Forged Performance - My Story
04-20-2010, 06:04 AM
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I'm not trying to make a name for myself on a "internet forum" I have a life princess. If you don't care then why did you comment? This is a public forum, where I am free to express any statements per the rules and regulations of this site and so are you. Never the less, I find your comment to be highly laughable. Do you own Forged Performance or have a vested interest in the company? If so, then I can understand your comment, but it just goes back to the non-customer service that the orginal poster stated. In cases like this, you want to regain the public's confidence in your company's goods and services. Instead you make stupid comments about not caring if someone visits a shop. You forget, if "retards" like me don't visit the shop, you have no business. The internet and public forums are a very powerful marketing tool, especially when it comes to the tuner market. Be careful what you say on these forums, it has a very strange way of coming back and biting you in the ***.
04-20-2010, 06:11 AM
#302
Just for the record, I have not been aware of any intentional wrong doing. In the past few days there has been much innuendo, but I have not seen any proof that documents malicious or nefarious intent.
The wrong turbo being put onto a car when the ordering part # is the same across multiple customers' invoices can be understood (if not forgiven), when the turbos in question look identical except for a marking that cannot be seen once the turbo is mounted in the car. (Not providing an excuse, just an explanation of how it could happen without ill intent).
I also won't turn my back on a shop that has done so much for me and this community. I do sincerely hope that there will be changes for the better and that the customer will always remain the #1 priority, even if it means swallowing some pride and investing some money to make it happen...
The wrong turbo being put onto a car when the ordering part # is the same across multiple customers' invoices can be understood (if not forgiven), when the turbos in question look identical except for a marking that cannot be seen once the turbo is mounted in the car. (Not providing an excuse, just an explanation of how it could happen without ill intent).
I also won't turn my back on a shop that has done so much for me and this community. I do sincerely hope that there will be changes for the better and that the customer will always remain the #1 priority, even if it means swallowing some pride and investing some money to make it happen...
04-20-2010, 06:31 AM
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The wrong turbo being put onto a car when the ordering part # is the same across multiple customers' invoices can be understood (if not forgiven), when the turbos in question look identical except for a marking that cannot be seen once the turbo is mounted in the car. (Not providing an excuse, just an explanation of how it could happen without ill intent).
You are right that is not ill intent that is incompetence.
04-20-2010, 06:35 AM
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I received some more info and pictures from a name I will not mention.....all I will say is ...he/she is not a regular on here....
I am sure this will all come out soon....so let me say this in advance. Usually when things start to fall apart...it does so very quickly. Look at Tiger Woods.....he screws a few ******.....but more ****** that he has never seen come out of no where claiming that they were also screwed....I hope you get my point.
I have seen the pictures and the bills that proves the point. Yes it's shocking.....I am quite sure that Sharif knows what he needs to do to get back his good name.....he does not need me to tell him.
I just want to let other shops that serve this community know that they too are also put on notice.....because if a shop like FP can have issues like this.....I am sure I don't have to say more.
Like I said before...this can only help future customers get what they have paid for.....transparency is the way I see it now.
I will not discuss anything further about FP f-ups or what I now know.....If the discussion is what they can do to clean up ...then I am in. But the point has been made.
I am sure this will all come out soon....so let me say this in advance. Usually when things start to fall apart...it does so very quickly. Look at Tiger Woods.....he screws a few ******.....but more ****** that he has never seen come out of no where claiming that they were also screwed....I hope you get my point.
I have seen the pictures and the bills that proves the point. Yes it's shocking.....I am quite sure that Sharif knows what he needs to do to get back his good name.....he does not need me to tell him.
I just want to let other shops that serve this community know that they too are also put on notice.....because if a shop like FP can have issues like this.....I am sure I don't have to say more.
Like I said before...this can only help future customers get what they have paid for.....transparency is the way I see it now.
I will not discuss anything further about FP f-ups or what I now know.....If the discussion is what they can do to clean up ...then I am in. But the point has been made.
Yes....I have had issues with time lines before and have mentioned that taking on too many cars will only **** off customers. On my car I expect whoever started it to finish it....
On another note..... I don't want members to think that I am turning my back on him.....I am not that kind of a person to turn my back on a friend when he has problems.
I am about to buy a new car made by Nissan... And have another joint venture between FP and GTM..... Pic of every stage will be posted on schedule.
The catch is.... He will sign a contract that car will be finished on a selected date or labor is free.
Some say ego is an issue... Some say greed.... I feel life experiences can change people.
On another note..... I don't want members to think that I am turning my back on him.....I am not that kind of a person to turn my back on a friend when he has problems.
I am about to buy a new car made by Nissan... And have another joint venture between FP and GTM..... Pic of every stage will be posted on schedule.
The catch is.... He will sign a contract that car will be finished on a selected date or labor is free.
Some say ego is an issue... Some say greed.... I feel life experiences can change people.
Seeing your posts this morning reminded me of a point Jeffie effectively made earlier in this thread...
True character and integrity are defined by what a person does when the world isn't watching.As the leader of the Recon Unit, you didn't show Scott Bush, Mark Gust, or JT the same consideration and willingness to forgive. After multiple victims came forward, you didn't express such eagerness for us to give those guys a second chance to redeem themselves and become a better shop. Once multiple victims came forward, you chased Scott Bush to the ends of the earth. Yet it's all different when Sharif is the accused?
It's truly sad and disappointing to see you so blinded by friendship and your affiliation with Forged.
