XKR Super G... Going for Mach 1
11-03-2009, 05:46 AM
#1942
Thie biggest kick in the nuts is from Mazoo's 1013whp build
"Reaching the 1000rwhp mark did not come without some problems! My Tilton twin disk carbon clutch started slipping right from the beginning. Intense removed it and shipped it to Tilton to have rebuilt. Because I had Intense under a very tight deadline and would not get the Tilton clutch back in time we got a Carbonetics Triple Disc Carbon Clutch so we would not miss the deadline. The Carbonetics clutch started to slip around 970rwhp so we were forced to wait for my Tilton to get back. After the Tilton was back and reinstalled we got the Z back on the Dyno."
https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...oker-350z.html
Mike wasnt even remotely close to that whp. Are there different versions of the triple?
"Reaching the 1000rwhp mark did not come without some problems! My Tilton twin disk carbon clutch started slipping right from the beginning. Intense removed it and shipped it to Tilton to have rebuilt. Because I had Intense under a very tight deadline and would not get the Tilton clutch back in time we got a Carbonetics Triple Disc Carbon Clutch so we would not miss the deadline. The Carbonetics clutch started to slip around 970rwhp so we were forced to wait for my Tilton to get back. After the Tilton was back and reinstalled we got the Z back on the Dyno."
https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...oker-350z.html
Mike wasnt even remotely close to that whp. Are there different versions of the triple?
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11-03-2009, 06:14 AM
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Not sure if Mazoo's was new or what, but Mike did state that his had been in the car since '07 and had gone through the iterations of his 700bb setup and 850bb setups...I have no clue how many miles or how much abouse that is equating too though.
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Thie biggest kick in the nuts is from Mazoo's 1013whp build
"Reaching the 1000rwhp mark did not come without some problems! My Tilton twin disk carbon clutch started slipping right from the beginning. Intense removed it and shipped it to Tilton to have rebuilt. Because I had Intense under a very tight deadline and would not get the Tilton clutch back in time we got a Carbonetics Triple Disc Carbon Clutch so we would not miss the deadline. The Carbonetics clutch started to slip around 970rwhp so we were forced to wait for my Tilton to get back. After the Tilton was back and reinstalled we got the Z back on the Dyno."
https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...oker-350z.html
Mike wasnt even remotely close to that whp. Are there different versions of the triple?
"Reaching the 1000rwhp mark did not come without some problems! My Tilton twin disk carbon clutch started slipping right from the beginning. Intense removed it and shipped it to Tilton to have rebuilt. Because I had Intense under a very tight deadline and would not get the Tilton clutch back in time we got a Carbonetics Triple Disc Carbon Clutch so we would not miss the deadline. The Carbonetics clutch started to slip around 970rwhp so we were forced to wait for my Tilton to get back. After the Tilton was back and reinstalled we got the Z back on the Dyno."
https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...oker-350z.html
Mike wasnt even remotely close to that whp. Are there different versions of the triple?
11-03-2009, 07:01 AM
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I agree lol
go with what we know has worked in the past.
tom
go with what we know has worked in the past.
tom
11-03-2009, 08:18 AM
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To answer all the questions...
The Carbonetics was installed in Oct '07 with the 700bb..... I put a little over 5K miles on it... Some of it was track time.
I switch to the 850bb with zero track time.... It made 700+whp DD with no problems...Matter of fact.. After the 850bb was installed it really sat until I drove it to Zdayz May '09 where we all know one turbo failed.
I was willing to try new discs until I spoke to the Carbonetics people....they said that they have nothing that could get me to what my goals are. 700-750tq DJ is what it will hold MAYBE!!..... So in other words... New or not I am SOL.
I was told my an OS dealer that if the Quad does not make my goal... They would refund all my money.....Eric, Sam . Sharif and a few others told me carbonetics iwould not hold.... So I will move on.
Carbonetics said that they could coat the discs to get me better hold... But Sharif said I had that done to mine. So carbonetics themelves said that their clutch is not made for anything close to my goal.
The Carbonetics was installed in Oct '07 with the 700bb..... I put a little over 5K miles on it... Some of it was track time.
