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Old 04-08-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AllStock
is yours consuming oil as well?
Yes, slightly. I switched to 0W-40 and it seems to have helped for now. But if these engine replacements aren't the solution, I'll deal with it until I can afford to rebuild the motor.
Old 04-08-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dbasal
You never know. It could work out fine for you. Hopefully it will.

I hope it does.. But i was kinda thinking of selling and buying a new toy till all this happend.. Now i have no idea.
Old 04-10-2008, 09:11 AM
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So what do you guys consider "oil consumption."

Like when its time to change your oil, theres barely any on the stick? or theres half of what you put in it, on the stick
Old 04-10-2008, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Scipher21
So what do you guys consider "oil consumption."

Like when its time to change your oil, theres barely any on the stick? or theres half of what you put in it, on the stick

I know there is like 150 pages of crap to read here but if you just pop to page one... that will clear it all up for you..
Old 04-11-2008, 03:33 PM
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Just picked up my G with the V2 (10102-ac7M9)

I'll keep ya posted
Old 04-11-2008, 07:14 PM
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***LATEST RECALL INFO FOR ALL 2006 350Z OWNERS** NNA has just released a recall on the 350z dipstick. Apparently it's a 1/2 inch too short. At five quarts full, the oil level will only reach the curls at the bottom of the stick. SEE, THERE IS NO OIL CONSUMPTION PROBLEM!!!!
Old 04-11-2008, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AFTAMYZ
***LATEST RECALL INFO FOR ALL 2006 350Z OWNERS** NNA has just released a recall on the 350z dipstick. Apparently it's a 1/2 inch too short. At five quarts full, the oil level will only reach the curls at the bottom of the stick. SEE, THERE IS NO OIL CONSUMPTION PROBLEM!!!!
I guess I got the magic dipstick that somehow reads full then...
Old 04-11-2008, 08:19 PM
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It must be one of those hand-built japanese dipsticks.
Old 04-11-2008, 09:02 PM
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ok, just got back from the dealership after the 1000 mile test. Says that 7mm is in the normal range for 1000 miles. The guy measured mine at 15mm and on the work order says ordered new long block. Well i get to the service writer and he says that now nissan wants to do a second check for another 1000 miles. Im like wtf the tsb says 1 time if its low change the oil. Anybody have any suggestions ?? would be appreciative thanks
Old 04-11-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AFTAMYZ
***LATEST RECALL INFO FOR ALL 2006 350Z OWNERS** NNA has just released a recall on the 350z dipstick. Apparently it's a 1/2 inch too short. At five quarts full, the oil level will only reach the curls at the bottom of the stick. SEE, THERE IS NO OIL CONSUMPTION PROBLEM!!!!
Is this real? Forgive my doubt but with only 2 post I hope you understand. If te sticks were a half inch to short would that not equate to everyone has been putting a half quart to much oil? If this is some kind of joke you are misleading a lot of people who are desperately looking for a light of info.
Old 04-11-2008, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AFTAMYZ
***LATEST RECALL INFO FOR ALL 2006 350Z OWNERS** NNA has just released a recall on the 350z dipstick. Apparently it's a 1/2 inch too short. At five quarts full, the oil level will only reach the curls at the bottom of the stick. SEE, THERE IS NO OIL CONSUMPTION PROBLEM!!!!
Originally Posted by AFTAMYZ
It must be one of those hand-built japanese dipsticks.
Post the TSB up so we can see if it directly relates to the V2. What are your sources to this claim?

My stick has always been on full line with 5 qts with filter change since I bought mine new.

Originally Posted by AFTAMYZ
SEE, THERE IS NO OIL CONSUMPTION PROBLEM!!!!
You are seriously wrong in that statement my friend lol.
Old 04-12-2008, 12:18 AM
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Settle down. I'm only joking. After two V1 replacement engines and now a V2 that's eating a quart and a half every 2000 miles, I wouldn't put anything past Nissan. I've been reading this post since 2006, but decided to finally comment today. My story is like alot of others here. I will say this, I owe alot to all the guys who commented in this forum. There is a huge amount of info that I got here and used in my cases against Nissan. So my advice to everyone new here... don't get bent outta shape on all the wild theories collected over the years. BOTTOM LINE: the 2006 350z is flawed and Nissan will have to answer for it... if we make them. Good luck to all...
Old 04-12-2008, 05:07 AM
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BUYBACK IS SWEET

I'm getting back WAY more than expected and went direct with NNA, no lawyer, just asked for a buyback.

