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06-17-2010, 12:43 PM
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I have followed your builds since the beginning and it scares me to change from a stock block TT that has run perfectly for about three years to a built TT. Luckily I am i the middle of building a different car right now, but when that is done I wanted to revisit the Z and make it go faster.
06-17-2010, 01:43 PM
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I have followed your builds since the beginning and it scares me to change from a stock block TT that has run perfectly for about three years to a built TT. Luckily I am i the middle of building a different car right now, but when that is done I wanted to revisit the Z and make it go faster.
cracked oil pump housing? how high are you spinning this thing?
I got the hood, plenum, catch can, coils, intake, hood latch and BOV removed so far. Just going real slow and labeling things as I take them off. Hoping to get the bulk of the front off tomorrow, I have to buy a better jack first to get the car higher in the air.
Hey Robbie
But pretty sure that still had oil pressure 
06-18-2010, 04:15 AM
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Wow....I too find it hard to believe you did not have an oil cooler
Bad boy Chris 
it may not be as bad as most are thinking....keep us updated.
Bad boy Chris it may not be as bad as most are thinking....keep us updated.
06-18-2010, 06:11 AM
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Chris. I know you were disgusted with your car at the strip. Truly disappointing to dump all that coin and not be FAST! But you will work this out. Hopefully its not as expensive as you have already committed to in your mind.
Good luck bro.
If your considering other turbo options...Hal's got a killer set-up. I support the change!
Good luck bro.
If your considering other turbo options...Hal's got a killer set-up. I support the change!
06-18-2010, 09:49 AM
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I dont run an oil cooler either but the air temps here haven't even hit 71degF yet and my car has see zero track time, mostly hiway miles. A cooler is in my future though.
PS Chris got the new firm ware update this morning car drives much better now
and I got some timing pulled to get rid of the knock I had at 16.5psi and 5800rpm 
but the air temps here haven't even hit 71degF yet and my car has see zero track time, mostly hiway miles. A cooler is in my future though. PS Chris got the new firm ware update this morning car drives much better now
and I got some timing pulled to get rid of the knock I had at 16.5psi and 5800rpm
06-18-2010, 12:07 PM
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why would that be needed for his build and power?
I am also not willing to fixiate on the lack of oil cooler either just yet as it woudl be "cleaver" to deflect attention from what could be the issue....does chris have a radiator or some other cooling mod?...if its considered "critical" and not very expensive, why wasnt it suggested before? ...since its in hingsight, fyi i say this NOT to point finger down that they never botherd to do it, but jsut that they probably didnt expect that to be such as issue with heat temps....which again coudl still point to something else then..
Anyways chris...i seriously didnt expect this thread to be about this issues man....i hope you get them solved (again) and that they are not as bad as expected. Good luck on the DIY project though, and at least i like that you are thinking ahead with bigger a turbo.
I am also not willing to fixiate on the lack of oil cooler either just yet as it woudl be "cleaver" to deflect attention from what could be the issue....does chris have a radiator or some other cooling mod?...if its considered "critical" and not very expensive, why wasnt it suggested before? ...since its in hingsight, fyi i say this NOT to point finger down that they never botherd to do it, but jsut that they probably didnt expect that to be such as issue with heat temps....which again coudl still point to something else then..
Anyways chris...i seriously didnt expect this thread to be about this issues man....i hope you get them solved (again) and that they are not as bad as expected. Good luck on the DIY project though, and at least i like that you are thinking ahead with bigger a turbo.
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06-18-2010, 01:36 PM
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I wouldn't underestimate how critical heat management is for FI. I thought XKR was nuts for insisting on 2 oil coolers when he had his car built. Running a thermostatic adapter and the largest cooler you can fit is what I'd recommend now. It sucks having to shut down because you're worried about climbing temps. It's worse not knowing and pushing on...
If you've got temp gauges and they tell you you're ok, that's one thing. Assuming you're fine is another. I've had my coolant temp below 185 and my oil temp over 230, depending on driving conditions, so relying on your standard temp gauge to tell you everything is ok might not be prudent.
Billet girdle and main caps is to maintain bearing clearances under high rpm load. 8k rpm rev limiter qualifies.
Next thing I would consider Chris is Evans coolant, if you're not already using it. I think both around the cylinders and around the turbo, it can be a life saver by preventing steam formation.
If you've got temp gauges and they tell you you're ok, that's one thing. Assuming you're fine is another. I've had my coolant temp below 185 and my oil temp over 230, depending on driving conditions, so relying on your standard temp gauge to tell you everything is ok might not be prudent.
Billet girdle and main caps is to maintain bearing clearances under high rpm load. 8k rpm rev limiter qualifies.
Next thing I would consider Chris is Evans coolant, if you're not already using it. I think both around the cylinders and around the turbo, it can be a life saver by preventing steam formation.
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06-19-2010, 06:17 AM
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Checking in... I've been under the car most of the day Gord 
I was unaware that an oil cooler was required, its not like I live in TX or AZ, but the difference was I was using the Z as my DD since I loaned my truck to a friend. I continue to learn lessons the hard way and can only hope I will serve as an example for the community of how to avoid fail.
Got down to the AC condenser, need to get the quick release tools today and then I'm at the front of the motor. I've been working real slow and labeling everything so I know what goes where and how.
A couple tablespoons of oil in the drivers side of the IC, but no more than that. Coolant was clean and intake was clean as well. I'm sore as ***** from crawling around on the concrete all day, I could afford to by a lift if this stupid car would quit breaking.
Mike and Gord, thanks for the PMs. Mike, I need to see what I have going on here and then will get back to you. Gord, keep at it, but be careful.
I was unaware that an oil cooler was required, its not like I live in TX or AZ, but the difference was I was using the Z as my DD since I loaned my truck to a friend. I continue to learn lessons the hard way and can only hope I will serve as an example for the community of how to avoid fail.
Got down to the AC condenser, need to get the quick release tools today and then I'm at the front of the motor. I've been working real slow and labeling everything so I know what goes where and how.
A couple tablespoons of oil in the drivers side of the IC, but no more than that. Coolant was clean and intake was clean as well. I'm sore as ***** from crawling around on the concrete all day, I could afford to by a lift if this stupid car would quit breaking
.Mike and Gord, thanks for the PMs. Mike, I need to see what I have going on here and then will get back to you. Gord, keep at it, but be careful.
06-19-2010, 06:29 AM
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Back to YOU, I feel your pain man, Im at a point where I dont give a $hit anymore, and I think that says something in itself. If somebody else fawks your wife or girl and you dont give a $Hit do you really love her? Everytime something bad hapens you become more numb to it, eventually reaching the love/hate relationship I experience.