I switch to the 850bb with zero track time.... It made 700+whp DD with no problems...Matter of fact.. After the 850bb was installed it really sat until I drove it to Zdayz May '09 where we all know one turbo failed.
I was willing to try new discs until I spoke to the Carbonetics people....they said that they have nothing that could get me to what my goals are. 700-750tq DJ is what it will hold MAYBE!!..... So in other words... New or not I am SOL.
I was told my an OS dealer that if the Quad does not make my goal... They would refund all my money.....Eric, Sam . Sharif and a few others told me carbonetics iwould not hold.... So I will move on.
Carbonetics said that they could coat the discs to get me better hold... But Sharif said I had that done to mine. So carbonetics themelves said that their clutch is not made for anything close to my goal.
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11-03-2009, 09:06 AM
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..Its crazy how my Carbonetics on my race car has held for years with me beating the crap out of it with 680whp 635TQ with out slipping....but then again....the boost does not come on this hard.
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....Maybe they had the clutch custom built....I bought the best they had and FP installed it straight out of the box without doing anything to it....I dont know....Injected also did not think I would make it from what I am being told....because they could only make 700 whp on their DD with a brand new triple....I wish Hal or Greg would have said something.
.....anyway...the Quad is the last stop for me.
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11-03-2009, 09:10 AM
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11-03-2009, 10:45 AM
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I find it excellent that someone is standing by their claims. But who made that promise, OS the company or GTM (or whereever you are getting it from).
Either way thats a good precident. The future big HP builds will know who's door to knock for a clutch that is 'guaranteed to hold'
Either way thats a good precident. The future big HP builds will know who's door to knock for a clutch that is 'guaranteed to hold'
11-03-2009, 01:11 PM
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of course.... SAADs supra used tilton... well part of the problem was related to whoever installed it first not following instructions....but you didnt see that on the post(mazoos) cause the goal wasnt to throw anybody under the bus, anyways.
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yeah...thats the reason why a few pages back i asked XKR about that, cause yes the carbonetics Mazoo used was new(it was the one going in my car, till i just upgraded before it went in)
of course.... SAADs supra used tilton... well part of the problem was related to whoever installed it first not following instructions....but you didnt see that on the post(mazoos) cause the goal wasnt to throw anybody under the bus, anyways.
of course.... SAADs supra used tilton... well part of the problem was related to whoever installed it first not following instructions....but you didnt see that on the post(mazoos) cause the goal wasnt to throw anybody under the bus, anyways.
11-03-2009, 02:25 PM
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^^^^ thanks Midz:350 for that info....I am being told that the quad is custom Made/order...so I am sure that if the triple can hold 900... I may get lucky
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I sure will..Its crazy how my Carbonetics on my race car has held for years with me beating the crap out of it with 680whp 635TQ with out slipping....but then again....the boost does not come on this hard.
I am only going for the powa level on the DD that will get me 1000DJ
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Nahhh.....The Quad is the last clutch i will be trying..
Yeah...someone sent me that thread....thats why I was thinking I could make atleast 800 TQ on DD....Maybe they had the clutch custom built....I bought the best they had and FP installed it straight out of the box without doing anything to it....I dont know....Injected also did not think I would make it from what I am being told....because they could only make 700 whp on their DD with a brand new triple....I wish Hal or Greg would have said something......anyway...the Quad is the last stop for me.
..Its crazy how my Carbonetics on my race car has held for years with me beating the crap out of it with 680whp 635TQ with out slipping....but then again....the boost does not come on this hard.I am only going for the powa level on the DD that will get me 1000DJ
......Nahhh.....The Quad is the last clutch i will be trying..
Yeah...someone sent me that thread....thats why I was thinking I could make atleast 800 TQ on DD
....Maybe they had the clutch custom built....I bought the best they had and FP installed it straight out of the box without doing anything to it....I dont know....Injected also did not think I would make it from what I am being told....because they could only make 700 whp on their DD with a brand new triple....I wish Hal or Greg would have said something......anyway...the Quad is the last stop for me. 
