 11:49 AM
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Scott, isn't your new car stitch welded?
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Originally Posted by Neimad
Scott, isn't your new car stitch welded?
I believe so.
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Originally Posted by laze1
Do it...i would like to see it
Man, called out.....

Ok here it is...pretty lame actually but I've never been interviewed before lol.

Don't know how to get it off their facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/vid...v=545354877816
Old 02-02-2012, 06:35 PM
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This is quite interesting, but I wonder what the real demand for a spec 350Z series is, especially given how many other spec classes already exist. I don't think I've seen a single 350Z racing in NASA W2W here in SoCal, but then again I can't claim to notice every car on track on a given weekend. And each time a new class is added, it has the possibility of merely diluting competition in existing classes.

That said, if the addition of this class brings in a bunch of new drivers from HPDE and/or TT, or even SCCA, then good for NASA.
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Well here is a good sign. Last night 4 ex 350z drivers who bought GTS, ST2, and GT1 cars were seriously talking about getting Zs and running this series.
Old 02-03-2012, 03:42 AM
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The best thing about this is that currently, NASA runs 3 active spec series (Miata, E30, 944). Instead of having to buy a car that is 12-20+ years old, you get a hell of a racecar for the money out of the box. I hope it does well!


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