2+2 Backseat Project- Lookin for advice
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I would say it is ok to drive. It obviously helps with the rigidity and body flex but I dont think to the extent you should worry about normal driving at all.
With the roll bar you want or a seatbelt harness bar I am sure you would regain any lost support.
With the roll bar you want or a seatbelt harness bar I am sure you would regain any lost support.
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i just cut out that same area for my cage, that metal is so thin and flimsy im sure there would be little to zero difference in rigidity. i never drove mine without it and still havent finished the cage so i cant confirm nor deny this.
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Thanks for the support guys. Kinda expected a bit of verbal lashin. (I love this form)
A side impact would prolly get nasty if I don't do anything, to add I can't stand for it being sloppy, I do drive quite aggressively for the street (never tracked) and I will have to argue with anyone that I says I screwed my car up, I have to come up with something. Definitely a set of under body braces with time.
We will see if I get it out of the garage, before I buy more parts
A side impact would prolly get nasty if I don't do anything, to add I can't stand for it being sloppy, I do drive quite aggressively for the street (never tracked) and I will have to argue with anyone that I says I screwed my car up, I have to come up with something. Definitely a set of under body braces with time.
We will see if I get it out of the garage, before I buy more parts
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I'm very interested to see how this will end up. If the G35 seats fit in nicely, I might consider doing this myself to secure some useful storage space.
BTW, I think you can fab up a floor brace and it will more than make up for the rigidity that is lost by removing those metal penals, if there is any loss to begin with.
BTW, I think you can fab up a floor brace and it will more than make up for the rigidity that is lost by removing those metal penals, if there is any loss to begin with.
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Sorry but it's not done yet. of course it's taking me twice as long as I initially thought. a lot of hold ups but still workin on it. still havent moved it out of the garage though
stitched up a bunch of interior parts in red suede and black leather, only to completely hate the color scheme (good practice at least). so the red and black is out the door. going for black leather and grey alcantara now.
Getting ready to order my support... OPINIONS PLEASE!!!!
Would you go with a harness bar or roll bar for the project?
I really like the autopower race bar with removable cross-brace and harness bar. $500+$85 to make it removable + shipping (4 week turn around!!) the autopower street bar with no harness or cross-brace bars ($400)
or just Harness bar. cheaper option, obviously less support, semi-permanent, not bad height placement but still kinda in the way for trying to get my dog in and out.
worried the harness bar won't give me the support I want back. but I don't want to spend a bunch of money on the roll cage and just add a bunch of weight
stitched up a bunch of interior parts in red suede and black leather, only to completely hate the color scheme (good practice at least). so the red and black is out the door. going for black leather and grey alcantara now.
Getting ready to order my support... OPINIONS PLEASE!!!!
Would you go with a harness bar or roll bar for the project?
I really like the autopower race bar with removable cross-brace and harness bar. $500+$85 to make it removable + shipping (4 week turn around!!) the autopower street bar with no harness or cross-brace bars ($400)
or just Harness bar. cheaper option, obviously less support, semi-permanent, not bad height placement but still kinda in the way for trying to get my dog in and out.
worried the harness bar won't give me the support I want back. but I don't want to spend a bunch of money on the roll cage and just add a bunch of weight
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Sorry but it's not done yet. of course it's taking me twice as long as I initially thought. a lot of hold ups but still workin on it. still havent moved it out of the garage though
stitched up a bunch of interior parts in red suede and black leather, only to completely hate the color scheme (good practice at least). so the red and black is out the door. going for black leather and grey alcantara now.
Getting ready to order my support... OPINIONS PLEASE!!!!
Would you go with a harness bar or roll bar for the project?
I really like the autopower race bar with removable cross-brace and harness bar. $500+$85 to make it removable + shipping (4 week turn around!!) the autopower street bar with no harness or cross-brace bars ($400)
or just Harness bar. cheaper option, obviously less support, semi-permanent, not bad height placement but still kinda in the way for trying to get my dog in and out.
worried the harness bar won't give me the support I want back. but I don't want to spend a bunch of money on the roll cage and just add a bunch of weight
stitched up a bunch of interior parts in red suede and black leather, only to completely hate the color scheme (good practice at least). so the red and black is out the door. going for black leather and grey alcantara now.
Getting ready to order my support... OPINIONS PLEASE!!!!
Would you go with a harness bar or roll bar for the project?
I really like the autopower race bar with removable cross-brace and harness bar. $500+$85 to make it removable + shipping (4 week turn around!!) the autopower street bar with no harness or cross-brace bars ($400)
or just Harness bar. cheaper option, obviously less support, semi-permanent, not bad height placement but still kinda in the way for trying to get my dog in and out.
worried the harness bar won't give me the support I want back. but I don't want to spend a bunch of money on the roll cage and just add a bunch of weight
me personally if I was in your situation I would save the money and just do a harness bar or nothing.
