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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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some pretty crazy numbers... i know GTM's HR test car made 583 whp @ 14psi. My engine seemed to be putting out a little better numbers than their test car. Wonder with race gas and 14psi what my numbers would look like.
Sorry didnt mean to jump all over your thread just pretty impressed with these numbers and the strength of the engine.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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I keep getting this image in my head about a speed performance shop....can't quite put a finger on it. Doug, I know you know what I'm talking about
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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oh wow, aren't you guys so good, lol I think I posted it up in my other thread, man that was so hard to find wasn't it. You know who I really miss reading his posts was Jeremy from performance factory. Was a good guy.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Don't get testy young man..I'm not bashing you or your shop or High Altitude Videos. I would like to see some vids. Don't make yourself look foolish because you seem to do good work and you know how my350z is, it can bite you in the @ss(even if it is only the internet)
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by coachk
Don't get testy young man..I'm not bashing you or your shop or High Altitude Videos. I would like to see some vids. Don't make yourself look foolish because you seem to do good work and you know how my350z is, it can bite you in the @ss(even if it is only the internet)
Oh I know, i got nothing against you sir. I think I followed your Z build from way back, what got my attention was the fact you were auto. Wanted to see how far you'll take it. Yea I definetly know how my350z works. The reason why I don't post much except every now and then. Time to get to work...
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Let me say this much, I bought a trans from him, had a problem, he was going to fly out here and rebuild it with me... When I cracked it open and saw that it wasn't worth rebuilding he got me another one in two days... I'd say that's pretty stand up right there if you ask me. Even if the numbers are only 380, 474, and 506 corrected, those are still good numbers to have on stock block.

I agree with some of the previous statements also, it's all in the tune, i'm running 430whp and i've got 5000+ miles since the install already and it drives great, not to mention I drive it hard. Others get 375whp and blow up in a 1000 miles, so every situation is different. Sure i'm going to build it at some point, but the bottom line is that if you have a good tuner; forged, ip, intense, pfs and you have all the right mods that work with each other, you will be fine for 450whp and under.

I respect Doug's opinion and the correction is something for the majority us which we want to see, but anyone can do the math and figure it out.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 500HPZ
Doug didnt you blow up a few motors before it finally became right? .
this statement is as ludicrous as you thinking you are making 567 whp.. and the answer to your ridiculous statement is no.. you are 100% incorrect
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 500HPZ
Thats what I needed to know, 586whp who did it? The owner knows there is a risk of the motor blowing up, I didnt tell him it was ok to do. He said lets go for it, once we hit 12psi I sent him a text with the numbers he replied back saying Keep going. Screw the graph, I will post the whole video up soon. With you guys I know we needed a video.
same guy who did it the last time in your first thread

https://my350z.com/forum/6666009-post72.html

you even posted right after it so you can't even say you missed it

https://my350z.com/forum/6878434-post73.html
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by doug
same guy who did it the last time in your first thread

https://my350z.com/forum/6666009-post72.html

you even posted right after it so you can't even say you missed it

https://my350z.com/forum/6878434-post73.html
Ok, I wasnt sure if it was the one or no. Now its cleared. I swear I saw a post of your build with you having issues with motors blowing up. I might have you confused with another guy, if I have time I will look for it. Ok now since you guys got the VQ down so good, you tell me what would a 06 Motor with 10k miles with the greddy 18G kit, 3" true-dual turbo back exhaust, skunk2 composite spacer would make at 14.5psi at the map on Q16. Do you know what q16 is?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Doug would you mind if you send me the link to function tuneds dyno sheet or nowels car making that much, please.

Thank you
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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did the motor blow yet?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Great #'s for sure, that's no joke for up here at 6k feet! Edited post as long post is pointless with the forever debate of correct vs uncorrected.

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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Barnabas
Fixed for you I Thought it was awesome until someone mentioned he was nto at sea level...
Haha iPhone post FTW!!! I could've went back and edited it but I was like eh

Originally Posted by 500HPZ
Ok now since you guys got the VQ down so good, you tell me what would a 06 Motor with 10k miles with the greddy 18G kit, 3" true-dual turbo back exhaust, skunk2 composite spacer would make at 14.5psi at the map on Q16. Do you know what q16 is?
Something I would drink only if I'm feeling suicidal My car would love it though with the right equipment and tune

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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Wooo can't wait to see the video! I'm growing more and more jealous of you FI Z's here in CO...

To the haters - Moe does a lot of work for us locals and builds some absolutely BA cars that actually get abused at the drag strip, road track, and drift lot on a regular basis. Comparing him to MrS is a ridiculous and asinine assumption. Moe has A SHOP, A LICENSE, etc etc. He posted the numbers and the correction factor, so what? He's not here to sell XXXwhp turbo installs with mythical Nismo studs and muffler bearings. His customer wanted to push the limits of the stock RevUP longblock on a Greddy 18g kit running Q16, and that's the info being shared in this thread.