04-20-2010, 06:44 AM
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There is a big difference between RA and FP, and the responses posted by Scott and Sharif. As the supporter of another shop, you're not completely unbiased here so stop coming across as the high and mighty saviour of the VQ FI community. If this community loses a good shop, only other shops benefit. The community loses as they have fewer options available to them.
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04-20-2010, 06:46 AM
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When a customers asks a shop owner multiple times to check the turbo that was ordered, shipped, delivered AND installed, AND you fail to take those concerns seriously there is no excuse. Not to mention he even had the supplier involved. For FP to just assume it was correct is beyond me.
You are right that is not ill intent that is incompetence.
You are right that is not ill intent that is incompetence.
04-20-2010, 06:58 AM
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You mean were not turncoats and cowards. I'll take that. Care to clarify any inaccuracies, please feel free, but baseless, petty comments are best left unwritten. You want to attack FP supporters for wanting their shop to do better? Your perogative - hope it makes you feel better.
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04-20-2010, 07:05 AM
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Yes call me a turncoat because somebody was incompitent enough to not get things done correctly, for numerous people, on numerous builds myself included. Call me a turncoat because I refuse to be treated that way and pay $10K+ for those services. My issues are nothing to the crap being posted and not posted by others, picstures are worth 1000 words and many people have tons of em.
I dont stay on ships as they sink, I told Mike @ AAM that before he even touched my car, I essentially told Sharif that the last time we spoke.
I dont stay on ships as they sink, I told Mike @ AAM that before he even touched my car, I essentially told Sharif that the last time we spoke.
04-20-2010, 07:07 AM
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While I agree with this statement, I think you are being too hard on Mike. I think he's seen the positive side of things (as many FP customers have) and it's only human nature to hope for the best. You want to bury FP for the incidents that have come to light? So be it. That's your perogative and opinion, but give others the room to at least have their own perspective. Why do you have to railroad everyone into agreeing with you?
04-20-2010, 07:10 AM
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Yes call me a turncoat because somebody was incompitent enough to not get things done correctly, for numerous people, on numerous builds myself included. Call me a turncoat because I refuse to be treated that way and pay $10K+ for those services. My issues are nothing to the crap being posted and not posted by others, picstures are worth 1000 words and many people have tons of em.
I dont stay on ships as they sink, I told Mike @ AAM that before he even touched my car, I essentially told Sharif that the last time we spoke.
I dont stay on ships as they sink, I told Mike @ AAM that before he even touched my car, I essentially told Sharif that the last time we spoke.
04-20-2010, 07:18 AM
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Yes call me a turncoat because somebody was incompitent enough to not get things done correctly, for numerous people, on numerous builds myself included. Call me a turncoat because I refuse to be treated that way and pay $10K+ for those services. My issues are nothing to the crap being posted and not posted by others, picstures are worth 1000 words and many people have tons of em.
I dont stay on ships as they sink, I told Mike @ AAM that before he even touched my car, I essentially told Sharif that the last time we spoke.
I dont stay on ships as they sink, I told Mike @ AAM that before he even touched my car, I essentially told Sharif that the last time we spoke.
04-20-2010, 07:49 AM
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While I agree with this statement, I think you are being too hard on Mike. I think he's seen the positive side of things (as many FP customers have) and it's only human nature to hope for the best. You want to bury FP for the incidents that have come to light? So be it. That's your perogative and opinion, but give others the room to at least have their own perspective. Why do you have to railroad everyone into agreeing with you?
There is a big difference between RA and FP, and the responses posted by Scott and Sharif. As the supporter of another shop, you're not completely unbiased here so stop coming across as the high and mighty saviour of the VQ FI community. If this community loses a good shop, only other shops benefit. The community loses as they have fewer options available to them.
There is a big difference between RA and FP, and the responses posted by Scott and Sharif. As the supporter of another shop, you're not completely unbiased here so stop coming across as the high and mighty saviour of the VQ FI community. If this community loses a good shop, only other shops benefit. The community loses as they have fewer options available to them.
Even RA/SGP/VRT/JT had customers with good experiences and u guys killed them, so y the double standard now? Why werent they allowed to have their own perspective heard (ur own words)?
im just sayin..........
04-20-2010, 07:55 AM
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I think it's understandable that a customer's first instinct is to stick by the shop that has done them right in the past. While I certainly believe that these incidents prove a pattern of unsupervised and rushed work, I can't exactly place Sharif in the same category as Mark Gust, Mr.A, JT, and Scott Bush just yet.
04-20-2010, 07:56 AM
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When a customers asks a shop owner multiple times to check the turbo that was ordered, shipped, delivered AND installed, AND you fail to take those concerns seriously there is no excuse. Not to mention he even had the supplier involved. For FP to just assume it was correct is beyond me.
You are right that is not ill intent that is incompetence.
You are right that is not ill intent that is incompetence.
theres NO EXCUSES for that one. I dont care what invoice/order number etc. was used to order.
04-20-2010, 07:59 AM
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I think RUDE is just stating that its a double standard. I have to agree with him. You guys roasted the nuts off other shops, but this you guys handle with care/excuses. Be firm clear down the line with all bias put aside.
Even RA/SGP/VRT/JT had customers with good experiences and u guys killed them, so y the double standard now? Why werent they allowed to have their own perspective heard (ur own words)?
im just sayin..........
Even RA/SGP/VRT/JT had customers with good experiences and u guys killed them, so y the double standard now? Why werent they allowed to have their own perspective heard (ur own words)?
im just sayin..........
FWIW, I wonder why this community has had so much trouble with performance shops. Could be my imagination, but I see a trend here.