My HKS S/C Installation
08-20-2010, 08:03 PM
#484
LOL.. Well that pipe in the Pic will work, but it will not go all the way to the SC current intake. The Pipe in the Pic is for GTM's De TT kit.
I have been looking do build the intake for a while because I hate the HKS filter. It's total POS. I was looking at the GTM TT kit and Bam. It it fell in to place. So I called up my local Fab'er and he said no prob. We are building it out of of 3" aluminum and it will go all the way to the current Sc intake pipe.
I am glad you guys like my ideas because I was not sure at first. I am just looking to improve the HKS kit a bit. I will keep you all informed of the progress as it unfolds.
I may take some time off next week before I leave to LA for the weekend. Maybe we can get it built. ITOzann I will talk to my Fab'er guy and see about getting you one built too. The quote he gave me was between $150-$200. He is suppling all the Pipe.
Happy drinking. LOL (Currently drinking Crown an 7)
Last edited by cdoxp800; 08-20-2010 at 08:10 PM.
08-20-2010, 09:18 PM
#485
Hey guys been a while since I posted in here do to some projects I have been working.
So take I talked with Sam about a few of my ideas and he cannot see any issues with them.
1. I plan to relocate the MAF out of the HKS Suction Pipe (Currently using PMAS Here) and moving it up by the throttle body and using the OEM MAF (New 3" section added to existing Pipe). By doing this the ECU will see a truer air intake Temp and less turbulent air. This will let me run my OEM MAF. The current location of the MAF is seeing allot of Hot air from the engine Bay and passes this to the ECU, but the true temp of the Air after the intercooler is much cooler and not being take advantage of in the tuning.
See below Pic:
2. I plan on building a New Intake for the SC itself to get a way from the garbage HKS filter and moving it to a cooler air location. I plan on using a Apexi filter (Part #: 500-A024). I chose this filter because if this review.
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
Intake Sample Pic:
I feel all these changes will help better the performance of the HKS kit. It's going to take few weeks to get all this made because of work, and then a whole re-tune.
So take I talked with Sam about a few of my ideas and he cannot see any issues with them.
1. I plan to relocate the MAF out of the HKS Suction Pipe (Currently using PMAS Here) and moving it up by the throttle body and using the OEM MAF (New 3" section added to existing Pipe). By doing this the ECU will see a truer air intake Temp and less turbulent air. This will let me run my OEM MAF. The current location of the MAF is seeing allot of Hot air from the engine Bay and passes this to the ECU, but the true temp of the Air after the intercooler is much cooler and not being take advantage of in the tuning.
See below Pic:
2. I plan on building a New Intake for the SC itself to get a way from the garbage HKS filter and moving it to a cooler air location. I plan on using a Apexi filter (Part #: 500-A024). I chose this filter because if this review.
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
Intake Sample Pic:
I feel all these changes will help better the performance of the HKS kit. It's going to take few weeks to get all this made because of work, and then a whole re-tune.
How do you plan on plugging the hole where the maf originally was placed on the cast intake piece?
The kit's top intercooler piping is ~2.3". Your custom top intercooler piping will be 3", so you will make a 60-80mm transition from the bottom piece intercooler piping to the top piping instead of from the top piping to the throttle body making the 60-80 mm transition?
08-20-2010, 09:35 PM
#487
On the G kit, the intake is in a cold air location below the engine, near the driver wheelwell. There should be much more clearance room. I have a ARC intake filter from when I was N/A:
, I wonder if that will work? The filtration abilities is most shocking if the test linked above is accurate. The HKS SC instructions even call for changing filter elements every ~1900 miles for best performance--that's ridiculous.
08-21-2010, 12:55 AM
#488
Not really, I've been trying different custom ghetto intake pipes and air filters. I can't handle it anymore.
The filters that you tried, did they at lease fit into the intake piping? What size/brands did you try? Was it just that you didn't have enough clearance to fit, but they physically connected to the intake pipe?
On the G kit, the intake is in a cold air location below the engine, near the driver wheelwell. There should be much more clearance room. I have a ARC intake filter from when I was N/A:
, I wonder if that will work? The filtration abilities is most shocking if the test linked above is accurate. The HKS SC instructions even call for changing filter elements every ~1900 miles for best performance--that's ridiculous.
On the G kit, the intake is in a cold air location below the engine, near the driver wheelwell. There should be much more clearance room. I have a ARC intake filter from when I was N/A:
, I wonder if that will work? The filtration abilities is most shocking if the test linked above is accurate. The HKS SC instructions even call for changing filter elements every ~1900 miles for best performance--that's ridiculous.
The following was my first idea when I got the kit and got it tuned since I couldn't get the air filter to work in the original position. After removing it and getting it retuned, there was a lost in power of about 7-10whp LOL
jonnylaw, is the arc smaller than the hks mashroom? I heard from some local shops in my area that the hks mushroom is the smaller in the market
Last edited by ITOzann; 08-21-2010 at 12:59 AM.
08-21-2010, 01:17 AM
#490
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Hey cdox, i wouldn't pay too much attention to that filter test they did. I heard a lot of people say it was a joke and that the results are not very accurate. I persoanlly don't know, but that's what i've read on a few different forums.
