cat pipe....

hmmm....now you (& Turbonetics) have my attention once again.

I think it is time for Brad (from Turbonetics) to chime in again. These threads are the driving force behind the "buzz" that a product makes....which means # of kits sold and $$ for the companies. Just look at Peter from APS...he lives at my350z.com...

 

I am glad that you have stuck with this for so long, I hope everything works out well. Make sure you keep us updated, Mark.

 

I will...it looks like the cat will be on the downpipe going to the stock mid-pipe...Like I said not 100% on all the details yet. I should have some more info for you guys soon...

 

Thanks for your work... I know a few people here are very glad that you are doing this!

 

Glad to help...

 

As I have said before, I am highly interested in getting this kit sometime next year. I just bought a set of Top Speed headers from a GB on motoring. I paid $230 shipped for them and the bends are identical to those of the DC headers. The dyno chart showed gains of 10 HP and 15 ft/lb of torque on a Z with an intake, exhaust and popcharger.

To my point, or question. These headers are made from robotic welded T304 stainless steel. MIAPLAYA, do you foresee a problem running these headers with the Turbonetics kit as far as cracking goes?

If anyone is interested in a good set of beautiful looking headers for a cheap price with documented gains, you should jump in on this GB. Details are under the GB forum on here.

Zach

 

I could not speak to the endurance of those headers. I am far from confident in my knowledge of steel ratings. I will ask an Mechanical Engineer I know about it for you though. As for fitment it should not be a problem.

 

I knew fitment wouldnt be an issue based on the pix from SEMA.

 

Sweet, yeah I'll try to get an answer for you on durability.

 

It looks to me like all aftermarket SS headers are utilizing T304 stainless. I guess it must be good.

 

This forum is a tremendous tool for everybody that keeps up with it, I do keep checking on things to see what everybody out there is interested in but I refuse to make criticizing and disrespectful comments regarding other manufacturers products...it's simply unprofessional. I would rather spend my energy making sure we are making the very best product available and at the end of the day I would hope that's what you as the consumer and enthusiast wants as well.

I will try and keep everybody up to date on the changes we are doing. Continues improvment is a part of any GOOD manufacturing process. If you stop improving you die.

We are testing a CAT system now, this first batch of systems we will be releasing in January will be without CAT (for off road use only of course) but the plan all along was to make a bolt in CAT replacement pipe so you as the owner could have the option to run it or not.

As I had mentioned before on this forum...there are several FI systems on the market and that's good for everybody as it gives people options for product that fits thier needs and wants. After all... they all do want you are buying them for MAKE POWER...but not everybody wants the same thing.

Turbonetics chose the path of single turbocharger for several reasons (cost, performance, people said it could not be done, ease of installation, ease of service and you can actually open the hood and see your investment...it's a pride thing!) we have achieved the goals we set fourth and as the worlds most recognized manufacturer of performance turbochargers, intercoolers, wastegates and turbocharger systems we are confident that our results will satisfy the enthusiast that is looking for the type of products we offer.

Brad

 

Well said Brad!

 

Thanks Brad.

Can you comment on your plans for a carb cert for those of us who are interested in your products but are ambivilent at this time to purchase pending carb approval?

 

We are going down the path of certification and it's not a short path. There had been comments regarding moving the CAT from it's original position but I have yet to confirm this in writing from CARB. the only thing we have confirmed is the emissions must performs no worse than they did stock. if you are to get technical to the word of keeping the CATs in the stock location this also means the twin guys are going to have issues as well as they are putting a turbine in the path of the exhasut valve and CAT that was not there from the factory...interpretation is open.

 

Thanks.

Keep us posted.

 

Will do...

Brad

 

Brad it's 100% true that it's technically challenging to achieve the correct emission numbers necessary to obtain a CARB EO when the turbos are positioned before the cat converters, that is a real challenge for APS.

However this is a completely seperate issue from the very clear cut question of the position and type of cat converter you need to utilise for a CARB EO.

There is no question about this issue, the stock Factory Nissan cat converters must be retained in the physically stock original location.

This issue is not open to interpretation, this information is clearly available on the CARB web site and covers this exact issue at length, hope this helps.

Thanks

peter

 

I digress...

 

Hey Peter would you provide a link to where you read that on the CARB webpage. I'm having some trouble finding that.

 

HATE to say it, but he's right . Check this out for useful info as well.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php

http://www.arb.ca.gov/html/lawsregs.htm

The info's around one of these sites for public viewing. I guess APS is just going to have to match Turbonetics price...