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Sorry but it's not done yet. of course it's taking me twice as long as I initially thought. a lot of hold ups but still workin on it. still havent moved it out of the garage though
stitched up a bunch of interior parts in red suede and black leather, only to completely hate the color scheme (good practice at least). so the red and black is out the door. going for black leather and grey alcantara now.
Getting ready to order my support... OPINIONS PLEASE!!!!
Would you go with a harness bar or roll bar for the project?
I really like the autopower race bar with removable cross-brace and harness bar. $500+$85 to make it removable + shipping (4 week turn around!!) the autopower street bar with no harness or cross-brace bars ($400)
or just Harness bar. cheaper option, obviously less support, semi-permanent, not bad height placement but still kinda in the way for trying to get my dog in and out.
worried the harness bar won't give me the support I want back. but I don't want to spend a bunch of money on the roll cage and just add a bunch of weight
stitched up a bunch of interior parts in red suede and black leather, only to completely hate the color scheme (good practice at least). so the red and black is out the door. going for black leather and grey alcantara now.
Getting ready to order my support... OPINIONS PLEASE!!!!
Would you go with a harness bar or roll bar for the project?
I really like the autopower race bar with removable cross-brace and harness bar. $500+$85 to make it removable + shipping (4 week turn around!!) the autopower street bar with no harness or cross-brace bars ($400)
or just Harness bar. cheaper option, obviously less support, semi-permanent, not bad height placement but still kinda in the way for trying to get my dog in and out.
worried the harness bar won't give me the support I want back. but I don't want to spend a bunch of money on the roll cage and just add a bunch of weight
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i thought the whole reason was to get room for your dogs.
roll bar/harness bar will impede them from getting in and out of the back seat area smoothly even if it was a bolt in... the main hoop diagonal bar will go from driver rear head are down to behind the passenger seat area, the main location for ingress/egress out of the rear seat behind the passenger..
no full cage unless you pad the heck out of every single bar that you or your dogs may encounter while driving. ie. you stop short and your dogs go flying into a bar. not fun for you. even worse for your best friend.
roll bar/harness bar will impede them from getting in and out of the back seat area smoothly even if it was a bolt in... the main hoop diagonal bar will go from driver rear head are down to behind the passenger seat area, the main location for ingress/egress out of the rear seat behind the passenger..
no full cage unless you pad the heck out of every single bar that you or your dogs may encounter while driving. ie. you stop short and your dogs go flying into a bar. not fun for you. even worse for your best friend.
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my idea was that when driving daily to work I wouldn't have the harness or cross bar in, and just the main hoop and braces to the strut (no obstructions)
yes IDEALLY I really wouldn't do anything, just put my seat, speakers and panels in and call it a 2+2. that would be perfect no sacrifice for space and wouldn't cost me anything, but.....
I'M BEING A PUSS. I'm afraid I slightly fouled with the structure and it would be IRRESPONSIBLE not to build anything back. I don't think nissan ever meant for that to come out. or expected anyone trying to drill it out. Although the g35 is nearly identical from inside (maybe even weaker cause it's 6inch longer), there's still a trunk and not a full hatch plus whatever we don't see that they designed into the structure. grrrrr just dont know what to do
I don't think it had that much effect in removing it but I don't want to be the one with egg on my face. maybe I'll let someone else be the first to ride around with nothing
why cant I just have a black and white answer. guess that custom
yes IDEALLY I really wouldn't do anything, just put my seat, speakers and panels in and call it a 2+2. that would be perfect no sacrifice for space and wouldn't cost me anything, but.....
I'M BEING A PUSS. I'm afraid I slightly fouled with the structure and it would be IRRESPONSIBLE not to build anything back. I don't think nissan ever meant for that to come out. or expected anyone trying to drill it out. Although the g35 is nearly identical from inside (maybe even weaker cause it's 6inch longer), there's still a trunk and not a full hatch plus whatever we don't see that they designed into the structure. grrrrr just dont know what to do
I don't think it had that much effect in removing it but I don't want to be the one with egg on my face. maybe I'll let someone else be the first to ride around with nothing
why cant I just have a black and white answer. guess that custom
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took it out of the garage for the first time in 5 weeks.
I'll say I was MORE than nervous, not having put any support back, but my car didn't break or bend in half. I didn't notice being any weaker or sloppy but I kinda drove it like a girl so. We'll see how it does on the way home, I'll give it a lil more
I'll say I was MORE than nervous, not having put any support back, but my car didn't break or bend in half. I didn't notice being any weaker or sloppy but I kinda drove it like a girl so. We'll see how it does on the way home, I'll give it a lil more
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took it out of the garage for the first time in 5 weeks.
I'll say I was MORE than nervous, not having put any support back, but my car didn't break or bend in half. I didn't notice being any weaker or sloppy but I kinda drove it like a girl so. We'll see how it does on the way home, I'll give it a lil more
I'll say I was MORE than nervous, not having put any support back, but my car didn't break or bend in half. I didn't notice being any weaker or sloppy but I kinda drove it like a girl so. We'll see how it does on the way home, I'll give it a lil more