Bottom line: I payed $26,998 and am getting back $30,490 - $6,500 more than I ever expected (mostly due to they paid the interest on my loan, sales tax, and license!).

Here's the final agreement letter:

FROM NNA TO ME: "Thank you for allowing Nissan North America the opportunity to review your concerns regarding your 2006 Nissan 350Z (I like the word "concerns"!!! It's just a concern - this could never be our fault!). At this time, Nissan North America will offer to repurchase the above referenced vehicle under the California Lemon Law. Nissan, per the state lemon law repurchase formula, has clculated the repurchase figures as follows:

Purchase Price: $26,995.00
Sales Tax: $2,095.60
Doc Fee: $45.00
License Fee: $238.00
Tire Fee: $8.75
Interest Paid: $4,200.19
Prorated Registration for 2008: $16.92
Less Mileage Usage: (-$3,025.01) (started consuming at 8k)

Settlement Total: $30,574.45

If you wish to accept this offer, please return this signed form with the following documents:

1) Name of Nissan dealership you wish to surrender the vehicle.
2) Written confirmation that there are no vehicle modifications (i.e. aftermarket DVD player, radio, etc). If modifications exist, please note them. Any modifications not installed by a Nissan dealership must be removed prior to the vehicle surrender, with the exception of window tinting.

Once accepted and the requested information is received, we anticipate completing the repurchase within 30 days. An agent from Morley VSPC, our third-part vendor, will contact you to schedule the vehicle surrender. They will arrange to meet you at a certified Nissan dealership, which is where they will take possession of your vehicle and give you a check for the amount listed above ("settlement total"). It is also important to note that Morley VSPC will be instructed by Nissan North America to do the following:

1) Ensure the customer signs the necessary documents to provide a clear certificate of title to Nissan North America.
2) Ensure the customer returns all keys.

Please sign the below and fax to 615-267-7529.

Thank you again for contacting Nissan North America and for allowing us the opportunity to be of assistance.

Respectfully,

Peter Martinex
Arbitration Specialist II
Nissan North America, Inc.
Old 04-12-2008, 12:08 PM
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^ How many times was your engine replaced?
Old 04-12-2008, 03:29 PM
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Also how do you guys check the oil level. With the car hot or cold?

I tried checking it with the car hot and couldnt get a good oil reading due to oil being all over the damn stick. And I mean oil way past the 2nd indention on the stick.

I just checked the car now after leaving it to sit overnight and the oil level is a 1/3 down. The oil was las changed a little less than 500 miles ago.
Old 04-12-2008, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo1182
^ How many times was your engine replaced?
I got the buyback (verbal) from NNA right before they put in my 2nd V2.

This 2nd V2 is consuming out of the box. It only has 600 miles and has already consumed little over 1/2 quart. And I followed precisely what they said:
- no quick starts
- not to exceed 4,000rpm
- etc.. (babied it as if I was going to keep it)

Also used the oil provided in the V2 (FROM JAPAN!!!).

FOLKS THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OIL WE USE OR THE WAY WE BREAK IT IN!! DON'T BELIEVE THIS SH***T BEING PUT OUT HERE. THIS MOTOR IS DEFECTIVE AND CAN START CONSUMING AT ANY MILEAGE AS MY FIRST TWO DID!

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Old 04-12-2008, 06:16 PM
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BEFORE I LEAVE THIS THREAD FOR GOOD, MY ADVICE IS BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU READ HERE.

Truth is you have two people who have taken control of this thread as if they are guru's and want you to believe it's your driving habits or the oil you use that causes or contributes to this oil consumption issue - 06CPV35 and ZForce.

