Longevity of full builds, the good the bad
12-11-2009, 09:43 AM
#102
thanks! finnally someone sees my point..thanks b
This thread is still informative. It has discussions about sleeves, and build longevity. Good information in here. If some noob comes on here and asks a question about building or sleeves then they deserve to get flamed. Anyways...........
Build:
JE Pistons, Eagle Rods, HR Headstuds/Headgasket. Turbonetics kit.
Miles: 8K
Driven about 3 days a week. I always hit boost. Cars been on a couple of road trips also. Car was only tuned on wastegate (car wasn't a priority apparently to the tuner) only made 367hp @8psi. Car has since then been setup for 12psi. Haven't been able to get to a dyno to checkout the numbers. Only problems I have are the car sometimes smokes leaving from a stop light. Also had a very small puddle of coolant under the car a few months back. Looked over everything and couldn't find the leak. Car hasn't looked coolant since then.
Build:
JE Pistons, Eagle Rods, HR Headstuds/Headgasket. Turbonetics kit.
Miles: 8K
Driven about 3 days a week. I always hit boost. Cars been on a couple of road trips also. Car was only tuned on wastegate (car wasn't a priority apparently to the tuner) only made 367hp @8psi. Car has since then been setup for 12psi. Haven't been able to get to a dyno to checkout the numbers. Only problems I have are the car sometimes smokes leaving from a stop light. Also had a very small puddle of coolant under the car a few months back. Looked over everything and couldn't find the leak. Car hasn't looked coolant since then.
12-11-2009, 09:45 AM
#104
AlwaysnBoost-it seems your mind has been made up for you.
Good luck with your future build, go ahead and do sleeves. Mine couldnt survive at 525whp or 605whp, 750+whp + sleeves + somewhat daily driven car = failure.
You are basically saying that VTR doesnt have sleeve issues, and and are asking why other do.
Look at the RESULTS of many shops and builds that have had no success with sleeves.
You are willing to look past that because you get a verbal guarantee from a shop who claims other shops dont know what they are doing? Good luck with it...your turning your head to the problems.
Good luck with your future build, go ahead and do sleeves. Mine couldnt survive at 525whp or 605whp, 750+whp + sleeves + somewhat daily driven car = failure.
You are basically saying that VTR doesnt have sleeve issues, and and are asking why other do.
Look at the RESULTS of many shops and builds that have had no success with sleeves.
You are willing to look past that because you get a verbal guarantee from a shop who claims other shops dont know what they are doing? Good luck with it...your turning your head to the problems.
12-11-2009, 09:47 AM
#105
or did you just miss where i said i don't race cars anymore anyway.. if you really want to run cars at E-Town.. i will make the trip out so you can shut your fat mouth.. but talk to me when your car is done.. we know how Vinny loves them 4 year builds
Last edited by doug; 12-11-2009 at 09:48 AM.
12-11-2009, 09:58 AM
#106
NO more z why are you even on the forums... second you know nothing about my car and if its done or not(keep assuming you know everything lol) u want me to race you're bike wow now I know you know nothing lol. Doug just continue keeping you're award "douchebag of the year" you deserve it!!! and pissing off internet nerds daily YOU ARE THE NERD!
12-11-2009, 10:05 AM
#108
AlwaysnBoost-it seems your mind has been made up for you. It's been made up for a long time...
Good luck with your future build, go ahead and do sleeves. Mine couldnt survive at 525whp or 605whp, 750+whp + sleeves + somewhat daily driven car = failure. I feel you're pain bro but can't turn back the hands of time gl with you're future build
You are basically saying that VTR doesnt have sleeve issues, and and are asking why other do. I have not seen any if someone that had one of vinnys motors built with sleeves or without and has blown up please post something you wont be flammed!
Look at the RESULTS of many shops and builds that have had no success with sleeves. So just because every other shop hasn't figured it out isnt it safe to say that maybe he might be the answer we are looking for or should we assure that all engine builders build the same way and have no differences, all I m asking is why has no one else figured out the root of the problem but every thread like this one gets pulled in a different directions by internet thugs.
You are willing to look past that because you get a verbal guarantee from a shop who claims other shops dont know what they are doing? Good luck with it...your turning your head to the problems.
Good luck with your future build, go ahead and do sleeves. Mine couldnt survive at 525whp or 605whp, 750+whp + sleeves + somewhat daily driven car = failure. I feel you're pain bro but can't turn back the hands of time gl with you're future build
You are basically saying that VTR doesnt have sleeve issues, and and are asking why other do. I have not seen any if someone that had one of vinnys motors built with sleeves or without and has blown up please post something you wont be flammed!
Look at the RESULTS of many shops and builds that have had no success with sleeves. So just because every other shop hasn't figured it out isnt it safe to say that maybe he might be the answer we are looking for or should we assure that all engine builders build the same way and have no differences, all I m asking is why has no one else figured out the root of the problem but every thread like this one gets pulled in a different directions by internet thugs.
You are willing to look past that because you get a verbal guarantee from a shop who claims other shops dont know what they are doing? Good luck with it...your turning your head to the problems.
Last edited by AlwaysNBoost; 12-11-2009 at 10:07 AM.
