Turbonetics Turbo Seal Leaking AGAIN !!!! (3rd Turbo)
11-09-2006, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zcoco
the accelerated oil compsumption use with Amsoil is normal when you put
Amsoil inside an engine that has burnt crude oil on the sum of it's parts.
it normally takes a full 2 years to clean out a engine that used conventional oil previous to Amsoil, especially one that used dino oil for longer than 50,000 miles.
The initial fill and first 10,000 miles with Amsoil will clean the engine but will consume 2x the amount it did before, but in most cases not more than a gallon has to be used to clean the engine and have less oil compsumption
than with conventional crude oil.
Did you use the Amsoil engine cleaner previous to adding Amsoil?
it will help the cleaning process move along much faster than not using it.
Add cleaner, new oil filter, use the oil you have before the change, 20 minutes at high idle, Dump oil/filter. after that you add Amsoil and new filter, with this procedure most engines are clean after the first 25,000 miles using Amsoil.
my Yamaha 3.0 uses 1 QT oil every 12,000 miles, been using Amsoil from 70,000 /128,000 3 oil changes with 5w30 I just added my last quart left from the 5 gallons I bought 3 years ago
Amsoil inside an engine that has burnt crude oil on the sum of it's parts.
it normally takes a full 2 years to clean out a engine that used conventional oil previous to Amsoil, especially one that used dino oil for longer than 50,000 miles.
The initial fill and first 10,000 miles with Amsoil will clean the engine but will consume 2x the amount it did before, but in most cases not more than a gallon has to be used to clean the engine and have less oil compsumption
than with conventional crude oil.
Did you use the Amsoil engine cleaner previous to adding Amsoil?
it will help the cleaning process move along much faster than not using it.
Add cleaner, new oil filter, use the oil you have before the change, 20 minutes at high idle, Dump oil/filter. after that you add Amsoil and new filter, with this procedure most engines are clean after the first 25,000 miles using Amsoil.
my Yamaha 3.0 uses 1 QT oil every 12,000 miles, been using Amsoil from 70,000 /128,000 3 oil changes with 5w30 I just added my last quart left from the 5 gallons I bought 3 years ago
11-09-2006, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whip24lash
Hey just curious, Jet you keep mentioning that the smoke is white. I always remebered burnt oil being blue. Obviously you're problem is the seal since you've visually seen it but I was just wondering about it being white? If I remember correctly-
white=water
blue=oil
black=fuel
I don't know **** about mechanics so I may be way off with my thinking. Anyways, good luck in your future ventures. I blew 2 engines, 3 sets up turbos, 3 clutches, new set of heads and a few other things on my 90tt(no fault of my own). I feel your pain.
white=water
blue=oil
black=fuel
I don't know **** about mechanics so I may be way off with my thinking. Anyways, good luck in your future ventures. I blew 2 engines, 3 sets up turbos, 3 clutches, new set of heads and a few other things on my 90tt(no fault of my own). I feel your pain.
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11-10-2006, 10:54 AM
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everyone says oil smoke is blue. Sorry, but I've not seen much blue oil smoke.
the ONLY TRUE WAY to differentiate between water and oil smoke:
Oil smoke lingers.
Water smoke dissipates because it's not even smoke as much as a steam-like vapor.
Zcoco, I know they advertise full synth, but they're not anymore. It's kinda sad.
the ONLY TRUE WAY to differentiate between water and oil smoke:
Oil smoke lingers.
Water smoke dissipates because it's not even smoke as much as a steam-like vapor.
Zcoco, I know they advertise full synth, but they're not anymore. It's kinda sad.
11-17-2006, 07:35 AM
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I have this same problem with smoke on decel after boosting wot. Recently it has been getting worse. I think I'm out of the 1 year warranty. How much does it cost to have my turbo rebuilt/ seals replaced? I have about 2500miles on the kit.
11-17-2006, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFla350z
I have this same problem with smoke on decel after boosting wot. Recently it has been getting worse. I think I'm out of the 1 year warranty. How much does it cost to have my turbo rebuilt/ seals replaced? I have about 2500miles on the kit.
