Vortech V3 install, what all do I need??
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Vortech V3 install, what all do I need??
Next year I want to have a Vortech V3 installed so this year I am trying to pick up everything I will need for the install. I would like to make this as easy on my motor as I can as to not brake anything or blow up anything. I am planing on using the V3 kit and not upgrading pulleys. I also want to have a Snow Performance meth injection kit installed at the same time.
The questions I have are:
1. Would I be safer running meth injection or not?
2. What meth injection kit would I need, stage 1, stage 2 or stage 3?
3. Would I be better off running Uprev insted of the stuff that comes with the V3 kit?
4. Would I be better off getting an UpRev upgraded HPX MAF sensor or sticking with my stock MAF?
5. Do I really need any gauges, if so what gauges?
6. Do I need anything else that I didnt think of??
Thanks for your help.
The questions I have are:
1. Would I be safer running meth injection or not?
2. What meth injection kit would I need, stage 1, stage 2 or stage 3?
3. Would I be better off running Uprev insted of the stuff that comes with the V3 kit?
4. Would I be better off getting an UpRev upgraded HPX MAF sensor or sticking with my stock MAF?
5. Do I really need any gauges, if so what gauges?
6. Do I need anything else that I didnt think of??
Thanks for your help.
Last edited by RandyK1; Jun 7, 2011 at 05:02 AM.
Take a minute any read through this thread. It is very informative and should answer all your questions. Also I would consider the Osiris. I would have gone that route my first time around if it was available.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...questions.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...questions.html
Next year I want to have a Vortech V3 installed so this year I am trying to pick up everything I will need for the install. I would like to make this as easy on my motor as I can as to not brake anything or blow up anything. I am planing on using the V3 kit and not upgrading pulleys. I also want to have a Snow Performance meth injection kit installed at the same time.
The questions I have are:
1. Would I be safer running meth injection or not?
if it was me no
2. What meth injection kit would I need, stage 1, stage 2 or stage 3?
see above
3. Would I be better off running Uprev insted of the stuff that comes with the V3 kit?
uprev hands down
4. Would I be better off getting an UpRev upgraded HPX MAF sensor or sticking with my stock MAF?
Stock MAF
5. Do I really need any gauges, if so what gauges?
covered 100x please search. a lot is preference
6. Do I need anything else that I didnt think of??
we dont know what all you have so this is a hard question to answer
Thanks for your help.
The questions I have are:
1. Would I be safer running meth injection or not?
if it was me no
2. What meth injection kit would I need, stage 1, stage 2 or stage 3?
see above
3. Would I be better off running Uprev insted of the stuff that comes with the V3 kit?
uprev hands down
4. Would I be better off getting an UpRev upgraded HPX MAF sensor or sticking with my stock MAF?
Stock MAF
5. Do I really need any gauges, if so what gauges?
covered 100x please search. a lot is preference
6. Do I need anything else that I didnt think of??
we dont know what all you have so this is a hard question to answer
Thanks for your help.
^+1 read through there and then ask if you are still iffy on anything. IMO though you shouldnt need meth at all, I ran a Vortech V2 blower for a long time on the 3.33 pully with no problems and that was on just the FMU that came with the kit, if the Osiris stuff had been around though I would have deff gone that route.
The questions I have are:
1. Would I be safer running meth injection or not?
2. What meth injection kit would I need, stage 1, stage 2 or stage 3?
3. Would I be better off running Uprev insted of the stuff that comes with the V3 kit?
4. Would I be better off getting an UpRev upgraded HPX MAF sensor or sticking with my stock MAF?
5. Do I really need any gauges, if so what gauges?
6. Do I need anything else that I didnt think of??
1. Would I be safer running meth injection or not?
2. What meth injection kit would I need, stage 1, stage 2 or stage 3?
3. Would I be better off running Uprev insted of the stuff that comes with the V3 kit?
4. Would I be better off getting an UpRev upgraded HPX MAF sensor or sticking with my stock MAF?
5. Do I really need any gauges, if so what gauges?
6. Do I need anything else that I didnt think of??
3- Yes, Uprev is a worthy upgrade.
4- Depends on the power level. The stock maf in my car got maxed out while tuning, so an HPX went in.
5- "Need" and "should" are two different things. You don't necessarily need any, but its a good idea so you can keep tabs on things. All I have right now is boost and an AEM wideband. I would like to get a couple others such as oil temp, but that's just me.
6- Some of your other supporting mods should include a fuel pump and injectors, and if you plan on daily driving and/or tracking the car I'd add an oil cooler.
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I think you should also be asking what HP are you shooting for?
I would go with larger injectors and pump.
You will need to get a new MAF as the stock will me maxed out
but as far as keeping it in one piece go with the a good tuner and UP-Rev
Good luck
I would go with larger injectors and pump.
