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Old 12-03-2007, 06:22 PM
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well this tsb sucks for me....because according to it, my v2 that i thought was working out for me, meets its "NO GOOD" area on its graph =(

its been 2200 miles and im past half.

if this is their stipulations for whats an OCing revup....then their "real" revised revup must be perfect. but i really hope i dont have to get a v3 cuz ill cry.

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Old 12-03-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by creationv2
well this tsb sucks for me....because according to it, my v2 that i thought was working out for me, meets its "NO GOOD" area on its graph =(

its been 2200 miles and im past half.

if this is their stipulations for whats an OCing revup....then their "real" revised revup must be perfect. but i really hope i dont have to get a v3 cuz ill cry.
Actually, this could be really good. Nissan may have bent themselves over on this one because it is now plainly defined what constitutes excessive consumption.

I have the v2 and got it by going through the process and filing the final repair attempt paperwork.

Since this is their final repair attempt, then a No Good reading gives me a ton of power for a replacement vehicle.

The dealer also insisted that it was full when I went in (not sure what they did, but I saw it and it was at the H). Well, 1300 miles later, I am down 15mm. The only real issue is getting an honest reading out of a dealer. That can easily be taken care of with a camera.
Old 12-04-2007, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by creationv2
well this tsb sucks for me....because according to it, my v2 that i thought was working out for me, meets its "NO GOOD" area on its graph =(

its been 2200 miles and im past half.

if this is their stipulations for whats an OCing revup....then their "real" revised revup must be perfect. but i really hope i dont have to get a v3 cuz ill cry.
I also just got my V2. It's been 1,000 miles and when I checked my oil level it was half way already.

I'm having another oil consumption test right now. I took it this morning and will be bringing it back after another 1,000 miles.
Old 12-04-2007, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cruZin163
I also just got my V2. It's been 1,000 miles and when I checked my oil level it was half way already.

I'm having another oil consumption test right now. I took it this morning and will be bringing it back after another 1,000 miles.
I may be wrong, but I believe that some oil consumption during break-in is normal.
Old 12-04-2007, 02:57 PM
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What do you think?

How long does the average break-in take?





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Old 12-04-2007, 04:28 PM
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Why has this thread been un-stickied? Will a mod please revert it into a sticky? Having the TSB as a sticky is great but this thread is about a lot more than that. I have found other users' experiences and tips very beneficial.
Old 12-04-2007, 04:37 PM
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my car went in today for its v2 hoping for the best
Old 12-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by usmanasif
Why has this thread been un-stickied? Will a mod please revert it into a sticky? Having the TSB as a sticky is great but this thread is about a lot more than that. I have found other users' experiences and tips very beneficial.
AGREE^^^^
Old 12-04-2007, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by usmanasif
Why has this thread been un-stickied? Will a mod please revert it into a sticky? Having the TSB as a sticky is great but this thread is about a lot more than that. I have found other users' experiences and tips very beneficial.
I agree- this is a big deal for this model year, would be great if we could keep it at the top
Old 12-04-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cheshirecat79
I may be wrong, but I believe that some oil consumption during break-in is normal.
+1 its normal...also when the dealer puts in the new motor, they most of the time or negligent in checking the prefilled oil in the motor, 5 qts amounts to about half on the dip stick due to it filling in all the nooks and crannies. (or so ive been told and explained about)
Old 12-05-2007, 07:07 AM
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Hi Guys / Gals. I thought it might be helpful to some folks if the "Allowed Oil Consumption" was mapped proportionally to the "DipStick". So I drew this up in Visio...
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:59 AM
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^ very nice...

Agree about keeping this thread as a sticky.
Three reasons I feel it's still important:
1- Us G ppl haven't received this OC TSB win.
2- This thread has a running update with the success rate of the V2 that ZeeForce has so diligently kept going from members updates.
3- Is there or will there be a V3 released at a later date.

Administrators/Moderators...please reconsider.
Old 12-05-2007, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Hi Guys / Gals. I thought it might be helpful to some folks if the "Allowed Oil Consumption" was mapped proportionally to the "DipStick". So I drew this up in Visio...
very good idea

well done mate!



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Originally Posted by gothchick
Hi Guys / Gals. I thought it might be helpful to some folks if the "Allowed Oil Consumption" was mapped proportionally to the "DipStick". So I drew this up in Visio...
Good work, but you should remove the mention of oil quantity from the Y axis on the graphic or perhaps update it. In my experience, when the oil is one full quart low, drip stick is at exactly half. I have confirmed that several times in the past few months.
Old 12-05-2007, 10:18 AM
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BTW, I have PM'd Matt (ZU L8R). Hopefully this will be re-stickied soon.
Old 12-05-2007, 10:45 AM
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@gothchick:

I think there is a little mistake in your calculation:

1/4 th of the dipstick is not 0.25 qt
half of dipstick ist not 0.5 qt
3/4 of dipstick is not 0.75 qt
...

The oil consumption chart allows 1 qt per 3750 miles.
or
The oil consumption chart allows 0.133 qt per 500 miles.

Your dipstick refers to the 8 intervals, after 1st the maximum allowed consumption is about 0.133 qt (2mm), after 2nd interval the allowed consumption is about 0.266 qt (6mm), after 3rd it´s about 0.399 qt (8mm) and so on...


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Old 12-05-2007, 11:41 AM
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I took my 2003 G35 in today, and it was 3 quarts low in 1000 miles. They tried to tell me to take it in for a FOURTH time, but I said 3 1000 mile tests is enough. First one = 2 quarts low. Second = 1.5 quarts low. They want me to bring in the receipts of the service records. Fortunately the service has been done at Infiniti/Nissan dealerships.
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Are you guys sure the hashed area on the dipstick isn't (1) quart? I always thought it was...

Originally Posted by ZeeForce
Guys I have personally confirmed the question a lot of have posted up on, including myself.

Q: How much oil loss is there between the H” & L” cross hatch marks on the dipstick.
A: 1 quart


Confirmation: Today I had the dealer change the oil on my 05 SS (same oil capacity -5 qt as the 06). I was able to stand next to the car the entire time and we poured in 3 quarts and it did not even register on the dipstick. Poured the 4th quart in and it registered on the last cross hatch mark at the bottom of the “L”. I was also informed that all manufactures (Ford, Toyota, GMC etc) all use the same standards on the dipstick as to the amount of oil low which is 1 quart. It’s an industry standard within the manufactures to all keep their “L & H” marks on the dipstick to be the same.

Oh, and we did crank the engine after 3 qrts were poured in, to get oil into the oil filter. Then we poured the fourth quart in and let it sit for 20-30 minutes, checked the hash mark at it was spot on the 24 mm mark (bottom cross hatch mark).

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Originally Posted by gothchick
Are you guys sure the hashed area on the dipstick isn't (1) quart? I always thought it was...
Absolutely. 100% positive. That's what I spent my summer doing

My Z burns exactly one quart every 1000 miles. So at that point, when I check the dipstick, it is at exactly half. I add a quart and it comes to exactly the H mark. Never fails.

Dipsticks are not meant to be linear.
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So how much oil is represented between the H & L on the dip stick then?... "Exactly"?

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