Official STS Rear Mount Turbo Discussion Thread
Originally Posted by App6MT
I have another question for you guys. I know the STS comes with UTEC but I am extremely interested in using Cipher for an EMS. After talking to Jared, he disclosed that the MAF has to be mounted infront of the turbo like the JWT setup.
My main question is, how the hell would I go about accomplishing that when the MAF is in the engine bay? Would it be as simple as extending the wiring to the rear of the car?
My main question is, how the hell would I go about accomplishing that when the MAF is in the engine bay? Would it be as simple as extending the wiring to the rear of the car?
Just curios why in front of the Turbo? The temp will be so High at that area so the Air flow and temp will be way off by the time it hit your Throttle body . First you need to upgrade your MAF. Go with what is proven with FI and Utec has enough safety feature that you can use. Not really familiar with Cipher but Utec is easy to adjust once you know what to adjust.
Originally Posted by athenG
Just curios why in front of the Turbo? The temp will be so High at that area so the Air flow and temp will be way off by the time it hit your Throttle body . First you need to upgrade your MAF. Go with what is proven with FI and Utec has enough safety feature that you can use. Not really familiar with Cipher but Utec is easy to adjust once you know what to adjust.
Hey guys I am not gonna go ahead with my original plans of starting a new tread I just dont feel like dealing with all the drama it will start...
Here is the outcome of everything
-Cause was ONE bad injector not FIVE like Sharif had told me.
-Utec ran perfectly and there were no problems there
-Injector company said the ONE injector looked like it had been messed up during the install but they were going to give me benifit of the doubt since all the headache I went through and the reputation Forged has with 350's.
-STS agreed to pay for 1/3 of my repair bill/install bill, the injector people are paying for a 1/3 and the way it looks Forged isn't going to give me a dime.
-STS is also sending me a new utec and injectors and I do not know what my plans are as of now with this kit
Bottom line if you want something done right at STS you have to talk to Bill Devine he is an outstanding guy and he made the whole situation a lot better.
Here is the outcome of everything
-Cause was ONE bad injector not FIVE like Sharif had told me.
-Utec ran perfectly and there were no problems there
-Injector company said the ONE injector looked like it had been messed up during the install but they were going to give me benifit of the doubt since all the headache I went through and the reputation Forged has with 350's.
-STS agreed to pay for 1/3 of my repair bill/install bill, the injector people are paying for a 1/3 and the way it looks Forged isn't going to give me a dime.
-STS is also sending me a new utec and injectors and I do not know what my plans are as of now with this kit
Bottom line if you want something done right at STS you have to talk to Bill Devine he is an outstanding guy and he made the whole situation a lot better.
Originally Posted by aarantes
Hey guys I am not gonna go ahead with my original plans of starting a new tread I just dont feel like dealing with all the drama it will start...
Here is the outcome of everything
-Cause was ONE bad injector not FIVE like Sharif had told me.
-Utec ran perfectly and there were no problems there
-Injector company said the ONE injector looked like it had been messed up during the install but they were going to give me benifit of the doubt since all the headache I went through and the reputation Forged has with 350's.
-STS agreed to pay for 1/3 of my repair bill/install bill, the injector people are paying for a 1/3 and the way it looks Forged isn't going to give me a dime.
-STS is also sending me a new utec and injectors and I do not know what my plans are as of now with this kit
Bottom line if you want something done right at STS you have to talk to Bill Devine he is an outstanding guy and he made the whole situation a lot better.
Here is the outcome of everything
-Cause was ONE bad injector not FIVE like Sharif had told me.
-Utec ran perfectly and there were no problems there
-Injector company said the ONE injector looked like it had been messed up during the install but they were going to give me benifit of the doubt since all the headache I went through and the reputation Forged has with 350's.
-STS agreed to pay for 1/3 of my repair bill/install bill, the injector people are paying for a 1/3 and the way it looks Forged isn't going to give me a dime.
-STS is also sending me a new utec and injectors and I do not know what my plans are as of now with this kit
Bottom line if you want something done right at STS you have to talk to Bill Devine he is an outstanding guy and he made the whole situation a lot better.
Yeah man I will let you know I will most likely be selling the kit since I have all these bills to pay now haha. But like I said its not worth all the trouble plus Id like to get on my350z without hate PMs everyday
aarantes,
At least you got some $$ though but you are still down considerabley... This is the game we play, some people get luck and get to drive their car for 90k miles trouble free and some don't even make it to the dyno... I know you did the best you can and even went to one of the most reliable shop but chit happen you know. Good luck!
At least you got some $$ though but you are still down considerabley... This is the game we play, some people get luck and get to drive their car for 90k miles trouble free and some don't even make it to the dyno... I know you did the best you can and even went to one of the most reliable shop but chit happen you know. Good luck!
Originally Posted by aarantes
Yeah man I will let you know I will most likely be selling the kit since I have all these bills to pay now haha. But like I said its not worth all the trouble plus Id like to get on my350z without hate PMs everyday
Originally Posted by App6MT
According to the STS manual (thanks again AthenG), they recommend soldering the fuel pump wire for the best possible connection.
Originally Posted by App6MT
I have another question for you guys. I know the STS comes with UTEC but I am extremely interested in using Cipher for an EMS. After talking to Jared, he disclosed that the MAF has to be mounted infront of the turbo like the JWT setup.
My main question is, how the hell would I go about accomplishing that when the MAF is in the engine bay? Would it be as simple as extending the wiring to the rear of the car?
My main question is, how the hell would I go about accomplishing that when the MAF is in the engine bay? Would it be as simple as extending the wiring to the rear of the car?
Last edited by Ahsmo; Jan 3, 2008 at 10:35 AM.
Originally Posted by TheProfessional
Now I can't get Thomas on the phone.... and he doesn't return my messages?
Chit quit strressing man
everything will work out. you still have a few more items to get for the complete install anyway
Originally Posted by TheProfessional
You mean I have to master more than just a flathead screwdriver to go F/I ???
LOL
What did you use the soldering gun for? I figured the wiring was plug/play, unless you had to find a power source for the UTEC...
LOL
What did you use the soldering gun for? I figured the wiring was plug/play, unless you had to find a power source for the UTEC...
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Just wanted to let everyone know that CIN got my speed signal on the apexi avc-r hooked up and I'm able to use the gear dependent boost feature now to hit full bost in 1st and second gear. It really helps off the line with spool up time and power in first and second. Now I just have to get retuned.
Originally Posted by DanielW
Just wanted to let everyone know that CIN got my speed signal on the apexi avc-r hooked up and I'm able to use the gear dependent boost feature now to hit full bost in 1st and second gear. It really helps off the line with spool up time and power in first and second. Now I just have to get retuned.
That is a great news... Once I'm done with the other more important things (Test Pipes and Water/Meth kit) then I'll probably upgrade to an EBC.
I PM'ed this to you but I think I might as well post it here.
"Just waiting for warmer weather to install my Water/Meth kit... Winter Suck here in NY, I'm up to 17% Fuel Compensation in Utec (
on <1deg C) just to deal with the Colder Weather and my injectors are already 100% Duty Cycle at 6+psi 6000rpm. Any Higher (boost/RPM) than this and I can't add anymore Fuel. I'm still good with my 8psi but I have to shift below 5500rpm...."
This usually happen when it is below freezing, I think having a Water/Meth will help my Injector since I don't have to put that much Fuel when on Meth. Well, either get a bigger injector or Fuel Return.
