APS single TUrbo? yes or no
10-18-2006, 06:35 PM
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My stock 2003 VQ35DE with 380cc Power Enterprise injectors, FPR and Walboro pump upgrades handled 400 rwhp for 27000 miles with no major issues; except that I blew my head gasket 3 times. And, what I noted was all 3 times were after a gas fill up; coincidence !? The final gasket failure was at the pocono's race track and that was after wah wah gas.
With non oxygenated 93 octane gas and bolts capable of 95 + lbs torque, most of our stock internals should be pretty stable for street use @ 400 rwhp.
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With non oxygenated 93 octane gas and bolts capable of 95 + lbs torque, most of our stock internals should be pretty stable for street use @ 400 rwhp.
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10-18-2006, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianLG35C
APS in last 6 months, has making a point to not go over 360-380whp on a stock block with their TT kit.
10-18-2006, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
I have been following it from the beginning. Everything that needed to be said has been said, and then some
Yeah, no kidding... When I was writing my post, I was like 'I remember reading what I'm writing right now... Oh~ Zivman wrote something similar....' Hahaha~~~
10-18-2006, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianLG35C
***To me, in 2006, Peter strongly suggests not to go over 380whp. But not so back in 2005. But then again I haven't heard of anyone blowing their motor running 400whp or less on an APS TT with stock internals.
10-18-2006, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Not that I am obligated to explain anything to you, kid, but I happen to still be a fan of the Z, and would like to see how it evolves through aftermarket.
I myself, however, will achieve my goals through an LS2 car, which can make a whole of a lot more power then the Z bolt-on to bolt-on. Simple as that, I have a few other real financial commitments that simply cannot allow me to justify spending almost twice as much $$ to continue the Z project.
I myself, however, will achieve my goals through an LS2 car, which can make a whole of a lot more power then the Z bolt-on to bolt-on. Simple as that, I have a few other real financial commitments that simply cannot allow me to justify spending almost twice as much $$ to continue the Z project.
It appears that obviously you're at your wits end, but hey, I hope someday you finally move over to the domestic forums and annoy them with your constant bantering about how scared you are to put work into your car. And yes, we all surely will miss your trash talking of the 350z. 
Originally Posted by zivman
I have been following it from the beginning. Everything that needed to be said has been said, and then some
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taurran, im hurt by that statement.
10-19-2006, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
Whats funny is I don't even know if that 380whp is the same as GRD's 380whp(or any other dyno for that matter) since all dynos measure differently. I guess it would be better to say no more than 100 whp increase or something to that nature.
Who knows, I'm still mad at myself for letting GRD tune it to 442whp.
10-19-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
KID... this coming from a 28 year old. It appears that obviously you're at your wits end, but hey, I hope someday you finally move over to the domestic forums and annoy them with your constant bantering about how scared you are to put work into your car. And yes, we all surely will miss your trash talking of the 350z.
It appears that obviously you're at your wits end, but hey, I hope someday you finally move over to the domestic forums and annoy them with your constant bantering about how scared you are to put work into your car. And yes, we all surely will miss your trash talking of the 350z. 
Well, here is an advise from someone old and wise: how about you use that awesome acquired knowledge and put me on your ignore list so you would not have to be as annoyed as you are now.
Just one final question though, you've been relpying to me referring to yourself as "we" and not "I". I am assuming that you are only referring to yourself, since noone is backing you up on that. Do you have a bit of the old Gollum syndrome going on? Do you call your Z "precious" too?
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10-19-2006, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
OK, fine whatever, you win this argument. Obviously buying an economy FI kit and paying someone to install it makes you an ultimate authority on cars.
Well, here is an advise from someone old and wise: how about you use that awesome acquired knowledge and put me on your ignore list so you would not have to be as annoyed as you are now.
Just one final question though, you've been relpying to me referring to yourself as "we" and not "I". I am assuming that you are only referring to yourself, since noone is backing you up on that. Do you have a bit of the old Gollum syndrome going on? Do you call your Z "precious" too?
Well, here is an advise from someone old and wise: how about you use that awesome acquired knowledge and put me on your ignore list so you would not have to be as annoyed as you are now.
Just one final question though, you've been relpying to me referring to yourself as "we" and not "I". I am assuming that you are only referring to yourself, since noone is backing you up on that. Do you have a bit of the old Gollum syndrome going on? Do you call your Z "precious" too?
10-19-2006, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
See, now this is a good post. Made following this BS thread worthwhile
This is fun.
This taurran guy takes everything so personally...
I really like it when when he begins to critisize the APS TT for "antiquated" EMS and "quasi" FRS, but since TN ST "still produces a healthy amount of torque" it's OK to have even more primitive fuel/EMS solutions. Talk about bias/self-contradiction.
But my personal favorite is when the TN camp starts to use the 1.5 and 2.0 upgrades as arguments. These systems are perfect. They did not blow any motors, they never had any problems, etc. Why?
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OUT YET!!!!!!!!!
People should be disallowed to use these to support their arguments until they are out, and we know the price...
Just my opinion.
10-19-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
This is fun.
This taurran guy takes everything so personally...
