Utec and high hp numbers.
#181
Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Ohh...Sexy...
I need to loos about 25 lbs of fat right now to be happy with my looks.Here is a picture of me 2 summers ago at my peak shape..
I need to loos about 25 lbs of fat right now to be happy with my looks.Here is a picture of me 2 summers ago at my peak shape..
#182
Fight odds, someone had to do it.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
#183
Originally Posted by wtf no turbo
Fight odds, someone had to do it.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
#185
Originally Posted by Alberto
2X my weight? Ha-not anytime soon...
Dedication is the key and I really don't have much of that right now.
#186
Originally Posted by wtf no turbo
Fight odds, someone had to do it.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
#187
Fixed
Originally Posted by wtf no turbo
Fight odds, someone had to do it.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
And Last but not least ...
Me vs. my junks - lord knows I beat it to death on a constant basis.
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
And Last but not least ...
Me vs. my junks - lord knows I beat it to death on a constant basis.
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
#188
Originally Posted by dutchboy350Z
"Naturally" it's very tough to do. Once you start getting into low rep high weight workouts your joints start to feel it. My goal was to get four plates on each side (about twice my weight), but everytime I got close my joints just started to feel like I had arthritis.
Dedication is the key and I really don't have much of that right now.
Dedication is the key and I really don't have much of that right now.
#189
Originally Posted by Gman2004
I am out too! Got to go to the gym and put some more meat on my bones. I'll leave ya'll with some of my motivation. I watch this just before going to the gym everyday. See ya later skinny biatches! LOL
The Blade!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPr7B3d1eWg
The Blade!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPr7B3d1eWg
#190
Lets chop it up!
I really hate to say it, but any hiccups in the tune part throttle or not they are not due to resolution limitations. I tune both FCON and UTEC, hiccups can be found in both units. If you feeling like you are capable you can always tuned the Z from idle to peak boost. Certain features with the UTEC allow you to be a bit lazy. But lets be honest tuning doesn't stop on the dyno with a flat AFR curve and some high hp numbers. Allowing the factory ecu to still drive the car is an strength as well as a weakness. The strength's of the UTEC is that anyone who has a laptop is willing to play with tuning them CAN, when honestly they probably shouldn’t be touching anything ECU related. So at times you have people who shouldn't be tuning the radio in your car, now they are running around touting the crown. Making an engine management that is as powerful and complicated as the UTEC for a fraction of what you pay for an FCON is just ground breaking. The Retail price of the UTEC is $1049 and if the FCON was accessible to each and every single one of the price ****** on the internet it would either be just as inexpensive or it wouldn't exist.
The biggest feature of the UTEC is that it allows you to keep your factory ecu in the car so you can pass emissions. More than half of the board on the UTEC is devoted to just making sure the car runs without CEL's. It is much more complicated to do that than to just drive the car and give everyone the features that they do not exactly understand or when it comes down to it does not make a big difference in the way the car runs at all.
I think the term we are looking for here is interpolating... If you are going to run 20 psi, you can scale the map so you are making best use of the 10 columns. On a Subaru we push over 30 psi, and over 500whp Stock block NO PROBLEMS! All that really matters is RPM and Boost... platform doesn't matter!
I have played with this feature, it good in theory if you aren't confident in your tuning ability. But most well versed tuners will might use it while on the dyno and turn it off when the customer picks up the vehicle. Why, because the $200 o2 fails/often and any values it learns good or bad are applied to it's map. Which can lead to poor drive ability or a damaged motor. It's a good thing you can set it authority right?
Yeah, that's great while low impedance injectors are cheap, but you are paying 4k to have the ability to use them. The UTEC does not allow use of them because we want you to be able to revert back to stock very easily. 90% of the customers will already have the proper injectors that are made for the car.
It's nice when accurate over boost protection gets a bad rap. I think what you mean is there is not a time & psi limit on the over boost function. As we do not allow 1 millisecond of over boosting to keep you from hurting your engine. If your car goes over the limit at all, over boost is enabled.
Jermaine~
www.turboxs.com
301-977-4727
I really hate to say it, but any hiccups in the tune part throttle or not they are not due to resolution limitations. I tune both FCON and UTEC, hiccups can be found in both units. If you feeling like you are capable you can always tuned the Z from idle to peak boost. Certain features with the UTEC allow you to be a bit lazy. But lets be honest tuning doesn't stop on the dyno with a flat AFR curve and some high hp numbers. Allowing the factory ecu to still drive the car is an strength as well as a weakness. The strength's of the UTEC is that anyone who has a laptop is willing to play with tuning them CAN, when honestly they probably shouldn’t be touching anything ECU related. So at times you have people who shouldn't be tuning the radio in your car, now they are running around touting the crown. Making an engine management that is as powerful and complicated as the UTEC for a fraction of what you pay for an FCON is just ground breaking. The Retail price of the UTEC is $1049 and if the FCON was accessible to each and every single one of the price ****** on the internet it would either be just as inexpensive or it wouldn't exist.
