Sorry - I'm not flaming other companies - if you actually read the threads of how many of your fellow drivers out there feel about their systems - it is what you are saying...not me.

We are only responding to your dissatisfaction to the choices you have been given - that you have been forced to accept - and giving you a new choice that answers those concerns and solves those problems...you just have to listen.

That's not flaming - that's reiterating the truth!

Rick

 

No the truth is you built a new exhaust which in your opinion is a good one. You are a new company that is charging the same amount of money if not more than the leading brand name and most trusted companies out there. You came on this forum and presented your new product, to which others are sceptical about the gains you presented. You then defended your product like any company would. Basically we presented you with our honest truth. If that is not what you wanted then you shouldn't have come here.

 

OK - we've always been on the level here - ALWAYS - and I'll continue to be:

1 - Our opinion is that we built a great new exhaust system. Based on many people on this board and the G35Driver board who have not only seen and heard it in person, but on the videos as well - we have gotten a HUGE consensus that agrees with us.

2 - Fast Intentions is a new company - yes - the owners, as I have stated MANY times, worked for one of the most respected Z exhaust shops in the industry - LaBree Motorsports - they were the lead engineers of those products and went out on their own - these are not NEW people - just a new company name. They have built some of the most trusted products out there as well for the last 5 years and continue to do so. Charging an appropriate amount of money for a product is based on craftsmanship, quality and customer service, not to mention fair market price - not how new your business is.

3 - We completely understand people being skeptical of performance claims, I've said this before. We have had people offer to do independent Dynos on our test car to verify it's HP, etc...but in the end, those people have not stepped up to actually follow through. To stay honest as we have - we've actually called this forums bluff on your requests several times...but nobody steps up.

The owner of the test car has made repeated offers to get with people if they want to hear and see the system, etc...and you guys don't.

It's OK with us if you don't..really. I just think, and know from PM's and other discussion, that there are many of you out there that do want this system. Some think it is expensive - and at the retail prices, it is a premium product...well thats what the group buy is all about, an these prices wont come around again.

I have no problem with honest truth and criticism. Price criticism is hard for anyone to deal with because Free is always the best price and for some that isn't cheap enough.

The criticism I have a problem with is when we're challenged about our findings and then nobody wants to actually step up to the challenge...those are empty flames in my opinion.

Rick

 

Rick I understand what you are saying. I would be intrested but it is a hard decision to make. Spending that amount of money requires a trust that a company delivers to its customers. I am not saying that you can not do this but what I am suggesting is that its hard for people to justify spending the money on a new exhaust that isn't known and trusted. Does that make since? It kinda confused me LOL! Anyway, I'm not suggesting you drop your drawers on the price but true market is 900-1500. With the average person spending aroud 1100$. Borla being on of the most trusted brands is at that 900$ mark. Its hard to swallow your price without the group buy. If you price were around that mark I would be looking at your product. Just my opinion. I am sorry if I keep giving you grief, just wanted you to understand where I was coming from. By the way is there enough people that have signed up to make the price 900+ mark yet? I think was that you needed 18+ people. Just curious.

 

Thanks for that response...much easier to swallow and very much understood.

Regarding the number of sign-ups...kind of a funny response for you all...nobody has signed up and everybody has given me the same response you just did.

Heres a hint - if everyone who has PM'd me about this question and everyone who has posted the question actually just signed up - you'd all be there!

hmmmmm.......


Rick

 

goddamn!!!! somebody wanna loan me a grand?!?! i promise i'll pay back

 

I have a question, just a question.
How much engineering do most people put into their products? Is it seat of the pants engineering, or is it true engineering with testing to back up what you already know?

Just something to think about when one reads a thread.

 

Actually...I've seen them online brand new for about $780, WITHOUT a Group Buy!!