12-11-2009, 10:10 AM
#110
If your mind is so made up, and you truly believe what your tuner/builder is telling you, then why did you PM me asking for my opinions? Why do you seem to care what anybody thinks about sleeves....your mind is set.
You have these preconceived notions that stem from no where else other than what VTR has told you. You have failed to post proof of a stock block car failing to warrant sleeves. Your 650+whp needs sleeves, and the stock sleeves fail ideas are coming from where?
Didnt it ever occur to you having a shop do sleeves isnt neccessarily looking out for your own good but is a way to make more $$$ on machining, install, and slightly more labor?
You have these preconceived notions that stem from no where else other than what VTR has told you. You have failed to post proof of a stock block car failing to warrant sleeves. Your 650+whp needs sleeves, and the stock sleeves fail ideas are coming from where?
Didnt it ever occur to you having a shop do sleeves isnt neccessarily looking out for your own good but is a way to make more $$$ on machining, install, and slightly more labor?
Last edited by Alberto; 12-11-2009 at 10:11 AM.
12-11-2009, 10:10 AM
#112
NO more z why are you even on the forums... second you know nothing about my car and if its done or not(keep assuming you know everything lol) u want me to race you're bike wow now I know you know nothing lol. Doug just continue keeping you're award "douchebag of the year" you deserve it!!! and pissing off internet nerds daily YOU ARE THE NERD!
anyway.. as i said.. run your car .. not your mouth.. and if you feel your car could ever beat any bike i'm on.. now i know you're really sniffing that white powder
again.. since i might have lost you.. when your car is ready to run.. let me know... till then.. shut up and keep reading
12-11-2009, 10:14 AM
#113
let me know if there is anything else i can get for you
12-11-2009, 10:34 AM
#114
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...ed-thread.html
let me know if there is anything else i can get for you
let me know if there is anything else i can get for you
I think Alberto put the finishing touches on that thread, so I didn't reply. BTW stuff like that doesn't bother me, when somebody does it to you, it clearly bothers you though.
I will just keep reading now, I want to learn from the greatest. Please tell all, I have my pen/paper ready.
Last edited by BoostedProbe; 12-11-2009 at 10:35 AM.
12-11-2009, 11:11 AM
#116
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My build is still young...but no issues since the day it rolled out of the shop
1. Time (months) on built motor: 4 Months
2. Miles on built motor: ~ 4000 miles
3. HP, TQ, PSI (all three): 550WHP 480WTQ @ 13.4 psi APS Extreme TT
4. Who built the motor (optional): Motor built by Cosworth, heads by Port Flow, installed by Corner 3 Garage, and tuned by Technosquare
1. Time (months) on built motor: 4 Months
2. Miles on built motor: ~ 4000 miles
3. HP, TQ, PSI (all three): 550WHP 480WTQ @ 13.4 psi APS Extreme TT
4. Who built the motor (optional): Motor built by Cosworth, heads by Port Flow, installed by Corner 3 Garage, and tuned by Technosquare
12-11-2009, 11:23 AM
#117
I didn't say i didn't have a Z.. i said i don't race it.. i see you north jersey boys have reading comprehension problems.. probably all that gell.. anyway.. i never said i knew anything about your car.. i said when its done.. let me know so i can come down to E-Town.. yes usually when the douchebag reference comes out it means the person has lost the argument..
anyway.. as i said.. run your car .. not your mouth.. and if you feel your car could ever beat any bike i'm on.. now i know you're really sniffing that white powder
again.. since i might have lost you.. when your car is ready to run.. let me know... till then.. shut up and keep reading
anyway.. as i said.. run your car .. not your mouth.. and if you feel your car could ever beat any bike i'm on.. now i know you're really sniffing that white powder
again.. since i might have lost you.. when your car is ready to run.. let me know... till then.. shut up and keep reading
12-11-2009, 11:26 AM
#118
the humor in all this is that you have the same internet personality as julian did. Doug wish you the best of luck. Stop talking about cars and bikes clown comparing apples to oranges. Have fun with the plastic bikes been there done that! On to other things now. Have fun on two wheels Douchebag! And yes i lost the arguement
12-11-2009, 11:27 AM
#119
If your mind is so made up, and you truly believe what your tuner/builder is telling you, then why did you PM me asking for my opinions? Why do you seem to care what anybody thinks about sleeves....your mind is set.
You have these preconceived notions that stem from no where else other than what VTR has told you. You have failed to post proof of a stock block car failing to warrant sleeves. Your 650+whp needs sleeves, and the stock sleeves fail ideas are coming from where?
Didnt it ever occur to you having a shop do sleeves isnt neccessarily looking out for your own good but is a way to make more $$$ on machining, install, and slightly more labor?
You have these preconceived notions that stem from no where else other than what VTR has told you. You have failed to post proof of a stock block car failing to warrant sleeves. Your 650+whp needs sleeves, and the stock sleeves fail ideas are coming from where?
Didnt it ever occur to you having a shop do sleeves isnt neccessarily looking out for your own good but is a way to make more $$$ on machining, install, and slightly more labor?
12-11-2009, 11:31 AM
#120
Ok Bert, answer this question for me? Forget about if sleeves are needed or not Forget about how much they cost and if a shop is making more money. IF they are installed (correctly) Do you think they will work fine yes or no? If no let me ask you why you come to you're opinion thats all I wanna know?