Ok that actually came out wrong. I've never actually seen you give misinformation like alot of folks on here do but Its just the way it comes out sometimes that I don't agree with.

 

Ok guys need some help. I was thinking about going built motor in the next month but It ended up being a little to rich for my blood after all the hidden costs right now. We'll see about christmas time if the boss is feeling generous on bonuses (I already have to buy a F ucking engagement ring ). Anyway so for right now I was hoping you guys could give me some ideas on where to best put to use about 3g's give or take 500 bux

 

Umm invest? Withdraw later when you can afford the $6k for built motor? (Yes, it's that cheap)

 

Some more bad news about the new intercooler. It seems that the new intercooler is going to be an UPGRADE to the current kit with the current intercooler. Much like the upgrade to a larger turbo, this will be an option that'll bump up the price of the kit.

The other bad news about it is that there's only 2 prototypes made so far, and he's not 100% sure it'll fit right in without any fabrication.

I'm looking into just getting the kit with no intercooler at all and find myself a better one like athenG did. I suggest you keep the IC you got for cheap athen, as the STS intercoolers seem to be their weakness.

Comparing the current intercooler with the ARC one you got for cheap, how's the difference in size... inlet + outlet... etc? How much fabrication will it take?

 

better off having a reputable shop make you one than relying on Squires slow R&D

 

OT: abyss I hate your avatars, I usually spend 5 mins googling for the actual pic

This one in particular I'm not too crazy over though...

 

hhmm I don't want to open my mouth again but I was told that the upgrade at least one will fit with just a little cut on one of the tube.

PE ARC IC I got has 22.3" (W) x 10.3" (H) x 2.5" (D) and inlet is around 2.75". I'm going to look for the link but you can get some brand new Bar/Plate FMIC for around 250-400 and if you want brand name (Spearco..) it will be 800+.

 

so what would be the advantage of a spearco over the ones your looking at? I messed around with trying to tune out the pressure drop through my AVC-R but if you get it right in 3rd gear it wont be right in fourth because the pressure drop is at different rpms in third and fourth (at least for me)

 

I honestly am not cinvinced the intercooler on the current kit is maxed out of airflow or is supect in anyones pressure loss.

 

But has it been taken to 12 psi (like I plan) yet?

 

Good luck on that.Let me know how it works out for you.

 

I did got an Email from Rick that at 8+PSI the current IC is already on the restricted side. I told him about a pressure drop that most of us are having especially at the higher RPM. I usually hold my peak 8lbs at around mid 4000rpm and after that it start to fall and at around 6000rpm I already lost 1.x psi from the peak, unless you tuned my car that way . That is why they are doing an upgrade already or rumor said they are doing an upgrade

 

I ask MIAPLAYA about the effeciency rate of the 60 trim and this is what he wrote (STS also said the same thing)

"A T04E 60 trim compressor has a max flow of 50 lb/min or roughly 500 HP. The actual amount you see to the wheels will depend largely on other factors but I wouldn't expect to see much more then 450 MAX on this compressor set up. Peak pressure within the efficiency island is about 26 PSI however the 50 lb/min of max flow is found at about 20.5 PSI. Going above that won't net you anything but hot air."

 

And that means.... what?

 

And what about the 60-1?

 

12 psi on a stock motor?Good luck. thats all.

 

Ah hem... signature...

 

60-1 has about 130 more power than the 60 trim.

 

Oh..ok..Thatll work.

 

Good cuz I'm hoping for 400 awhp / 400 awtq... and in order to do that I need alot more crank HP than you RWD folks

I have yet to hear back how much Rick's willing to drop off the price on the kit with no intercooler. From one of their sales reps (Chris, South East), their crap intercooler ~$799... so if Rick's willing to drop 400 off the price of the kit to include no IC I'd be happy.