We aren't turbonetics
11-17-2006, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFla350z
I have this same problem with smoke on decel after boosting wot. Recently it has been getting worse. I think I'm out of the 1 year warranty. How much does it cost to have my turbo rebuilt/ seals replaced? I have about 2500miles on the kit.
11-21-2006, 06:26 PM
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Turbonetics reported today that the turbo was looked at and they can't find any issue with the turbo... wtf!!! What situations would cause the oil to push past the oil seals on the turbo and compressor sides???? Drain line is unobstructed!! I am lost!
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11-21-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Turbonetics reported today that the turbo was looked at and they can't find any issue with the turbo... wtf!!! What situations would cause the oil to push past the oil seals on the turbo and compressor sides???? Drain line is unobstructed!! I am lost!
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11-21-2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Do you have a catch can? If the seal is intact and you are combusting/burning oil perhaps the oil is not coming from the turbo but rather from blow by.
He initially posted that the oil leak was so bad the silicone pipe coupler was sliding off.
11-21-2006, 06:33 PM
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i dont mean to sound lieka smart *** bro, but i mean you ahve some custom modifications to the trubo kit correct?, like something to fix the overboost...jet coating... i wonder if anything there cause anything.. just wondered...i honestly i am out of ideas too... its all too werid
11-21-2006, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Do you have a catch can? If the seal is intact and you are combusting/burning oil perhaps the oil is not coming from the turbo but rather from blow by. Or perhaps the oil filter was greatly increased on the feed line? Was the mesh filter still present on the oil inlet port on the bearing housing?
I didn't remove the oil fitting on the turbo. I shipped it with the oil inlet fitting installed.
The oil seal is compromised. That's a fact. No way it's not. There is no way I will install this turbo on my car again without the problem being identified. I'm not going to install this turbo after all this cleaning only for it to happen again.
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11-21-2006, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
The turbo compressor housing has a little river of all flowing from the bearing seal down the inside of the compressor housing. There is oil inside every pipe from the turbo to the TB. The intercooler was filled with oil. The boots were so filled with oil they would squish out from under the clamps as you tightened them. There was a pool of oil sitting in the intercooler. This is not blowby. No way. There is NO WAY that seal could be intact!!! Impossible!!!
I didn't remove the oil fitting on the turbo. I shipped it with the oil inlet fitting installed.
The oil seal is compromised. That's a fact. No way it's not. There is no way I will install this turbo on my car again without the problem being identified. I'm not going to install this turbo after all this cleaning only for it to happen again.
JET
I didn't remove the oil fitting on the turbo. I shipped it with the oil inlet fitting installed.
The oil seal is compromised. That's a fact. No way it's not. There is no way I will install this turbo on my car again without the problem being identified. I'm not going to install this turbo after all this cleaning only for it to happen again.
JET
doesn't hurt to check anythign else in your system as well
11-21-2006, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
i dont mean to sound lieka smart *** bro, but i mean you ahve some custom modifications to the trubo kit correct?, like something to fix the overboost...jet coating... i wonder if anything there cause anything.. just wondered...i honestly i am out of ideas too... its all too werid
There definitely is something at cause here if it's happened three times on the same car, and very few people have had this happen once, much less three times.
11-21-2006, 07:15 PM
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This isn't something that happens over time. This turbo was rebuilt and installed on a freshly built motor and it happened immediately. The oil return is in the upper pan as per the Turbonetics directions. Actually I can't even say it was rebuilt. I sent the turbo in before the motor build and they sent it back. Who knows if they did anything. They probably did nothing. No one at Turbonetics is helping me in any way. There are no suggestions. No communication. No anything.
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11-21-2006, 07:26 PM
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Well I apologize for not immediately remembering or knowing all this info. I'm just trying to help here. I don't recall any of this. I'll hit those guys up in the morning and see what I can find out...
11-21-2006, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
I have no problem repeating it... really I don't.
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