The biggest feature of the UTEC is that it allows you to keep your factory ecu in the car so you can pass emissions. More than half of the board on the UTEC is devoted to just making sure the car runs without CEL's. It is much more complicated to do that than to just drive the car and give everyone the features that they do not exactly understand or when it comes down to it does not make a big difference in the way the car runs at all.
Those that have tuned the UTEC know is limitations, and tune around them. The UTEC does way to much "reading ahead", and extrapolating, which makes the tune ever more challenging with only 9 load columns to work with. With the FCON, each column represents 1/2 a PSI. On the UTEC scaled to 20psi for high boost, each load column represents more than 2 PSI.
Closed Loop and Open Loop AF Feedback (FCON is always learning and making adjustments)
Low Impedance Injectors
Controls large low impedence injectors easily. Our FCON cars wth 1000cc injectors start just like stock...no throttle blipping or user input needed
Controls large low impedence injectors easily. Our FCON cars wth 1000cc injectors start just like stock...no throttle blipping or user input needed
VERY tight overboost fuel cut. No reading ahead.
Jermaine~
www.turboxs.com
301-977-4727
Last edited by BlackTuner; 01-16-2007 at 01:45 PM.
#191
Originally Posted by Gman2004
Don't take this the wrong way and I am not calling you out, but most people that make statements like the one above are just making up an excuse for their lack of discipline to follow a proper diet. Getting the "metro sexual ripped look" if you don't have it naturally is a 24/7 job. No ding dongs and chit like that, and at midnight when your stomach is growling there's no cheating! You take the pain until it's time to eat again and then try to convice yourself about how good that oat meal and those egg whites taste. A very small portion of the population has what it takes to stick with a diet like that where you count every freaking calorie!
#192
Originally Posted by BlackTuner
Lets chop it up!
I really hate to say it, but any hiccups in the tune part throttle or not they are not due to resolution limitations. I tune both FCON and UTEC, hiccups can be found in both units. If you feeling like you are capable you can always tuned the Z from idle to peak boost. Certain features with the UTEC allow you to be a bit lazy. But lets be honest tuning doesn't stop on the dyno with a flat AFR curve and some high hp numbers. Allowing the factory ecu to still drive the car is an strength as well as a weakness. The strength's of the UTEC is that anyone who has a laptop is willing to play with tuning them CAN, when honestly they probably shouldn’t be touching anything ECU related. So at times you have people who shouldn't be tuning the radio in your car, now they are running around touting the crown. Making an engine management that is as powerful and complicated as the UTEC for a fraction of what you pay for an FCON is just ground breaking. The Retail price of the UTEC is $1049 and if the FCON was accessible to each and every single one of the price ****** on the internet it would either be just as inexpensive or it wouldn't exist.
The biggest feature of the UTEC is that it allows you to keep your factory ecu in the car so you can pass emissions. More than half of the board on the UTEC is devoted to just making sure the car runs without CEL's. It is much more complicated to do that than to just drive the car and give everyone the features that they do not exactly understand or when it comes down to it does not make a big difference in the way the car runs at all.
I think the term we are looking for here is interpolating... If you are going to run 20 psi, you can scale the map so you are making best use of the 10 columns. On a Subaru we push over 30 psi, and over 500whp Stock block NO PROBLEMS! All that really matters is RPM and Boost... platform doesn't matter!
I have played with this feature, it good in theory if you aren't confident in your tuning ability. But most well versed tuners will might use it while on the dyno and turn it off when the customer picks up the vehicle. Why, because the $200 o2 fails/often and any values it learns good or bad are applied to it's map. Which can lead to poor drive ability or a damaged motor. It's a good thing you can set it authority right?
Yeah, that's great while low impedance injectors are cheap, but you are paying 4k to have the ability to use them. The UTEC does not allow use of them because we want you to be able to revert back to stock very easily. 90% of the customers will already have the proper injectors that are made for the car.
It's nice when accurate over boost protection gets a bad rap. I think what you mean is there is not a time & psi limit on the over boost function. As we do not allow 1 millisecond of over boosting to keep you from hurting your engine. If your car goes over the limit at all, over boost is enabled.
