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Old 05-11-2005, 11:51 AM
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I know this will start something, but doesn't everything:

I actually got to run a silverstone Z vortech, borla TD, 275 (18") rear with the 9 pound pulley from a stop, it wasn't even close (the stillen low end torque!) - from a roll we were pretty even but it depended on how he was shifting, if he got the RPM's up he took me. We split 4 runs from a roll.
Old 05-11-2005, 11:55 AM
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Sweet..

Does the turbonetics kit have its own exhaust manifolds? What all mods could I get that would still work with the kit? Anything I have to buy after I get the kit?

ravi
Old 05-11-2005, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Dreams
**** Ya! This thing pulls hard.
ZO6

You think you could take a Z06? From a stop, roll, or all the way around?!! Do you have any 0-60 or 1/4 or 1/8 times? I would love to see those!
Old 05-11-2005, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamDC
BTW 1 pound of boost is a big deal, it's usually about 20 hp for each pound. For example, if you are getting 320 at 6 psi, you should get 340 at 7 and 360 at 8 psi. Now this is not a golden rule for every kit, they are all different, but it does apply.

For a lot of the people exclaiming their dissapointment with 340hp at the wheels, I would like to ask if they have ever driven anything that got 340 at the wheels. That is a lot of power, more than you will use in most day to day situations (or any situation). For me finding any place (while staying safe) where I can push the car is difficult, even if its just a quick run to 80 on the on ramp.

I have driven something with 340 whp or more. And it is alot of power, but when you go to buy a product that says it has been dynoed by them at 386 and then you see 2 others that are 20-40 whp less it makes you scratch your head a little bit. Does it not? And for the record I never said it wasnt good enough or I was disappointed just curious and concerned and was wondering how much alttitude had effected the whp and boost. I am not trying to bash T-netics at all, I cant wait to get my kit. Its just when you pay $4600 and up for a kit that says it will do this and it turns out it actually does less you would want an explanation, thats all.
Old 05-11-2005, 12:46 PM
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SpeedDreams, how about you make some vids of your car? I would love to see/hear it!
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
Sweet..

Does the turbonetics kit have its own exhaust manifolds? What all mods could I get that would still work with the kit? Anything I have to buy after I get the kit?

ravi
Eh? You should take a look at MIA threads (like his first one on this subject), there is no new exhaust manifolds like some TT kits. You still use the stock ones.
Old 05-11-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1 2 NV
I have driven something with 340 whp or more. And it is alot of power, but when you go to buy a product that says it has been dynoed by them at 386 and then you see 2 others that are 20-40 whp less it makes you scratch your head a little bit. Does it not? And for the record I never said it wasnt good enough or I was disappointed just curious and concerned and was wondering how much alttitude had effected the whp and boost. I am not trying to bash T-netics at all, I cant wait to get my kit. Its just when you pay $4600 and up for a kit that says it will do this and it turns out it actually does less you would want an explanation, thats all.
I agree. And thats why I replied regarding altitiude and boost. Although I can't reveal my last dyno numbers (will have some more this Friday) it was a bit more then they pulled. I have to say that something is affecting their power output. I would still like to know how much boost they are seeing at WOT in 4 and 5 gear. In an earlier post they said it was 6-7. Mine is more like 8-8.5
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Originally Posted by GQ 350z
Sweet..

Does the turbonetics kit have its own exhaust manifolds? What all mods could I get that would still work with the kit? Anything I have to buy after I get the kit?

ravi
No the kit uses the stock manifolds. They are made of SS409 double wall steel. Chances of them carcking...Slim to none. As for what mods...Exhaust as long as it is a y pipe back exhaust would help. Clutch, flywheel, cams, the usual suspects. The only limitation is that the exhaust either must begin life as a y pipe back or be made into a y pipe back. As for other stuff to get..I highly recommend the following gauges: boost, Wideband AF, Fuel Pressure, Oil Temp
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Tripp....Glad you finally got it tweeked out. Can't wait to see it. Hope all is well brotha! Jason

BTW....Tripp has a 911 and 2 M3's......but he would rather drive a Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 05-11-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gspot35
I agree with Adam here on the S/C vs. TT/ST thing. Remember it's that brutish low-end torque that's snapping our rods!
Hmm, maybe more to it than that. To my knowledge, the Stillen SC has not blown a motor yet but has much greater low-end torque than other SC available for the 350Z yet they have had some engine failures.
Old 05-11-2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Barzten1
Tripp....Glad you finally got it tweeked out. Can't wait to see it. Hope all is well brotha! Jason

BTW....Tripp has a 911 and 2 M3's......but he would rather drive a Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're still at it Jason, just put a larger washer in the waste gate. We want to see what power we can make at 8lbs boost.
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Originally Posted by zland
Hmm, maybe more to it than that. To my knowledge, the Stillen SC has not blown a motor yet but has much greater low-end torque than other SC available for the 350Z yet they have had some engine failures.
Good Point!!
Old 05-11-2005, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1 2 NV
You think you could take a Z06? From a stop, roll, or all the way around?!! Do you have any 0-60 or 1/4 or 1/8 times? I would love to see those!
NOW we can! New #'S....382.9 WHP, 375.2 TQ, SAE corrected, @ 8.5lbs boost 11.0 A/F.
Will scan and post dyno graph this evening.
Old 05-11-2005, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Thats funny cause I have seen it happen for other high altitude cars on boost. They usually get less boost then others when run without a boost controller... Maybe I'm wrong...

no, you are totally correct

altitude will affect boost, but not by much, we have consistantly seen fI cars here produce at least one pound less psi than the rated value at sea level, this of course is referring to the net effect on cylinder pressure...when dealing with less dense air from the beginning, when it is compressed and fed into the cylinder, it will be of a lower net psi pressure...so, at this altitude, running a boost controller with another 1-2psi, will create a similar cylinder pressure as to what would be had at sea level..

this was discussed thoroughly, several times on this forum in the past, corky bell touches on it briefly in his book, but, more importantly, a physics 101 class would bring most of this to light.
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Originally Posted by Speed Dreams
NOW we can! New #'S....382.9 WHP, 375.2 TQ, SAE corrected, @ 8.5lbs boost 11.0 A/F.
Will scan and post dyno graph this evening.

Now thats some great #s. Good job Tripp. I hope you can make it to our meet in June at Elliotts. I would love to take a ride with you. BEN
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Originally Posted by bstansbu
Now thats some great #s. Good job Tripp. I hope you can make it to our meet in June at Elliotts. I would love to take a ride with you. BEN
me too, i want a ride
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Originally Posted by Speed Dreams
NOW we can! New #'S....382.9 WHP, 375.2 TQ, SAE corrected, @ 8.5lbs boost 11.0 A/F.
Will scan and post dyno graph this evening.
That's more like it! I plan on running 8.5 PSI when my kit comes, as well.
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Excellent work guys! BTW thanks all in this thread that helped me out.

ravi
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wrong post.

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