NEITHER OF THEM OWN A 2006 350Z (rev up) OR A V2. One has a G35 (V1) and the other owns a 2005 350Z (non-rev up). He knows someone who has a V2 and states on here he has both, a 2005 and 2006 rev up, but the 2006 is not his. I've been very open about our disagreement that oil type and break-in style are not the issue - it's a number of mechanical flaws when they changed design to the rev up. We look at the stats quite differently. They believe the V2 is still essentially good and want to find out why some have problems and others don't but the hidden agenda is this wouldn't really happen to folks who broke it in properly or use the right oil. After my repeated pleas to please update the stats list on page 1, which are from January, they still have not been updated with all the failing V2s out there. This makes no sense to me.

Anyhow, I imagine they will respond to this in their defense and say they really are objective and you don't need to be the owner of an oil consuming 2006 350Z or a V2 to have an understanding of the issue and empathize with those who do. They may even try and take further control as they have in the past by saying this thread should not be used to discuss buyback or other options - it's only to discuss what's causing the problem. I'm saying you have this problem with this thread and it's not helpful to those of us who have this problem and either want to confront Nissan with this issue head-on or make an informed financial decision now that they are in this bind. The information and opinions are all here on 148 pages. The stats may not be up-to-date (on page 1) but a reasonable person can easily conclude from all of these testimonials (and there are a lot) that this really is a lemon motor (the V1 and V2) and has nothing to do with break-in style or the type of oil we use.

MY ADVICE - if you have a rev up - whether you have a loan or not get rid of it and make Nissan pay you. There are two ways.

1) If you have been to the dealer 4 times for any OC testing, diagnostics, or repair attempts you can get a good buyback as I have by calling NNA and demanding buyback. Check your state lemon law but here in Calif. they will pay your sales tax, license, and any interest you paid on your loan (in my case I made payments for a year and a half before I paid the car off and I got back over $4,000 in interest). It's a win situation.

2) If your car is paid off you may want to take the $4,000. NNA's first offer to you (after you ask for a buyback and wait 20-30 days for a decision) will be $4,000. You can either decline it and then they will immediately offer to buyback your car (because they have to - they know it's a lemon), or you can take the check for $4,000 and sell the vehicle (or keep it if you don't mind continued oil consumption and potential harm it has on the motor).

Hope this is helpful -

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Old 04-13-2008, 02:51 PM
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Great info photophan01...I might be doing this down the road as to see if my G is burning oil. I'm currently on oil consumption check, not to mention several SES light problems . Don't get me wrong I love my Gsedan but these problems are just overwhelming, I have 06 6mtsedan G ~12k miles. I noticed my oil level low from the beginning 3k I gave it a shot because I know that the car need to break in, but at 9K it's still the same so I started my OC test. So far my dealer said to come back another 1K. I'll play by their rules, but my car better not be consuming. Do you have NNA contact info? Would you be kind enough to share it with us? or if you can pm me that would be great. Thanks again.
Old 04-14-2008, 12:53 AM
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Potophan - your input and that letter was excellent!!!!! Real world info! Thank YOU so MUCH! BTW - just curious on the milage usage calculation. You have yours at $3,025.01. The calculation for CA should be [Purchase price * [(miles when first taken in)/120,000], For you that should be:

$26,995*(8000/120000)=$1,799.66 What happened???

Below is the paragraph from the California Atty. Genl site concerning this.

The lessee or buyer may be charged for the use of the vehicle regardless of whether the vehicle is replaced or the purchase price is refunded. The amount that may be charged for use is determined by multiplying the actual price of the new vehicle by a fraction having as its denominator 120,000 and as its numerator the number of miles traveled by the vehicle before it was first brought in for correction of the problem. For example, if the car had traveled 6,000 miles before it was first brought in for correction of the problem, the lessee or buyer could be charged 5% (6,000/120,000 = 5%) of the purchase price for usage.
Old 04-14-2008, 06:31 AM
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I have an 05 track model \/\/\/ (Obvioulsy) lol and i myself have noticed oil consumption. i just found this thread and am kinda confused at all the "legal talk". is nissan really gonna do something about it?


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