Jermaine~
www.turboxs.com
301-977-4727
I really hate to say it, but any hiccups in the tune part throttle or not they are not due to resolution limitations. I tune both FCON and UTEC, hiccups can be found in both units. If you feeling like you are capable you can always tuned the Z from idle to peak boost. Certain features with the UTEC allow you to be a bit lazy. But lets be honest tuning doesn't stop on the dyno with a flat AFR curve and some high hp numbers. Allowing the factory ecu to still drive the car is an strength as well as a weakness. The strength's of the UTEC is that anyone who has a laptop is willing to play with tuning them CAN, when honestly they probably shouldn’t be touching anything ECU related. So at times you have people who shouldn't be tuning the radio in your car, now they are running around touting the crown. Making an engine management that is as powerful and complicated as the UTEC for a fraction of what you pay for an FCON is just ground breaking. The Retail price of the UTEC is $1049 and if the FCON was accessible to each and every single one of the price ****** on the internet it would either be just as inexpensive or it wouldn't exist.
The biggest feature of the UTEC is that it allows you to keep your factory ecu in the car so you can pass emissions. More than half of the board on the UTEC is devoted to just making sure the car runs without CEL's. It is much more complicated to do that than to just drive the car and give everyone the features that they do not exactly understand or when it comes down to it does not make a big difference in the way the car runs at all.
I think the term we are looking for here is interpolating... If you are going to run 20 psi, you can scale the map so you are making best use of the 10 columns. On a Subaru we push over 30 psi, and over 500whp Stock block NO PROBLEMS! All that really matters is RPM and Boost... platform doesn't matter!
I have played with this feature, it good in theory if you aren't confident in your tuning ability. But most well versed tuners will might use it while on the dyno and turn it off when the customer picks up the vehicle. Why, because the $200 o2 fails/often and any values it learns good or bad are applied to it's map. Which can lead to poor drive ability or a damaged motor. It's a good thing you can set it authority right?
Yeah, that's great while low impedance injectors are cheap, but you are paying 4k to have the ability to use them. The UTEC does not allow use of them because we want you to be able to revert back to stock very easily. 90% of the customers will already have the proper injectors that are made for the car.
It's nice when accurate over boost protection gets a bad rap. I think what you mean is there is not a time & psi limit on the over boost function. As we do not allow 1 millisecond of over boosting to keep you from hurting your engine. If your car goes over the limit at all, over boost is enabled.
Jermaine~
www.turboxs.com
301-977-4727
#194
Originally Posted by 350Z_LEE
Dam, I was supposed to run this customers credit like an hour ago and got sidetracked reading this thread. Good job!
P.S. If I was a buisness owner, I would conduct myself accordingly. Not that I would have got tuned there, SGP is my tuner, but I lost some respect for MRC after reading the threats and all. Pretty unprofessional.
and +1 to Jeremy and shariff too. Seem like 2 good buisness/guys.
P.S. If I was a buisness owner, I would conduct myself accordingly. Not that I would have got tuned there, SGP is my tuner, but I lost some respect for MRC after reading the threats and all. Pretty unprofessional.
and +1 to Jeremy and shariff too. Seem like 2 good buisness/guys.
#195
I was searching old posts on here the other day and ran across dealers pushing the emanage like it was some rare material or some crap. Then i saw utec pushing, now i see the fcon. I like the utec i just dont like the software and i want cam control. I also want to be able to tune my car with a wideband on the road (without paying someone). The utec cant really be beat for the price and they use it on some crazy high horsepower subarus with no problem. I dont see what the deal is with people saying that it works at 450hp but wont work at 600hp when its doing the exact same thing.
#196
Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
...to have me tune his weaksauce procharged car
#199
Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Anything that involves YOU and the JACKING process, is accepted as standard operating procedures..
#200
Originally Posted by wtf no turbo
Fight odds, someone had to do it.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
Julian vs Alberto-Julian in the big early favorite here 8 to 1 for the mere fact bert is a punk and Julian has guns as a last resort.
MaxZ vs Alberto-With the substantial reach advantage here I have to say Max 5-3
Oldschool vs Gman-Well Gman definitly has the size advantage here but never bet against a Marine. Oldscool 3to2
Dutchboy vs Dutchboy No comment on this but it will be a snoozer.
Sharif vs Turbotim- Have to go with Tim here since he is not scared to tune a UTEC
UTEC vs FCON-Go with the UTEC here and buy a nice 42 plasma for the bedroom with the money you save.
Originally Posted by doug
doug vs maximumsportZ - Doug shoots MaximumsportZ dead
Man up so I can drop you on your shoulders.