MRC, did you see my reply to your post? any ideas? was it you that said you had to shorten the forge rod?

 

I missed the last day of post... so to set the record straight. I am not a TN cronie. I had the APS ST (POS) kit and spent thousands of dollars trying to get it to run right and some of the best installers/tuners in the biz can't get it to hold boost. The problem with this post is companies like MRC spend a boat load of $$ to get the APS dealership and then must sell their services no matter how many lies and inflated dynos they come up with to achieve that ROI. Now the only exception I have seen is GRD. Those guys are great and if you dare buy this kit get them to install it.

 

So are you trying to say the reason APS has such crappy customer service and warranty replacement is because they can???? PLEASE. A product or service is only as good as the man/company that stands behind it. TN may have a few issues but not nearly as many as APS and they are proud to stand behind their product. You make me want to !

 

oh god, its a APS vs. TN holy war!!!

Can we please just agree to the fact that both kits produce power in their own respective methods? Cuz this subject will never end...there is nothing that either side can say that will baffle the other side....so quit trying...let's get back to the reason this thread was started in the first place...

 

and APS IS BETTER! lol, i'm jokin

 

No matter how many times this sh*t happens, it's still funny to read.

 

I beg to differ. But I guess my car wasn't built by a brand name shop.

 

Ok... great your kit holds boost? I REALLY couldn't be happier for you. I mean it! I just get tired of these shops that come on here and act like the APS kit is the best but only if you have it installed/tuned at their shop because they never have problems. Trust me I wish mine kit had lived up to my expectations!

 

No lies and inflated dynos here pal, his car made about 360whp on the APS single untuned...The car held boost, the way it should..All I trying to say is that your so called "TURD" may have needed an adjustment to something such as the wastegate or BOV, the fix is usually really simple...Everyone is swift to assume something major is wrong..
Tig, no doubt in my mind you issue is wastegate related, boost is escsaping from somewhere, somehow...

 

and we get tired of people that come on here and bash a product, that was incorrectly installed from either the owner or their friend, and blame it on the product being a "TURD" when 99% of the time it was the install that was a TURD... We have seen just as many TURDY installs of TN kits...

 

And yet you are quick to blame Turbonetics for "turd" installs but not APS.

 

i totally agree, but when i put the 15psi spring in and have it all tightened all the way down, not much else i can do. its gotta be a turbine backpressure issue not allowing the wg to close once its open. i got it to hold better lastnight, if you didnt see my last thread, now it makes 9 and holds almost 9, or if i go from a roll it makes 10 and drops to about 8.5. the external wg is coming soon. im getting an open dump, or cutout, installed along with an external wg and im having the wg dump into the cutout. gonna be cool, and LOUD.

 

No Im flat out saying TN kits are flawed , thats what Im saying..

 

Well thats your opinion I guess.

 

Hey Mia,

Imagine if you were a customer of this guy and had a problem with anything.... With all the double talk and lies... Damm glad I have my car at Forged!

 

Based on what he has stated he has seen first hand with the kit, I would call it a little more than an opinion.

 

His first hand opinion included the claim that aluminum pipes were chrome plated steel which is 100% false and anyone who has a kit can prove that. His claims included Turbonetics kits being built in Mexico which is 100% false unless California seceded from the Union and joined Mexico since I went to my last meeting. His claims are that the fuel system runs high fuel pressure which is clearly not the case. His claims include a stattement that the fuel system is maxed out at 360 WHP and the injectors are maxed at 7 PSI but somehow that can't be true since mine and clearly several other owners aren't at 100 till above 9 PSI. Based on all of these discrepencies with the real world why should anyone take that as more then his opinoin. Oh and lets not forget that I have yet to hear from an "engineering" stand point while the fuel system or oil pan spacer are issues. A degreed Mechanical Engineer designed both and I have now been told its engineering 101 why there are better options but have yet to hear from a degreed engineer's point of view why these two items do not meet the design parameters.

 

WOW!! I go away on business for a few days and it is an all out bash!! As the OP, my opinion is of course a tad bias, but as I stated in another thread; debating a product such as turbo kits, is like debating who is the best/your fav football team. Every one has a different one and can argue why they are the best and do it forever! I think the TN kit is great, it has a great following and people seem to be happy with it, for the most part. And that is the same with the APS kit, JWT, ETC. Some are happy, some aren't. Just like some LOVE the Z and others hate it. We all have opinions.

The bottom line, IMHO, 'MY' APS ST kit which was installed very nicely by MRC, (and trust me, I have had about 5 other installers look it over and they are VERY impressed. Not that I had it double checked, my brother in-law knows a bunch of them and has been showing the car off!) Is running like a champ. No boost drop, no leaks nothing but smooth power and lots of it. This is not to say that Japtrix, GRD, Forged, etc can't or hasn't installed one properly and/or got one running properly. I chose MRC because of there knowledge and expertise. Just like people trust Sharif because he is one of the best, so is MRC, once again MHO. they have installed and/or repaired numerous bad installs. So they have my complete trust and faith!

Each kit has there pro's and con's and every one has an opinion. Just my $.02 but I think if there is a boost drop issue and MRC hasn't had it, maybe everyone who has this issue should be asking how to fix it? And vise versa with any TN issues. If someone has a TN issue and knows the fix, share it. This is suppose to be a forum to learn and share and to make Z ownership a better experience.

This is all, once again, MHO....




Oh by the way APS is best!!!! J/K!!!!

 

thats the thing, there is no "FIX" if there was nobody would have the problem. just so happens everybody else does. how many aps singles have MRC installed and what % are holding boost?

 

beastie, I am not Mia but I am happy MRC customer and your post is insulting.