does the tq come on differently with the meth?

 

Well there is nothing wrong with more octane, the high the octane rating, the more timing you can run, hence more power you can make.

I would go with what your tuner/builder recommends.

-George
GTM

 

From a combustion standpoint it's just as safe. Methanol lowers the combustion temperature (not as much as water per unit mass, but still quite good) and it also acts as a fuel. So you can get away with injecting less fuel. Methanol cools better than fuel, so the tradeoff is a good one. Water also cools, but it does not burn like methanol or gasoline - all it does is absorb heat. (Yes, I know some chemistry major will say you can burn hydrogen gas, but I have yet to see any proof it is created in WI).

I forget now - what kind of cams and plenum you have Dil? A pressure relief plate is always a good idea with any kind of methanol/nitrous injection. Talk to Joe K. about why the BOV switch for Luie fixed the backfire issue. I'd love to hear his theory on that (or why he decided to try it).

 

I am running a Cosworth and a Scott performance stage 2 cam, with a greddy type rs bov. I also asked Sharif about the backfire issue, he stated that I had nothing to worry about, and the greddy rs would be more than fine. But I was also curious on this matter as well, after seeing what happend to Luie.

 

Oh Yes alot different!.

As far as a meth mix I am always up for new things.

If blowing a plenum is a problem, then yes I guess you can say I had 1 issue.

 

How much are you guys paying for your methanol setups(no labor included) and what kits are you going with.

 

The kit I am running is by Alkycontrol. PM Joe Kenefic put the kit together and with all the parts it around 600 to 700. Joe was the first with this kit, I then had Joe install mine , and I believe Alberto has had Sharif install his. I love it except blowing the plenum but I think that was just a freak ting???? I have gone thru 10 gallons thru my kit.


Luie

 

Thanx.

 

somebody should do a sticky Q & A Thread on meth injection.

 

+1

 

I've been running straight meth since last October. I have not had any issues so far.

 

Isn't there a quite lengthy thread of Meth injection Already?

 

the methanol concept is so simple no need for a extra thread. Plain and simple it acts as a octane booster while also cooling. So you can run a leaner a/f and aggressive timing. Also its cheaper than race gas.

The best bang for the buck great kit is the snow performance kit, if anyone needs one pm me I have a direct supplier on those.

 

are there any possible issues you can run into running meth? how do you monitor your meth reservoir, is there a gauge or do you have to visually check it so often? what if you run out of meth while driving? damn im a noob but im curious.. we really do need a meth FAQ sticky.

 

There's no rust or anything on your parts?

 

A full tank of methanol will last me pry about 2-3 full tanks of gas. I monitor it manually, If you run out you are screwed... and your car can possibly detonate. Each kit comes with a control unit, mine for example acts together with haltech and comes on by it self. All I have to do is turn on the switch, and whe the meth spray's my green indicator light goes off.

Bottom line is always make sure you have enough methanol when running the car hard on your methanol map or else your screwed.

 

http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/

Pretty good info there if you have a lot of (*basic) questions.

*edit

 

AlkyControl FTW

http://www.alkycontrol.com/

Go to Facts and read!!!!!

 

The best Water/Alky setup is the Aqua Mist HFS-5. A lot of the suby and evo guys are using them and have had great success with them. Its probably one of the most advanced setups out there and has many great failsafe features and can run straight meth without corrosion problems.

Here is a FAQ link by Richard Lamb who works for Aquamist
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752282

Here is a link with the description of the unit.
http://www.iaperformance.com/product...oducts_id=2451

 

I believe the reason many run 50/50 is because that mixture isn't considered flammable. Stainless steel lines are not required so costs are lower. If everything is set up properly for 100% meth, it's fine, but I understand your hesitation. I would love to hear Sharif's insight with using 100% meth vs a mix and the potential for backfires. He must have a reason he prefers not to mix - perhaps the uncertainty of the mix with future fill ups? I don't have any experience with methanol, but I'd be worried about the fire hazard also.