TURBONECTICS KIT blows my vq@8psI
03-08-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
Miaplaya-
What kind of power should he be able to make with the Turbonetics kit on a built motor(with appropriate engine mgt.)?
Bruce
What kind of power should he be able to make with the Turbonetics kit on a built motor(with appropriate engine mgt.)?
Bruce
03-08-2006, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chimmike
once again I'll say:
motors don't throw rods for no reason.
if anything, from the power, your pistons would have been the first casualties.
I think you missed an oil change somewhere, or ran low on oil, and that starvation caused you to throw the rods. Other than that, it doesn't just decide to throw a rod when you're driving normally if you didn't screw anything up.
longevity isn't the argument here. I could go on all day on how you can treat a motor right, boost it, still maintain it properly, and not have one issue with it. Issues come up when normal maintenance is ignored.
motors don't throw rods for no reason.
if anything, from the power, your pistons would have been the first casualties.
I think you missed an oil change somewhere, or ran low on oil, and that starvation caused you to throw the rods. Other than that, it doesn't just decide to throw a rod when you're driving normally if you didn't screw anything up.
longevity isn't the argument here. I could go on all day on how you can treat a motor right, boost it, still maintain it properly, and not have one issue with it. Issues come up when normal maintenance is ignored.
03-08-2006, 09:47 AM
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if you know so much, why are you letting him charge you like this ?
If you knew so much, you'd know you can buy 2 nismo FPRs from almost anyone for like $210.
Just an example.
You changed your oil TWICE a MONTH??
Nismo Fuel regurater US$270.00
Just an example.
You changed your oil TWICE a MONTH??
03-08-2006, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
The turbo in the kit should flow out to low 500s easily...
03-08-2006, 09:56 AM
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Ive benn on stock internals for so long now, i think its a dream. Personally i think your kit was installed wrong, who did it, and are they doing your rebuild??
03-08-2006, 10:48 AM
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Whatever the case, good luck with the rebuild. I'll be going the T-netics route also (stage 1.5... when's it coming MIA?!) and eventually doing internals. Let us know how it goes.
P.S. That guy is RAPING YOU on those prices man! Shop around.
P.S. That guy is RAPING YOU on those prices man! Shop around.
03-08-2006, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLeader
Miaplaya-
What kind of power should he be able to make with the Turbonetics kit on a built motor(with appropriate engine mgt.)?
Bruce
What kind of power should he be able to make with the Turbonetics kit on a built motor(with appropriate engine mgt.)?
Bruce
03-08-2006, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
Saying you won't have issues may not be realistic, but with a great tune you are less likely to have issues. Everyone has their thoughts on a reflash vs a custom tuned tunable EMS and I would think the consensus would be in favor of running a custom tune via tunable EMS over a somewhat generic reflash.
03-08-2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT-Z33
Short Block assy 1 4595.73
Metal Head gasket 1 main Bearings 4
F-tune CP Forged piston kit 6
F-tune Calliro Connectingrods 6
ARP stud Head 1
ARP stud Main
Metal Head gasket 1 US$234.00
Highlift camshaft intake 66 1 US$832.00
Reimax Highlift camshaft exhaust 64 US$832.00
Nismo main Bearings 4 US$341.25
Nismo connectingrod bearings US$273.78
Nismo lowtemp thermo 1 US$132.30
Nismo Racing plug 6 US$317.52
Nismo Fuel regurater US$270.00
Oil cooler 1 US$900.00
Genuine parts 1 US$500.00
Engine oil 1 US$50.00
Short parts 1 US$60.oo
bore & hone cylinder block with TP 1 US$578.00
dynamic balance crankshaft 1 US$135.00
polish journal 1 US$200.00
surface cylinder head and lap 1 US$160.00
Engine install 1 US$1,000.00
Dyno test & setting 1 US$1,000.00
Oil cooler install 1 US$600.00
engine overhaul 1 US$2,000.00
porting
Metal Head gasket 1 main Bearings 4
F-tune CP Forged piston kit 6
F-tune Calliro Connectingrods 6
ARP stud Head 1
ARP stud Main
Metal Head gasket 1 US$234.00
Highlift camshaft intake 66 1 US$832.00
Reimax Highlift camshaft exhaust 64 US$832.00
Nismo main Bearings 4 US$341.25
Nismo connectingrod bearings US$273.78
Nismo lowtemp thermo 1 US$132.30
Nismo Racing plug 6 US$317.52
Nismo Fuel regurater US$270.00
Oil cooler 1 US$900.00
Genuine parts 1 US$500.00
Engine oil 1 US$50.00
Short parts 1 US$60.oo
bore & hone cylinder block with TP 1 US$578.00
dynamic balance crankshaft 1 US$135.00
polish journal 1 US$200.00
surface cylinder head and lap 1 US$160.00
Engine install 1 US$1,000.00
Dyno test & setting 1 US$1,000.00
Oil cooler install 1 US$600.00