Also bear in mind that since that test, HKS has brought out new filter material designs, and Apex'i has been bankrupt and changed owner twice, so a lot might have changed.
Also bear in mind that since that test, HKS has brought out new filter material designs, and Apex'i has been bankrupt and changed owner twice, so a lot might have changed.
08-21-2010, 06:10 AM
#494
You are using osiris for tune, correct? Those that are using vpro or other ems with map will not have to worry about the maf issue for tuning as the map is reading intake temp. Also, what about the GTM upgraded AIT sensor?
How do you plan on plugging the hole where the maf originally was placed on the cast intake piece?
The kit's top intercooler piping is ~2.3". Your custom top intercooler piping will be 3", so you will make a 60-80mm transition from the bottom piece intercooler piping to the top piping instead of from the top piping to the throttle body making the 60-80 mm transition?
How do you plan on plugging the hole where the maf originally was placed on the cast intake piece?
The kit's top intercooler piping is ~2.3". Your custom top intercooler piping will be 3", so you will make a 60-80mm transition from the bottom piece intercooler piping to the top piping instead of from the top piping to the throttle body making the 60-80 mm transition?
The GTM upgraded AIT sensor is a great idea for those using MAP sensor.
Yea we will be building some kind of transition pipe just after where the BPV is at.
08-21-2010, 06:12 AM
#495
your are correct, that could be done with a coupler.
Thanks man. I am also looking at the K&N RE-0930 and RU-3580.
Hey cdox, i wouldn't pay too much attention to that filter test they did. I heard a lot of people say it was a joke and that the results are not very accurate. I persoanlly don't know, but that's what i've read on a few different forums.
Also bear in mind that since that test, HKS has brought out new filter material designs, and Apex'i has been bankrupt and changed owner twice, so a lot might have changed.
Also bear in mind that since that test, HKS has brought out new filter material designs, and Apex'i has been bankrupt and changed owner twice, so a lot might have changed.
Last edited by cdoxp800; 08-21-2010 at 06:13 AM.
08-21-2010, 09:41 AM
#497
tahnk you sir! the price sounds good!
Not really, I've been trying different custom ghetto intake pipes and air filters. I can't handle it anymore.
Since day 1, the hks filter would not fit due to clearance with my radiator. I tried angled couplers and it would still not work. If there is something smaller than the hks mushroom, it might work in my case. Bu if not, then anything else would not including Fujita, K&N, AEM, Injen intakes
The following was my first idea when I got the kit and got it tuned since I couldn't get the air filter to work in the original position. After removing it and getting it retuned, there was a lost in power of about 7-10whp LOL
jonnylaw, is the arc smaller than the hks mashroom? I heard from some local shops in my area that the hks mushroom is the smaller in the market
Not really, I've been trying different custom ghetto intake pipes and air filters. I can't handle it anymore.
Since day 1, the hks filter would not fit due to clearance with my radiator. I tried angled couplers and it would still not work. If there is something smaller than the hks mushroom, it might work in my case. Bu if not, then anything else would not including Fujita, K&N, AEM, Injen intakes
The following was my first idea when I got the kit and got it tuned since I couldn't get the air filter to work in the original position. After removing it and getting it retuned, there was a lost in power of about 7-10whp LOL
jonnylaw, is the arc smaller than the hks mashroom? I heard from some local shops in my area that the hks mushroom is the smaller in the market
08-21-2010, 01:01 PM
#498
I had the green one. is the purple suppose to be smaller?
NICE! thanks for the info
they fit all tight making contact with radiator but the filters would not align with the intake pipe by about an inch or two. Also I tried angled coupler and it would not help in any way 
Last edited by ITOzann; 08-21-2010 at 01:03 PM.
08-21-2010, 05:26 PM
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Looking good. I like what your thinking with the Air filter placement. I my-self was thinking of getting a Pipe made to do just that. This way I don't have to run that poor HKS Filtration system. I would like to run Apexi filter after seeing this.
http://mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
So what Engine management system you going to be using?
http://mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
So what Engine management system you going to be using?
Replacement Filter Elements
HKS replacement Filter Elements are available in a dry 3-layer, triple density or wet 2-layer, dual density construction. The dry 3-layer type is standard in SMF Reloaded Intake kits, and is designed for superior filtration while still providing excellent airflow. The wet 2-layer type is included in Racing Suction kits and is focused on maximizing airflow for performance, yet still keeping harmful particles from the engine. If your vehicle is in a high dust area, HKS recommends using dry 3-layer elements.
HKS replacement Filter Elements are available in a dry 3-layer, triple density or wet 2-layer, dual density construction. The dry 3-layer type is standard in SMF Reloaded Intake kits, and is designed for superior filtration while still providing excellent airflow. The wet 2-layer type is included in Racing Suction kits and is focused on maximizing airflow for performance, yet still keeping harmful particles from the engine. If your vehicle is in a high dust area, HKS recommends using dry 3-layer elements.
Last edited by Gabe35Coupe; 08-21-2010 at 05:31 PM.