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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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Hi. Many products claim to hide swirls.

I am using NXT wax (polymer) and it doesnt hide swirls but it diminishes them some for up to a week after use.

I am wondering How well Zaino works against swirls. I assume since it lasts so long and you can build up layers, that it should work pretty well.

So is that the case? Does Zaino Hide swirls?

If so by applying Zaino coat after coat can you indefinitely hide swirls?

from What I gather Zaino can be applied layer after layer and it builds up as you do this.

I have super black and the Swirl marks are starting to annoy me. I need advice and I dont want another temporary fix that only hides the swirls for a few days.

Thanks for any advice
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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If they are just minor "swirls" Zaino will work. Many layers of Z5 over timer will do the trick! Also, the towels you have been using probably caused the swirls. I might suggest you get some towels from: www.dftowel.com Also "Big Blue" from: www.pakshak.com

Good Luck!
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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I've used both products extensively and feel that NXT is superior in filling up swirls.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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if you don't want a temp fix...get a true polish, PC and then seal...
many products too choose from
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by mrZeee
if you don't want a temp fix...get a true polish, PC and then seal...
many products too choose from

I'm w/ Mrzee on that one
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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Good cleaning, clay bar, and a few coats of Z5 will keep the swirls away!
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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Z-5 is the product to hide paint imperfections...
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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key word is hide....and is a temporary solution..Z5 is a filler...once that washes away...the swirls that were hidden will return with whatever new ones have been created...once you truly polish(with a megs polish or any other true polish)...your old swirls will be GONE not HIDDEN...a good sealant may help protect from further swirling...but I think the process of swirl creation can never be avoided...
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Z-5 however is very durable unlike a product like 3M Imperial Hand Glaze which also hides but will be gone with the first rain or wash job.....
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Old Aug 29, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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just ordered the Zaino kit for my Super Black Z, can hardly for this weekend to come. any primo tips from anyone?
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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What's a good polish that will permanently remove swirls? Thanks.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Nothing parmenately removes swirls unless you stop putting them in the paint. I use the Menzerna polishes with good results.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by SungNamZ
If they are just minor "swirls" Zaino will work. Many layers of Z5 over timer will do the trick! Also, the towels you have been using probably caused the swirls. I might suggest you get some towels from: www.dftowel.com Also "Big Blue" from: www.pakshak.com

Agree 100% If you use the right towels, you wont have to worry about swirls.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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if you want to remove swirls, try 3m swirl and scratch remover, using a buffer with a light cutting pad, this actually removes a thin layer or your clearcoat, to take many of the swirls and light scatches out. Follow that will a few coats of z5, and you should be set. Make sure to use good microfiber towels as many others have said, and make sure the dealer doesnt wash your car when you take it in. Honestly, for me its like they wash it with dawn, my car looks like the wax has been stripped.
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It's more than just towels. In fact, what and how you wash it are probably more important than what you dry it with.

If you use a sponge or something that holds dirt, then you're scraping the dirt across the surface of your car. Use a lambs wool or cotton chenile mitt. Never use something like a kitchen dish towel or an old T-shirt. Too many things in them that can scratch your paint (i.e. nylon threads).

If you use a 1 gal bucket of water to wash the whole car, then by the time you're finished the water looks like chocolate milk from all the dirt. Again, you're rubbing it all over your paint. Use a 5 gal paint bucket - actually two of them. Once with soapy water to wash with and the second with clear water to rinse the mitt with before soaping it again.

Use powered detergent? Don't, it doesn't totally dissolve and the solid particles will scratch your paint.

Wash your wheels with the same mitt/cloth as the car? Wash the wheels first? Don't - the brake dust will get into the cloth and your wash water and scratch the paint. Wash the wheels first then rinse everything out before washing the car. I use a soft cloth on the wheels that never touches the cars paint.

Don't wash the lower parts of the car first - they're usually dirtier having picked up road grime, tar, etc. Always wash from the top down.

Drying the car is the easy part to avoiding scratches. When done properly most of the water beads off anyway. What little is left can be absorbed just by laying a WW towel on it. No rubbing - no scratching.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by DavesZ#3
It's more than just towels. In fact, what and how you wash it are probably more important than what you dry it with.

If you use a sponge or something that holds dirt, then you're scraping the dirt across the surface of your car. Use a lambs wool or cotton chenile mitt. Never use something like a kitchen dish towel or an old T-shirt. Too many things in them that can scratch your paint (i.e. nylon threads).

If you use a 1 gal bucket of water to wash the whole car, then by the time you're finished the water looks like chocolate milk from all the dirt. Again, you're rubbing it all over your paint. Use a 5 gal paint bucket - actually two of them. Once with soapy water to wash with and the second with clear water to rinse the mitt with before soaping it again.

Use powered detergent? Don't, it doesn't totally dissolve and the solid particles will scratch your paint.

Wash your wheels with the same mitt/cloth as the car? Wash the wheels first? Don't - the brake dust will get into the cloth and your wash water and scratch the paint. Wash the wheels first then rinse everything out before washing the car. I use a soft cloth on the wheels that never touches the cars paint.

Don't wash the lower parts of the car first - they're usually dirtier having picked up road grime, tar, etc. Always wash from the top down.

Drying the car is the easy part to avoiding scratches. When done properly most of the water beads off anyway. What little is left can be absorbed just by laying a WW towel on it. No rubbing - no scratching.

DavesZ...just nailed it...Hi-5 man

and you can remove existing swirls...megs #9 (2.0) the megs 80 series...among the countless other manufacturers..I'm just not big on using at cutting pad as mofoz suggested...most of our Z's should have paint in decent condition...start with the mildest polish and pad..then work your way up to more aggressive polishes and pads if not achieving the desired results
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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Not familiar with Megs #9 but I do know that the 3M SMR (Swirl Mark Remover) works fine.
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