I really like it when when he begins to critisize the APS TT for "antiquated" EMS and "quasi" FRS, but since TN ST "still produces a healthy amount of torque" it's OK to have even more primitive fuel/EMS solutions. Talk about bias/self-contradiction.
This taurran guy takes everything so personally...
I really like it when when he begins to critisize the APS TT for "antiquated" EMS and "quasi" FRS, but since TN ST "still produces a healthy amount of torque" it's OK to have even more primitive fuel/EMS solutions. Talk about bias/self-contradiction.
The reason why people don't respond to these threads is they want no part of it, and by most it has been deemed a complete and utter waste of time. Especially when arguing with someone like yourself, who obviously has no understanding of the subject other than what he was told on these forums. It's already been established that arguing with you is a complete waste of time, as apprent in your previous threads. You've wasted hundreds of hours of people's time in these discussions only to not have the ***** to boost your motor, and then trash talk the Z on multiple occasions because you deem it inferior to and less reliable than other cars like a LS1 swapped FD (which you stated would have no issues whatsoever).
First off, quit twisting the meaning of my statement out of context, and go back and attempt to actually comprehend it (this IS how you form all of your arguments). It was stated in relation to this whole "completeness" issue that was started by the APS marketing machine and fans such as yourself. It was stated that the APS system is totally "complete", when in fact it contains, and you pay for, an archaic form of engine management, and a quasi "complete" fuel return system. There is no refutable evedence to prove me wrong. Say otherwise to those who have blown their motor on this kit or are just looking for more power. Ask them how complete it is.
Keep in mind that at no time in that statement did I compare it to the Turbonetics kit in any way. YOU were the one that build that comparison in your own thick head and decided to throw it back at me. In fact, both kits are known to accomplish their goals (with the turbonetics kit aimed at more moderate power output). Both kits also have tuner versions which allow buyers to bypass all issues with the "completeness" of each kit. If you want both kits to truly be "complete", then get the tuner version and build your own, nuff said.
It's common knowledge that none of the kits on the market now blow motors. I've said time and time again that each kit works well for its intended purpose, and none is perfect (bias my a**). Many blown motors are biproducts by pushing a kit past its intended horsepower and boost levels, incorrect installation, and incorrect upkeep. HOWEVER, the vast majority of them blow just to variations in the factory build and power levels that are run.
If you don't want to run the risk of blowing your stock motor, turn down the boost. It's as simple as that. Torque cannot snap connecting rods if it is not present. Then again, this may be beyond your simplistic reasoning.
Originally Posted by Oleg
But my personal favorite is when the TN camp starts to use the 1.5 and 2.0 upgrades as arguments. These systems are perfect. They did not blow any motors, they never had any problems, etc. Why?
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OUT YET!!!!!!!!!
People should be disallowed to use these to support their arguments until they are out, and we know the price...
Just my opinion.
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OUT YET!!!!!!!!!
People should be disallowed to use these to support their arguments until they are out, and we know the price...
Just my opinion.
Your ***-backwards reasoning seems to base a kits worth on how many motors have been blown on it rather than the actual reason WHY they blew in each occurance. Perhaps this reasoning is why you never had the ***** to boost your Z.
In the end, your opinion has wasted more [of my] time than its worth. I think you've passed your word quota for the day, so give it a rest.
Last edited by taurran; 10-19-2006 at 02:58 PM.
10-19-2006, 02:59 PM
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Some times it is more fun to just read the post rather then jump into a heated debate. All main points of view seem to be covered so I will continue to watch you guys tear each other apart....
10-19-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Listen, KID. (remember when you first started name-calling? I take this personal?)
BLAH.... BLAH... BLAH...
...so give it a rest.
BLAH.... BLAH... BLAH...
...so give it a rest.
Then why so combative? Come on, it's just internet...
10-19-2006, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zland
Some times it is more fun to just read the post rather then jump into a heated debate. All main points of view seem to be covered so I will continue to watch you guys tear each other apart....
I personally don't know why I let myself get sucked into these stupid debates (yeah, its one of my many flaws). Neither side ever wins and it is always just the same garbage regurgitated over and over. That, and some people just refuse to let an issue rest by beating the same dead horse over and over. Shame on me for even getting involved and putting myself in the position to have to defend my statements to certain dense individuals.
Maybe we should just see about merging them into one giant thread and putting in it's own forum labeled "Got too much time on your hands?".
10-19-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zland
Some times it is more fun to just read the post rather then jump into a heated debate. All main points of view seem to be covered so I will continue to watch you guys tear each other apart....
Now, what's taurran's excuse?
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10-19-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
You know, this is the funny part, I am at work (I work the 4-12 shift in a hospital). I may have too much free time on my hands, but I get nicely compensated for every second of it. If I would be off today, the last thing I would be doing is arguing online.
Now, what's taurran's excuse?
Now, what's taurran's excuse?
10-19-2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
You've wasted hundreds of hours of people's time in these discussions only to not have the ***** to boost your motor, and then trash talk the Z on multiple occasions because you deem it inferior to and less reliable than other cars like a LS1 swapped FD (which you stated would have no issues whatsoever).