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iTrader: (12)

I really don't want to buy a set of coilovers because I already have springs and don't want to spend alot of money here, but I did an auto-x the other day and was a little dissapointed in how the car handled on a course. The sways def helped with initial bite, but I need some better dampening.

So what would you suggest as far as that goes to make my car handle a bit better? I have the power...now I just need some better handling/braking abilities.

plastiketa

iTrader: (14)

I've heard good things about HKS Hipermax II.

If you want complete control of bound and rebound, look up KW Varient 3. With those, you can control the bound and rebound separately on each strut tower. The only thing is that the rears are not actual coilovers but oem style.

dklau33

iTrader: (17)

LOL.. the poster clearly stated he didn't want to get coilovers. If you just need a set of shocks you can't go wrong with the Tokico D-Specs or Koni Sports. Tokicos are simultaneous rebound and comperssion adjustable while the Konis are just rebound adjustable. I think the limit you can go with either regarding spring rate is 8kg/mm max. Do a search on these.

plastiketa

iTrader: (14)

Oops! I misread that then! I thought he meant that since he was disappointed with the spring performance that he would head that direction.

In that case, I agree with the Koni Sports. Not much complaint have come from the members who run on them on this forum.

002-M-P

iTrader: (12)

So, the Tokico D-Spec will work just as good if not better than the Koni Sports because they are both compression and rebound, meaning it would be much wiser spending roughly 500 on Tokico rather than 800 on Koni??? Thanks for the help

WA2GOOD

iTrader: (24)

BINGO..... +1 for Tokico D-Specs. These shocks are a real good buy for the money.

FrickU

WA2GOOD and I are both running the Tokico D-Spec/Eibach Spring setup.

Best for your money and they perform great

plumpzz

iTrader: (10)

Do they lower the car by much? Im getting RSR springs and I want the tokicos but I can't ride more than 1.2 or 1.3 below stock

FrickU

If you get the Eibach Pro Kit then you won't have problems...Get the Tokico and Eibach setup...I promise you won't be dissapointed for the money

WA2GOOD

iTrader: (24)

The shocks do not lower the car at all, the springs do that, the shocks (struts), although designed for lowered cars, do not change the ride hight (unless they are adjustable coilovers)

As for frick and I (for now), we both have the Tokico D-Spec and Eibach Sportline springs on our G coupes. They are a great cost efective way to go.

plumpzz

iTrader: (10)

Awsome! Thanks for tht information. Mind PM'ing me? I have some questions about those shocks.

WA2GOOD

iTrader: (24)

PM sent........

002-M-P

iTrader: (12)

Thanks for the input...if I end up keeping my car I will definately be investing in some D-Specs....how do you think they will work with Hotchkis springs (would a different spring be better for auto-x/track use?)

plumpzz

iTrader: (10)

Use a linear spring for autox or track

002-M-P

iTrader: (12)

the hotchkis springs are linear rate, but they have a pretty low spring rate. Just wondering if any other spring would be better. I can't go any lower on my suspension though without the tires rubbing. I was looking at Tein S-Tech's. The actually lower the car a little less than the Hotchkis and have a stiffer spring rate.

Gsedan35

iTrader: (10)

Hotchkis spirngs have a meaningfull increase in spring stiffness where you want it most, the front. They did not up the rear spring rates in a effort to get better harmony with the 03/04 oem shocks. Side benefit of their rear rates will be more traction coming out of the hole. Still, +8% isn't that much, so I do understand.

The Eibach's are progressive, some with wide rate spreads, for what your doing, you do not want that.

S-tech's are progressive in the front and linear in the rear.

IMO, I would get your shocks and do another run and see where your at.

Hotchkis 350Z Linear springs .6”/.8” drop
Spring rates in lbs 340/330
Stiffer or softer then oem springs by F+8% R-3%

Tein S-tech 350z (fronts are progressive, rears are linear) .7”/.6” drop
Spring rates in lbs 386/402 (final rates only, softer initial front progressive rate unknown)

RSR 350Z linear springs .6”/.6” drop
Spring rates in LBS 345/417
Stiffer then oem by F+10% R+22% (see note at very top)

002-M-P

iTrader: (12)

Thanks for the info GSedan....if you had to go with any spring to match the Tokico struts what would they be?

It just seems like a hassle to install my struts with my current springs and then swap them out for better springs later if they would be better. I want the best setup I can get without booting the bill for a set of coilovers.

Gsedan35

iTrader: (10)

I support your desire to not get into coilover $. But, even with just a 1" drop shock travel is at a premium even with bumpstops that are shorter then oem cut down ones.

I'd do Tokico D-spec springs or if your game for a bit of *custom work, TomMotorsport sleave coilover inserts with softer (they come with 500/500 spring rates out of the box) Eibach ERS springs swapped in say 450-400lbs front and 400-375lbs rear.

*Custom meaning that their's a metal cap at the top of the Tokico shock that's wider then the shock body below it. That cap has to be ground flush to the width of the shock body in order for the sleave coilover assembly to slide onto the shock (you will not effect the shock functionally or structually by doing the work). The right bit in a dremel should make short work of it.

002-M-P

iTrader: (12)

Thanks, do you know the spring rates of the tokico d-spec springs?

002-M-P

iTrader: (12)

Also, just a quick general question about handling characteristics. My car pushes pretty badly, what would I do to counter this effect?