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Old 08-30-2007, 06:31 PM   #181
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ok, i tried reading everything in this thread.... but i got bored of some of the "re-answered" so i skim over some of it.

i gotta say...... i'd read prolly... 70% of every1's post.

and....... i got a headache, and dehydrated.

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ok soo..... let's just make my question simple for resolute.

i..... go to the drag strip about once every...... 6weeks or so... and.... i push my car pretty hard on the highway sometimes especially on the highway ramp.

what is a good oil for me to get. mobil 1 0w-40? or this amsoil 0w-30 ... or this schaeffer's xW-xx .... plus, u also gotta tell me where to get amsoil and schaeffer... i dont wanna get scammed.

u sir... are the best
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:31 PM   #182
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Amsoil ATM 10W-30, 2005 G35
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:20 AM   #183
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Thanks for posting, I'll add it to the comparison charts on page 1 of this sticky. Looks good. So much for Amsoil bashing other companies for using moly in their oils. I love those marketing guys.

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Old 09-08-2007, 12:42 PM   #184
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Resolute,

This thread is simply ama"Z"ing!!! Many many thanks! You are a gentleman and a scholar. This has to be the best sticky in any forum I've ever visit...

I am currently using Amsoil's 5W-30 And after reading this through the whole threads I am now considering switching to Perhaps Amsoil 0W-30 Or Mobil 1's 0W-40. My VQ35 D.E. Revved-Block is stock and I live in Florida. Please enlighten me with with your thoughts on this. Which one should I choose regardless of the price?

Thanks.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:35 PM   #185
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If you're not heavily tracking the car, then any of the oils on the recommended list will be a great choice. Between the M1 0W-40 and Amsoil 0W-30, it's your personal preference. There's very little to distinguish between them.

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Old 09-09-2007, 06:59 PM   #186
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If you're not heavily tracking the car, then any of the oils on the recommended list will be a great choice. Between the M1 0W-40 and Amsoil 0W-30, it's your personal preference. There's very little to distinguish between them.

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Great! I will try them both.

Cheers!
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:10 AM   #187
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In looking at the Amsoil European formula, it states it meets BMW LL-04. Is this the same as the BMW LL-01 or referring to a different standard such as low sulfate ash.
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:27 PM   #188
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Royal Purple 10w40 on my VQ35DE with 106,000 miles. Next UOA for this vehicle will be Valvoline 10w30 MaxLife high mileage oil
comments and second column were removed as the confused 2 of my vehicles

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Old 09-11-2007, 10:03 AM   #189
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You said they confused your vehicles, so was this on your TT Z? or do you have another VQ35DE vehicle that this sample is from?

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You said they confused your vehicles, so was this on your TT Z? or do you have another VQ35DE vehicle that this sample is from?

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another VQ35DE vehicle. Non-turbo/non-built block
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Good to know. That was going to be the most impressive TT oil sample I've ever seen from the VQ. The RP 10W-40 looks like the best formula from RP yet, only the copper looks high. Everything else seems within average. The iron is very low, too bad the lead isn't any lower for the mileage. Thanks for posting this, I'll add the results to the comparison chart on page 1.

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do you reccomend get a VOA along with the UOA? I still have some virgin Moutl 300v 5W40 that I can send along with my used oil sample.
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im using 0w40 mobile 1 and got no oil consumption in my revup v2 engine and i did some research and its one of there most researched oils . Loving the 0w40 in my revup Z resolute thanks for the analysis man. respect


to the OP in florida , use this oil very good results and remember to get there syn filter also.
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Just picked some Mobil M1 0w40 and M1-110 filter.
Question on the filter...the only M1-110 I could find was the Mobil 1 Extended Performance Filter. Is that the right one?
Thanks and nice write up...
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do you reccomend get a VOA along with the UOA? I still have some virgin Moutl 300v 5W40 that I can send along with my used oil sample.
Don't bother with the VOA. I've got a VOA of Motul 300V 5W-40 on file already. When you post your UOA, I'll post the VOA data for comparison if you want.

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Will,

I'm going to be trying out the Mobil 1 OEM weight when I get home Friday. Will send out the RP that is in there now. Let you know the results.
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In looking at the Amsoil European formula, it states it meets BMW LL-04. Is this the same as the BMW LL-01 or referring to a different standard such as low sulfate ash.
It's not the same, but I don't know the exact changes. Some message boards have posted about this, but I haven't seen anything concrete from BMW, and I don't take message board rumor as facts. So.. I don't know for sure what the difference between LL04 and LL01 are.

My guess would be that BMW made a similar change as MB in updating their specs for compliance with stricter emissions controls. Lowering ash content would certainly fall into that catagory. The MB 229.51 upgrade also reflects this, along with maintaining extended drain performance. I don't buy the whole "newer is better" theory on regulation changes. As an example, the API SL certified oils contain much more anti-wear additives than the newer SM oils, because the SM change was a new regulation against older AW/FM additives that can harm catalytic converters. I prefer the older SL oils myself, since converter life is not as important to me as engine protection on the track. So, I would not worry about oils that don't meet the newer LL-04 BMW spec, just like I don't care if an oil meets MB's newest 229.51 specs. It's not necessarily a change towards better performance that creates the need for a new spec.

FYI, none of Amsoil's oils are on the official approval list for BMW. Amsoil claims to meet or exceed these specs, but is not actually certified for use in those vehicles. It's another way in which I find their advertising to be crooked, along with the claims half their dealers make. But, it is good oil and I don't doubt their products would meet the certification if they shelled out the big bucks for manufacturer testing to meet those OEM approvals. The 5W-40 is on the MB 229.5 approval list, though.

If you were looking for an oil to meet the newer MB 229.51 and BMW LL04 specs, then there are several out there. But they are hard to find. Mobil1 has a 5W-30 and 5W-40 labeled as "ESP formula". Valvoline Synpower MST 5W-30 is another.

Personally, I look for an oil that meets these three certifications: BMW LL01, Porsche, and MB AMG. This is not to say that an oil that meets all of these is going to be the best oil in the world, but it is a good place to start if you're looking for a new oil to try that doesn't have a UOA from the VQ yet. If the oil meets API SL, then it's even better, IMO. Examples of this that I have yet to try are Valvoline 5W-40, Pennzoil Platinum/Q Horsepower/Q Advanced European Formula 5W-40 (these are all the same rebadged Shell Helix Ultra oil), and Castrol Syntec 5W-40.

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Will,

I'm going to be trying out the Mobil 1 OEM weight when I get home Friday. Will send out the RP that is in there now. Let you know the results.
What weight RP will is it, and how many miles did you actually get on it? I would save the money and not bother with a UOA if I were you. That car sat for so long without being warmed up and driven far, that the moisture that invariably built up will cause adverse readings. Unless you're just curious, but it's not going to be very indicative of what most people would get, so I won't bother putting it in the comparison chart if you post the UOA.

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Thanks for the info on Amsoil European formula (and BMW-04) meeting or not meeting the new MB, BWM, VW and Porsche specs.
Their literature says they meet these and others in their European formula ads.
I realize that they may but just not be on the manufactures' approved list.
I appreciate your candor and taking the time to answer my questions.
They have a good product in their TSO and most likely their European formula but wish they would not state things that could be seen as false advertising. Meeting the specs is different then being approved by the companies. However, in re-reading the information it just says it meets the specs and does not say it is approved by any of the companies.
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Truth in advertising is out the window.
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