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I installed 550cc injectors, Walbro fuel pump, and a Utec on my 350z. On the initial fire up it started up fine and was idling perfectly fine. So I go to take it around the block to see how it drives. It just died when I came to a stop. Now whenever I start it, it starts for a couple of seconds but dies, or wants to die. It struggles to stay on. Any ideas on what the problem might be?
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Originally Posted by JonnyC
Sorry, that's not much information 
Is this the first time installing all of these parts? What F/I kit are you running?
What are your settings on the UTEC?

Is this the first time installing all of these parts? What F/I kit are you running?
What are your settings on the UTEC?
Originally Posted by Everybodywildou
I'm running the vortech supercharger w/ 9lb pulley. The Utec has the turbonetics map w/ 550cc injectors. This is the 2nd time I've done the fuel pump. But other than that, everything else was new to me.
vortech is not a turbonetics kit... maybe take it in for a custom tune
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Originally Posted by Zivman
vortech is not a turbonetics kit... maybe take it in for a custom tune
Originally Posted by Everybodywildou
Well yeah thats a given. But I put that as a base map just to get the car to the shop.
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It's the base map. No matter what you have that map running for. it's not gonna run right. It's set for turbonetics not what you have. So thats whats messing it up. You know you set it like that so it can get to a tune shop. So you needa deal with it dieing till it gets a tune. Its obviously its either not getting fuel or air. And its cause of the tune. nothin else. Deal with it dieing till you get to the tune shop and watch you problem fix....
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Originally Posted by shadykilla717
It's the base map. No matter what you have that map running for. it's not gonna run right. It's set for turbonetics not what you have. So thats whats messing it up. You know you set it like that so it can get to a tune shop. So you needa deal with it dieing till it gets a tune. Its obviously its either not getting fuel or air. And its cause of the tune. nothin else. Deal with it dieing till you get to the tune shop and watch you problem fix....
Have you reflashed your ECU? If the stock ECU is still thinking your injectors are stock than it ain't gonna idle worth a damn. The UTEC won't kick in until you get some rev's on it if you have the 0% column correctly set. (EDIT: oops, I forget about speed density vs. MAF 'switch', disregard the above).
You should be able to keep it running (pig-rich) with throttle-blipping but it ain't gonna be pretty.
Might be time to get the Osiris reflash. At least they can get the car to idle until you can get it to the tuner.
You should be able to keep it running (pig-rich) with throttle-blipping but it ain't gonna be pretty.
Might be time to get the Osiris reflash. At least they can get the car to idle until you can get it to the tuner.
Last edited by MrJax; Feb 20, 2008 at 06:41 PM.
I think you guys are a bit off on your "base map" logic. The base map should work to scale for the injectors. With the map sensor hooked up, he shouldnt ever see boost or leave the 0% column right? I limped my vortech with 440cc injectors on a greddy 8psi map all the way to forged and it ran fine.
Everybodywildou, did you update the map and all the paramaters? Using the map for speed density not the maf right? Maybe try a different map.
When you turn the key, you hear the pump come on right? that buzzing whir noise should indicate that its working.
Data log when its on, do you have a wideband?
Everybodywildou, did you update the map and all the paramaters? Using the map for speed density not the maf right? Maybe try a different map.
When you turn the key, you hear the pump come on right? that buzzing whir noise should indicate that its working.
Data log when its on, do you have a wideband?
Well, I would suggest reading the UTEC manual - it really has some great information. Spend a few hours reading that, and you should realize why the TN tune just isn't cutting it. Then you should actually be able to make some changes yourself.
And it looks like the Injector scaling params aren't even entered (in bold)??? I must be missing something here. But if that's the case, you will need to change these to 550, 300
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Originally Posted by Everybodywildou
I cant get it to the shop if it barely runs. I mean barely. It won't even rev up.
Just take it to go get a tune, that happened to me after I installed my Procharger w/ Utec, 550cc, Walbro Fuel Pump, basically same thing as you and more. And It wouldn't really start up, it boggs and was running to rich, struggles to stay on. It was so rich that we start it up and it turned off so many times it fouled my new plugs i installed. The tuner d/l the turbonetics map as my base map and the car didn't start, replaced my plugs again, car started but was running way to rich and struggling, tuned it, then its running.
So you basically just need a tune, tow it to the place if you have too, that's what I did, no way I could of drove it with new injectors installed and no tune. I don't know if its the same situation, but it really does sound like it so keep us updated.
So you basically just need a tune, tow it to the place if you have too, that's what I did, no way I could of drove it with new injectors installed and no tune. I don't know if its the same situation, but it really does sound like it so keep us updated.
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Originally Posted by G35Rider92649
Just take it to go get a tune, that happened to me after I installed my Procharger w/ Utec, 550cc, Walbro Fuel Pump, basically same thing as you and more. And It wouldn't really start up, it boggs and was running to rich, struggles to stay on. It was so rich that we start it up and it turned off so many times it fouled my new plugs i installed. The tuner d/l the turbonetics map as my base map and the car didn't start, replaced my plugs again, car started but was running way to rich and struggling, tuned it, then its running.
So you basically just need a tune, tow it to the place if you have too, that's what I did, no way I could of drove it with new injectors installed and no tune. I don't know if its the same situation, but it really does sound like it so keep us updated.
So you basically just need a tune, tow it to the place if you have too, that's what I did, no way I could of drove it with new injectors installed and no tune. I don't know if its the same situation, but it really does sound like it so keep us updated.I'm just worried that I popped my stock block. Cause I figure, why did it start right up originally and now it is having issues?
Last edited by Everybodywildou; Feb 21, 2008 at 08:39 AM.
You need a tune? You never got a tune yet right? I got the same thing, alot of smoke, alot of gas smell, car was bogging and struggling to stay on, 6/10 tries the car will actually turn on when we start it, you need a tune, just tow your car to the tuner and you'll be fine in my opinion.







