View Poll Results: If had money, Turbo for Z or ZO6 down payement?
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Put it towards a Vette
159
37.32%
Neither, save money for different car
65
15.26%
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If had money, Turbo for Z or ZO6 down payement?
09-05-2007, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ktown z
When you mod a car it never drives like oem! There are headaches everywhere you look and you are always adusting things (if your **** like me). For the price I paid to get everything done to my car I could have paid off a new Z06. I love my Z to death but would rather have a ZO6 IMO.
09-06-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
Is this line supposed to be funny!?
Assuming your guess was validated through an accurate pole, it would only hold true with regards to FI 350z's WITHOUT forged engines. I have defined and stated numerous times already, we are basing this discussion around TT 350z's with BUILT engines.
Assuming your guess was validated through an accurate pole, it would only hold true with regards to FI 350z's WITHOUT forged engines. I have defined and stated numerous times already, we are basing this discussion around TT 350z's with BUILT engines.
It's the only way a 350z can beat a Z06, duh!
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Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
BTW, where did you get your 1 in 10 result from? Did you in fact take a poll or a random sampling? Have you ever taken a stat course before....probably not b/c if you did you would know better then to announce something that isn't backed with fact. You would also know that alot of time and money goes into getting accurate statistics which are derived from complex probability formulas, expensive poles, distribution/sampling, and techniques for the collection and analysis of data. In other words, your 1 in 10 guess is really pretty hysterical. It's not what you think, it's what you can prove.
Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THIS. A twin turbo 350z on a built engine can definitely make over 520 whp (on high-boost) and beat up a Z06. I'm not concerned with how many Z's you think a z06 can beat. I'm trying to inform the OP of the potential he has with his car so that during his decision-making he can weigh all his options. And the fact that only a handful of Z's can beat a Z06 is actually advantageous for us... since the Z is looked upon as the underdog we have the element of surprise going in.
Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
I am being realistic. To think that a 350z with $25-30k in pure racing mods will not outperform a stock Z06 is entirely unrealistic.
Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
You're changing the topic -- the stock Z06 has been emphasized this whole time. Too many variables once you start adding in what a modded Z06 can do. That is a separate discussion all together.
Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
We accounted for this in the equation (~10%). You obviously did not read very carefully.
Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
Never said it would be an easy task. But then again that's why God created reputable shops like GTM and Forged.
That was exactly my whole claim in my previous post.And yes, Forged and GTM are the right places for such highly modded VQ's
PS. Don't take anything personal or offensive. You were just on a different page than I was; completely different claims.
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To the OP, goodluck with your decision. Either way, you're going to have a fun car!
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09-06-2007, 02:57 PM
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why does everyone's FI Z need to be faster than a Z06 in the first place?
Just about every single one of us could have bought a used C5 or Z06 when we bought our brand new 350Z. What stopped us?
For me, it was that I like the Z. As much of a better deal that the vette would have been, it just didn't appeal to me. Most FI people just want more power from their favorite affordable non-exotic car. There's always going to be a faster car though
If people are so concerned about beating Z06's, then there's other cheaper options out there to do it, but we all chose the Z/G
Just about every single one of us could have bought a used C5 or Z06 when we bought our brand new 350Z. What stopped us?
For me, it was that I like the Z. As much of a better deal that the vette would have been, it just didn't appeal to me. Most FI people just want more power from their favorite affordable non-exotic car. There's always going to be a faster car though
If people are so concerned about beating Z06's, then there's other cheaper options out there to do it, but we all chose the Z/G
09-06-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
why does everyone's FI Z need to be faster than a Z06 in the first place?
Just about every single one of us could have bought a used C5 or Z06 when we bought our brand new 350Z. What stopped us?
For me, it was that I like the Z. As much of a better deal that the vette would have been, it just didn't appeal to me. Most FI people just want more power from their favorite affordable non-exotic car. There's always going to be a faster car though
If people are so concerned about beating Z06's, then there's other cheaper options out there to do it, but we all chose the Z/G
Just about every single one of us could have bought a used C5 or Z06 when we bought our brand new 350Z. What stopped us?
For me, it was that I like the Z. As much of a better deal that the vette would have been, it just didn't appeal to me. Most FI people just want more power from their favorite affordable non-exotic car. There's always going to be a faster car though
If people are so concerned about beating Z06's, then there's other cheaper options out there to do it, but we all chose the Z/G
Good point. The only reason I even talked about the subject was because I had to reply to something I disagreed on.
Anyhow, we can't compare out VQ's to supercar level, no matter if we mod them to mimic such performance.
Too bad most of us can't afford a C6 Z06
PS. Can't really compare the C5 to a C6 in terms of value, especially a C6 Z06.
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09-06-2007, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Too bad most of us can't afford a C6 Z06
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09-06-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Zexy
Performance wise? I disagree. 
If we mod a 350Z to be as fast or faster than a C6 Z06, does that make it comparable? If we mod a C6 Z06 to be as fast or faster to a Saleen S7, does that make it comparable?
I think not
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09-08-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Obviously, many cars can be made faster than another much faster car as long as the person the finances.
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Face it, not many of the FI 350Z's aren't pushing 500+rwhp nor are the majority of FI 350Z's built.
pssst ....you used a double negative and your sentence actually reads: "Face it, many of the FI 350z's are pushing 500+rwhp..."
Who says we don't need no education.
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
My whole point is just the fact that VERY little FI 350Z's have the potential to outrun a stock 350Z.
This may sound crazy, but shouldn't the FI Z be faster than the stock Z?
You meant ZO6?? Oh well then your "whole point" is still "VERY little" intelligent since you were discussing "potential."
Also, did they teach you "VERY little" in school? pssst here's another grammar tip: it's "very few" not "very little."
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
But then again, when & where did I ever state that a 350Z with 25-30k in mods would not out accelerate a C6 Z06?
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Take a look at most FI threads in here. How many of them are pushing 500+ rwhp on built engines?
Originally Posted by DDS_RACER
A twin turbo 350z on a built engine can definitely make over 520 whp (on high-boost) and beat up a Z06. I'm not concerned with how many Z's you think a z06 can beat. I'm trying to inform the OP of the potential he has with his car so that during his decision-making he can weigh all his options.
Originally Posted by Gurgen
The G35/Z is truly not a slouch either though... just look at the numerous shouts, especially the last G37 one...and trust me, an FI upgrade to a current VQ35DE would put one in that territory easily.
https://my350z.com/forum/exterior-and-interior/299859-what-turns-on-the-2007-front-bumper-lights.html
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Once again, im being realistic. If you like, how about you make a poll? I'm really not going to spend my time on something im already sure of.
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
9/10 is something of an educated guess for ALL forced induction 350Z's. If I were a little more conservative, I would say 8/10
As I've stated before, it's not what you think, it's what you can prove. Everything on this thread has either been proven with straigtforward math (ie Gurgen's calculations) or backed up with fact.
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Out of all the TT/ST 350Z's out there, not many will beat a C6 Z06. But I'm sure there are a number of members here who can potentially outpace a C6 Z06.
Wait a second. I'm confused. Didn't he just state:
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Take a look at most FI threads in here. How many of them are pushing 500+ rwhp on built engines?
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
not many of the FI 350Z's aren't pushing 500+rwhp
Skater, overall your statements sound pretty ridiculous not to mention hysterical. BTW, you really need to proofread your posts, half the crap you write I end up having to correct. Despite the fact that people will never take your remarks seriously, I would encourage you to carry on and keep posting because you give us all a good laugh on here. And just so we're clear, my comments to you, well, nothing personal <---------sound familiar?
Still laughing....
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