engine overhaul 1 US$2,000.00
porting
http://store.yahoo.com/sgpracing-store/sgpravqmo.html
Basic short block: $3000 + $2200 core - Good up to 550 Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
Eagle rods
ARP Rod Studs
New Rod and Main bearings
Wiseco Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
Upgraded Shortblock: $3900 + $2200 core - Good up to 650 Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/*ceramic coating
*Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
*CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
Ultimate short block: $7800 + $2200 core - Good for 850+ Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate / Billet Dummy Head
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
*Darton MID Sleeves
*COMETIC Metal head Gaskets
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
*Custom : SGP Racing / CP Pistons Up to 98mm(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
*Ceramic coating on Piston skirts and tops
*ARP Main Studs
Basic Long Block: $4700 + $3500 core - Good up to 550 Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
Eagle rods
ARP Rod Studs
New bearing and rings
Wiseco Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals
Upgraded Long Block #1: $6900 + $3500 Core - Good up to 650 Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/*ceramic coating
Eagle rods
ARP Rod Bolts
Wiseco Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
*JWT Upgraded Cams
*JWT HD Valve Springs
*5 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals
Upgraded Long Block #2: $6700 + $3500 Core - Good up to 750 Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
*Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
*CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
*ARP Main Studs
*ARP Head Studs
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
5 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals
Upgraded Long Block #3: $8300 + $3500 Core - Good up to 750 Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
CP Pistons .020 over(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
*Ceramic coating on Piston skirts and tops
ARP Main Studs
ARP Head Studs
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
*JWT Upgraded Cams
*JWT HD Valve Springs
5 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Head gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals
Ultimate Long Block: $11,500 + $3500 Core - Good to 850+ Rwhp
Block oil passages cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate / Billet Head
Crank balanced
Crank journals polished
*Darton MID Sleeves
*COMETIC Metal Head gaskets
New Main and Rod bearings w/ceramic coating
Pauter Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
* Custom SGP Racing / CP Pistons Up to 98mm Bore(8.5:1 or 11.5:1)
Ceramic coating on Piston skirts and tops
ARP Main Studs
ARP Head Studs
Heads oil passages cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
*Tomei Upgraded Cams
*Ferrera 1mm Over Valve Train
5 angle valve job
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set
New Valve stem seals
New Nissan Valve Seats
New Nissan Head gaskets / Big Bore COMETIC Metal Gaskets
New Nissan Oil Pump
New Nissan Cam seals
03-08-2006, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
Obviously a poor tune
Last edited by Gman2004; 03-08-2006 at 03:58 PM.
03-08-2006, 03:59 PM
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Dude you're a dumb ****. Drive your car from MN and it's 43 degree wheather into Miami's 90 degree wheather and see how your beloved Unichip handles your current tune. ***NEWS FLASH*** Hotter temps make your car run rich *** face. We are not talking about a 10 degree increase in my case.....it's was a 49 degrees in Houston and it's 90 degrees in Miami. That''s why my car is running like chit. It is so rich at certain loads it bogs. The EU does not compensate for temp changes and neither does the Unchip. If SGP poorly tuned cars they wouldn't be a "GOD ALL MIGHTY" APS authorized shop. you're such a tool.
thanks for the kind words. You obviously had an improper tune.
03-08-2006, 04:01 PM
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Wow I guess you better go cry to Peter and tell them that SGP does not know how to tune car. They should remove SGP as an APS authorized dealer immediately. Also I guess APS doesn't know how to tune cars either. I have read about APS owners going lean with the out of the box tune in colder wheather......obviously a poor tune. 
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03-08-2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
Wow I guess you better go cry to Peter and tell them that SGP does not know how to tune car. They should remove SGP as an APS authorized dealer immediately. Also I guess APS doesn't know how to tune cars either. I have read about APS owners going lean with the out of the box tune in colder wheather......obviously a poor tune.
A proper custom tune is preferred to a somewhat generic reflash or out of box tune