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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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I need more boost. Hey guys
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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I need more boost. Hey guys
We all do
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by iStan
I need more boost. Hey guys
Hey Stan. I think Forged_G might be selling a 2.87 pulley soon if you want more boost.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Hey Stan. I think Forged_G might be selling a 2.87 pulley soon if you want more boost.
Forged... Shoot me a PM if that's true. I just realized I've been at 5psi for three years now.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by iStan
Forged... Shoot me a PM if that's true. I just realized I've been at 5psi for three years now.
That's true. We both went with Vortech's at about the same time bro. It's definitely time for more boost!!
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by iStan
Forged... Shoot me a PM if that's true. I just realized I've been at 5psi for three years now.
You have pm sir
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Do I get a referral fee?
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
Do I get a referral fee?
hahaa... i was actually going to make a comment in regards to that but forgot to. lol
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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quick question.. with the 3.12 i have coming.. should i use the stock belt that Vortech sells? the 93.5" belt? or should i get a 93" belt to avoid belt slipage?
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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With the 3.12, the stock belt should be fine. But what I always do is buy an extra belt just in case. It's always good to have an extra belt just as a backup.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
With the 3.12, the stock belt should be fine. But what I always do is buy an extra belt just in case. It's always good to have an extra belt just as a backup.
I agree on having a spare belt but is the size good? 93.5? i know a lot of people get the 93" belt to avoid belt slipage?
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Forged_G
I agree on having a spare belt but is the size good? 93.5? i know a lot of people get the 93" belt to avoid belt slipage?
Yeah, I meant get the 93" belt as a back up. If the stock belt starts to slip, just swap them out and use the stock belt as the backup/emergency belt.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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maybe you missed my Si trim making 460whp/405wtrq on a dynodynamics and close to 500 on a dynojet, untouched stock motor.

Also, please explain how 13psi boost pressure is too much for a stock block when hes not making enough torque to bend the rods? Unless physics have changed and a measure of back pressure in the system started to bend rods overnight

If you arent making 380-400 ft pounds of wtrq, you can keep going with smaller pulleys.

Also, if you are stil using the 93" belt on a non-rev, you should call vortech ASAP and get the revised pulley setup and run the much shorter serp belt.

Originally Posted by Hexxum001
I understand that. Different shops, different tuners, different cars. But guys with the Si trim haven't put up numbers that high on a stock block and no head work. It's just kinda suprising to see numbers and psi this high on the 2.87 pulley.

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
maybe you missed my Si trim making 460whp/405wtrq on a dynodynamics and close to 500 on a dynojet, untouched stock motor.

Also, please explain how 13psi boost pressure is too much for a stock block when hes not making enough torque to bend the rods? Unless physics have changed and a measure of back pressure in the system started to bend rods overnight

If you arent making 380-400 ft pounds of wtrq, you can keep going with smaller pulleys.
Hmm.. interesting..

From what i have seen/read 99% people advise to not push that many PSI's

IDK.. im an IT guy.. lol
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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I didn't miss it. I remember you were one of the first ones to go with the Si trim. It's just been a long time and I thought you put those numbers down on a built block. So I stand corrected. My point is that not a lot of people are putting up those kind of numbers with his setup. 400whp has generally been accepted as the point where you are now pushing the limits of a stock block.
My statement was based on him making 440whp @ 13psi. IMO that is pushing it. Yes, we know that you just stated that you made 500 on a stock block, on a dynojet. That doesn't mean it is safe. Once again, this is based on what GENERALLY has been agreed upon in the VQ community. And since Forged_G didn't state what tq numbers he put down, I was making my statement based on the info provided.
I'm not a non-revup. 2006 G35 6MT's are all revup.
Originally Posted by str8dum1
maybe you missed my Si trim making 460whp/405wtrq on a dynodynamics and close to 500 on a dynojet, untouched stock motor.

Also, please explain how 13psi boost pressure is too much for a stock block when hes not making enough torque to bend the rods? Unless physics have changed and a measure of back pressure in the system started to bend rods overnight

If you arent making 380-400 ft pounds of wtrq, you can keep going with smaller pulleys.

Also, if you are stil using the 93" belt on a non-rev, you should call vortech ASAP and get the revised pulley setup and run the much shorter serp belt.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Forged_G
Hmm.. interesting..

From what i have seen/read 99% people advise to not push that many PSI's

IDK.. im an IT guy.. lol
In general, 440whp @ 13psi is pushing it on a stock block. (I'm saying in general, that okay for you str8dum1? LOL)
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
maybe you missed my Si trim making 460whp/405wtrq on a dynodynamics and close to 500 on a dynojet, untouched stock motor.

Also, please explain how 13psi boost pressure is too much for a stock block when hes not making enough torque to bend the rods? Unless physics have changed and a measure of back pressure in the system started to bend rods overnight

If you arent making 380-400 ft pounds of wtrq, you can keep going with smaller pulleys.

Also, if you are stil using the 93" belt on a non-rev, you should call vortech ASAP and get the revised pulley setup and run the much shorter serp belt.
i was wondering when you'd find this string of posts
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
In general, 440whp @ 13psi is pushing it on a stock block. (I'm saying in general, that okay for you str8dum1? LOL)


Well to be "safe" i am going to go with the Stillen Headers, Stillen HFC's and 3.12 pulley and 93" belt. Oh and a retune

I just want the car to last.. till i decide to build the engine and do twins
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Forged_G


Well to be "safe" i am going to go with the Stillen Headers, Stillen HFC's and 3.12 pulley and 93" belt. Oh and a retune

I just want the car to last.. till i decide to build the engine and do twins
That's good thinking bro. That's why I was more than happy with the way my G came out. Just under 400whp 330tq on a conservative tune on my daily driver. I still have some decent power for when I want to get on it and it still has some nice driveability for days I wanna just take it easy and enjoy a cruise. That was 3+ years ago and I have had no problems (*knock on wood*). Hopefully I don't get yelled at again.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Forged_G


Well to be "safe" i am going to go with the Stillen Headers, Stillen HFC's and 3.12 pulley and 93" belt. Oh and a retune

I just want the car to last.. till i decide to build the engine and do twins
stock belt should fit 1 sized smaller pulley than it came with if hte belt isn't worn out. So if 3.33 is stock for that system then you'll still be ok with a 3.12 on the belt size. I would just use the stock vortech belt for a test fit then if you run out of belt tension you can get hte next size smaller. I just went to napa and got a Gates belt from them. They keep almost every size in stock and it's half the price vortech sells them for.

hey, while you're waiting you might as well look for a stock block somewhere. You can pick them up online for 500ish so it would be cheaper than using your own engine for a core. Core is 1500$ so you'll be saving money technically. Then you can have that built while you're still driving your car and that reduces downtime. It also keeps your stock engine in your garage for a backup.
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