I agree with the others, I think the price point of Fast Intentions exhaust is pretty high. Especially when you consider you can purchase the Magnaflow X-pipe all by itself for about $100 RETAIL. Does mandrel bent pipes, 2 mufflers and etc. justify another $800? Maybe it does and I'm completely off the mark...

 

Well...

knicksinny has just bought in on the group buy.

He wont be sorry or kicking himself when he gets his system, he'll save $400!

Thanks for your support!

8 days left folks....

Rick

 

I guess that does depend on if you have your own mandrel bender, the right mufflers, all the parts, the knowhow, and the time...oh yes...the time, not to mention the expertise to weld REALLY well.

If you package it all up - test it all - and yes do the R&D and get the result we have - it is worth it.

Considering every other exhaust fits the cost profile you put up there...why EVER buy and aftermarket exhaust? You should always build you own, right?

What exhaust do you have now? With so many choices out there - they will tailor to everyones taste and affordability. Many people who mod their cars put 2-3 exhausts on their cars before finally giving up and just settling on one, whether they like it or not. It's OK to wait and hear someone else's and pay full price later...it really is.

Rick

 

I totally agree - and that's why our product went through it's paces and we designed mufflers and had them manufactured by Sebring Tuning for us. We listened on the boards to find out what people really thought of the best systems out there, got those systems, found out for ourselves what was good and bad, fixed them and came out with our own product that stands on it's own. It's not a copy of anyone else's either.

Which would plainly show you that it's not seat of the pants engineering. Our dyno's back it up as well. Testimonials from our first customers also show the product does what it claims.

All I can say is to those that are considering, on the fence, or have already purchased, thanks for your support!

Rick

 

Hey all -

Our G35Driver goup buy has only 3 left to go to hit their 18....

You guys got 1 here...if your on the fence...PM me...lets chat.

Rick

 

Rick,

My big concern is the drone. With the fast intentions cat back do you claim that there will be no drone, regardless of items upstream (headers, high flow cats, test pipes, etc)? I'd like to open up the entire exhaust but I CANNOT deal with drone. I've had it on other vehicles nad I hate it. Thanks for the help.

Justin

 

What exactly is this "drone"? I think I can figure out what the "rasp" is but not sure about drone. Sorry for the newb question..

 

Rick are you guys counting me. I talked to Tony the other day

 

OK - Our system on a stock car - has ZERO drone. I have a G35Coupe - headers, testpipes, cams, heads, and mass internals, etc, etc etc - and still no drone on the system.

NOW - with that said - the system is loud with the mods when you open it up - you do hear the exhaust in the car - but it does not drone and vibrate your brains loose nor the inside of your car - it is not drone. It is also not THAT loud - it is just more noticeable because the exhaust note itself is louder.

Rick

 

No - we really cannot. Your system is a custom 3" build that does not conform to the Group Buy at all really.

Wish we could though...it's not really a modded version of what we're doing - it's a completely different version.

Rick

 

Drone is somewhat of a phenomena when a certain pitch of exhaust note is not canceled out properly in the exhaust system. The result is a deep base sound that resonates literally through the mufflers or resonators to the street and bounces back into the car and vibrates through the metal, and your bones.

Drone can be really bad and sometimes not so bad, or not at all. Some exhaust systems can be heard in the car, but that is not drone. Drone literally can be felt as if you had a couple of 10" or 12" woofers playing a real deep base note at a specific RPM range every time you hit the gas or cruised at that range.

Most drone is felt in the range of 1800-3800 RPM - somewhere in that range. IT can be for 500 RPM, more, etc. high quality mufflers, combined with proper sized tubing, limited bends (high efficiency in path), is how you minimize or eliminate drone in a system. The mufflers must be designed to absorb and rebound the exhaust pulses properly for each engine type to effectively handle this.

That's why when you change the cars dynamic, you can introduce drone where it didn't exist before, unless the system has been designed to handle certain changes in certain magnitudes for compensation.

Hope that helps...

Rick

 

ok, no problem. it's you guys call

 

Thanks for the detailed info.