You will need to get a new MAF as the stock will me maxed out
but as far as keeping it in one piece go with the a good tuner and UP-Rev
Good luck
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I am thinking that 380-400 HP is where I would like to be. The list so far is: Vortech V3, Snow Performance Meth injection (stage ?), DW 440 injectors, fuel pump and an Uprev tune. I should be able to make a safe 380-400 HP I would think. I dont know what gauges I will be getting yet. I also dont know what stage Meth kit I need. I am still reading the Vortech thread.
Last edited by RandyK1; Jun 11, 2011 at 08:41 AM.
I'd be a little careful with the meth system... since the supercharger is always boosting you'll definitely need to keep an eye on the meth level. Is your car a DD? I'm doing the HKS Supercharger myself and pretty much have my whole build list bought... now I need to get home to install it.
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I would also be getting this http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=16 Low level indicator. I am planing on using my washer fluid tank for the meth so I would be adding the low level indicator to that. The main reason I want to run the meth kit is for my motor to last longer (cooler and cleaner) reason 2 would be for a little extra power 
Your motor lasting longer will not be dependent on using meth or not... you'll be able to have a more aggressive tune. Unless you drive with a gallon of meth in your trunk I'd be careful and if this is a DD, it's not recommended. More FI guys will comment on this but your logic is flawed.
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So its better not to use meth? It is for my DD and my logic is not flawed, but I am a F/I noob and that is why I ask these questions to learn. I have not ordered anything yet and wont be till this winter. My main goal is 380-400 HP and to not blow up my motor. The only things I have so far is high flow cats, Borla exhaust and a 3/8 plenum spacer. Thanks for all the help so far. I am still learning
At those power level, meth seems pointless IMO. Also, if there is a problem with the meth kit, what would you do?? at least look more into it before you think about getting it.
For the power levels If I was you I'd get larger injectors, fuel pump, PMAS MAF if required, and a standalone or the Osiris tuner kit.
Blowing up your motor will depend on the tune. You shouldn't be worry about it if you have a good tune and supporting mods.
There is a HUGE dedicated Vortech SC thread. All the answers you are looking for can be found in there. So don't be lazy and re-search some more. There is practically so much info about vortech in our forums.
P.S. I'd also add a thermostat and engine oil cooler if it is within your budget.
For the power levels If I was you I'd get larger injectors, fuel pump, PMAS MAF if required, and a standalone or the Osiris tuner kit.
Blowing up your motor will depend on the tune. You shouldn't be worry about it if you have a good tune and supporting mods.
There is a HUGE dedicated Vortech SC thread. All the answers you are looking for can be found in there. So don't be lazy and re-search some more. There is practically so much info about vortech in our forums.
P.S. I'd also add a thermostat and engine oil cooler if it is within your budget.
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I am thinking that 380-400 HP is where I would like to be. The list so far is: Vortech V3, Snow Performance Meth injection (stage ?), DW 440 injectors, fuel pump and an Uprev tune. I should be able to make a safe 380-400 HP I would think. I dont know what gauges I will be getting yet. I also dont know what stage Meth kit I need. I am still reading the Vortech thread.
Best advice... KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). You are not re-inventing the wheel here. Others are giving you good advice. If you want to have meth so you can be cool and feel fast than just say so and thats fine. Pick a solid tuner and seek their input for your build as well.
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Ok the meth kit is out. I do plan on using a good tuner and uprev. I am reading the vortech thread it just takes me a while to get through all that info. As for the 440cc injectors, dont you think that will be enough to reach 380_400hp or will I need larger injectors? I dont want to go anymore than380_400hp. With the $$$ I was going to spend on the meth kit I will buy some gauges.
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did u ever finish this project? i run a vortech with upgraded pulleys and impeller boosting 11 psi, running a 3 gal meth tank in the trunk but it only kicks in after 7 psi. i daily this car but don't get into high boost on a daily basis and the meth lasts me over a month. its also got 440 injectors and a few other mods. made 437hp on a mustang dyno. if u want meth call rodney at alcoholinjectionsystems.com tell him what u r running and he will set u up with what u need. and if you do use your washer tank u don't need a low level indicator, your washer low level indicator will do the job
You can setup your meth injection to come on only at a set level of manifold pressure. With a supercharger that would be at xxxxrpm as boost is very linear. If your tuner knows what he is doing it shouldn't be any kind of an issue to setup. I'll run it on my dd but my car's kind of an oddball. That being said, do gauge setup first, and I'd do the hpx upgrade now rather than later.
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i set up my meth to come on at a certain psi of boost. alcohol injection systems sells a great kit that u can set to different boost levels. as far as i know you cant really control it by rpm unless you go with a fully programmable comp like haltech which =$$$$. i got my entire kit through alcohol injection systems ready to go for 500. u can upgrade to the hpx but not needed at all. im boosting up to 11psi at 6600 rpm and been running the factory maf with an osiris tune. best and most reliable performance upgrades i have ever done to any of my cars
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