Anyone who hasn't driven a Z at 5000ft elevation has no idea the kind of difference air density makes up here. I bought my Z while I was living in Oregon and shipped it here when I moved to Ft. Collins about a year later. Even after an ECU reset, the car just feels robbed of its original power.

Keep pushing the limits and posting the progress Moe!!!


PS - I heard some rumor about a chassis with Kaizo Industries stamped on it coming to CO, when do we get to find out more info on that??!!!!
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Citrus
Wooo can't wait to see the video! I'm growing more and more jealous of you FI Z's here in CO...

To the haters - Moe does a lot of work for us locals and builds some absolutely BA cars that actually get abused at the drag strip, road track, and drift lot on a regular basis. Comparing him to MrS is a ridiculous and asinine assumption. Moe has A SHOP, A LICENSE, etc etc. He posted the numbers and the correction factor, so what? He's not here to sell XXXwhp turbo installs with mythical Nismo studs and muffler bearings. His customer wanted to push the limits of the stock RevUP longblock on a Greddy 18g kit running Q16, and that's the info being shared in this thread.

Anyone who hasn't driven a Z at 5000ft elevation has no idea the kind of difference air density makes up here. I bought my Z while I was living in Oregon and shipped it here when I moved to Ft. Collins about a year later. Even after an ECU reset, the car just feels robbed of its original power.

Keep pushing the limits and posting the progress Moe!!!


PS - I heard some rumor about a chassis with Kaizo Industries stamped on it coming to CO, when do we get to find out more info on that??!!!!
who is hating? and how are they hating?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 500HPZ
Doug would you mind if you send me the link to function tuneds dyno sheet or nowels car making that much, please.

Thank you
Moe
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...ock-motor.html

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...ck-550whp.html
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Doug, thanks for the links, now I know what numbers to be broken. What I am surprised with is that they were able to do that on 650cc injectors at 18psi, were I was maxing out my 650cc injectors at 16psi. I was seriously close or at 100% duty cycle. I have a spare rev up motor here and if the customer allows me to go further I will. His injectors are 63% duty cycle with 0 counts of knock, I am also wanting to keep in consideration is fuel pressure, I started losing fuel pressure in my wifes car at 620-630whp UNCORRECTED on a single walbro on a 4cyl motor, the Z even spun the tire on the dyno. Sometimes I regret selling my Z, but like I said I picked up a cheap 05 that I will put thro hell again. This whole tuning, forced induction game is old and been done over and over. I just feel bad when i hear someones motor blowing up at such low levels, just reading stories scared me for a little bit, but I had to find out on my own I took the risk and was amazed with the results.

Citrus yes I did pick up a kaizo chassis, should be ready here soon in the coming weeks, I cant wait and thank you for the kind words.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Scott? Is that you again?....You and you're voodoo motors.....

Either that or your customer bought his Z at the mysterious Voodoo Z shop.


Are you really questioning the F:T numbers? why? Believe it...all the stuff is there....UNLIKE IN THIS THREAD.

Why are you so concerned with "beating the numbers"? "Little man syndrome"? Why not be concerned with making your customer happy and leave the motor in the car for him? Multiple reputable tuners/shops have tested this and shown their results. What makes you better or different? Are you saying they're incompetent and their tests were poor?

As someone said before motor failure can be caused by many different things or events. FYI Not just the lack of your Super Amazing tuning skills.

I call BS like others. ESPECIALLY with the air in Denver....I know b/c I actually have driven thru there in my F/I Z.

What dyno are you running this on? Tuning it with a Utec?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Driven1
Scott? Is that you again?....You and you're voodoo motors.....

Either that or your customer bought his Z at the mysterious Voodoo Z shop.


Are you really questioning the F:T numbers? why? Believe it...all the stuff is there....UNLIKE IN THIS THREAD.

Why are you so concerned with "beating the numbers"? "Little man syndrome"? Why not be concerned with making your customer happy and leave the motor in the car for him? Multiple reputable tuners/shops have tested this and shown their results. What makes you better or different? Are you saying they're incompetent and their tests were poor?

As someone said before motor failure can be caused by many different things or events. FYI Not just the lack of your Super Amazing tuning skills.

I call BS like others. ESPECIALLY with the air in Denver....I know b/c I actually have driven thru there in my F/I Z.

What dyno are you running this on? Tuning it with a Utec?
. I thought we were supposed to get videos, but no.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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I got you all beat I ran my stock block at 27 psi and 17:1 a/f. What now !

Needless to say it blew but hey it made sick power for 500 ft.

Wtf does it matter how much u make on a stock block. Its just a ticking time bomb.
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