rev up intake, ported pics...
Yes the fuel is added in the lower collector right before it goes into the heads.
And traditionally you would want a rougher finish vs polished in this area.
As far as polishing the upper plenums I don't see that it would matter one way or the other
This is where the fuel is added.
And traditionally you would want a rougher finish vs polished in this area.
As far as polishing the upper plenums I don't see that it would matter one way or the other
This is where the fuel is added.
exactly the angle of the injector, the manifold, and the injector spray fan you can see where it will come into contact with the lower manifold(where he said he also polished it), the portion the injector protrudes into the lower IS NOT separated from the rest of the intake like it looks like from above which makes me think nathan has never even had a lower off.
and STILL nathan has no response to tumbling/turbulence of the air letting the fuel fall out immediately upon being sprayed since the airflow of a polished smooth manifold allows the air flow to be too smooth. he likes to ignore bits and pieces of information to try and prove himself right, he should probably leave any technical arguement to the people on his team who actually do the work. the paperwork guy isnt the one who designs and builds race engines.
i havnt missed a single point nathan what i said is true too smooth a intake will let the fuel fall out of suspension unless the engine is direct injected. you want to argue that fact literally on no experience other then your experience driving in a mostly stock racing class(giving you the benefit of the doubt saying you drive may or may not be true)
and STILL nathan has no response to tumbling/turbulence of the air letting the fuel fall out immediately upon being sprayed since the airflow of a polished smooth manifold allows the air flow to be too smooth. he likes to ignore bits and pieces of information to try and prove himself right, he should probably leave any technical arguement to the people on his team who actually do the work. the paperwork guy isnt the one who designs and builds race engines.
i havnt missed a single point nathan what i said is true too smooth a intake will let the fuel fall out of suspension unless the engine is direct injected. you want to argue that fact literally on no experience other then your experience driving in a mostly stock racing class(giving you the benefit of the doubt saying you drive may or may not be true)
Yes the fuel is added in the lower collector right before it goes into the heads.
And traditionally you would want a rougher finish vs polished in this area.
As far as polishing the upper plenums I don't see that it would matter one way or the other
This is where the fuel is added.
And traditionally you would want a rougher finish vs polished in this area.
As far as polishing the upper plenums I don't see that it would matter one way or the other
This is where the fuel is added.
Last edited by jerryd87; Oct 27, 2013 at 03:04 PM.
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exactly the angle of the injector, the manifold, and the injector spray fan you can see where it will come into contact with the lower manifold(where he said he also polished it), the portion the injector protrudes into the lower IS NOT separated from the rest of the intake like it looks like from above which makes me think nathan has never even had a lower off.
and STILL nathan has no response to tumbling/turbulence of the air letting the fuel fall out immediately upon being sprayed since the airflow of a polished smooth manifold allows the air flow to be too smooth. he likes to ignore bits and pieces of information to try and prove himself right, he should probably leave any technical arguement to the people on his team who actually do the work. the paperwork guy isnt the one who designs and builds race engines.
i havnt missed a single point nathan what i said is true too smooth a intake will let the fuel fall out of suspension unless the engine is direct injected. you want to argue that fact literally on no experience other then your experience driving in a mostly stock racing class(giving you the benefit of the doubt saying you drive may or may not be true)
and STILL nathan has no response to tumbling/turbulence of the air letting the fuel fall out immediately upon being sprayed since the airflow of a polished smooth manifold allows the air flow to be too smooth. he likes to ignore bits and pieces of information to try and prove himself right, he should probably leave any technical arguement to the people on his team who actually do the work. the paperwork guy isnt the one who designs and builds race engines.
i havnt missed a single point nathan what i said is true too smooth a intake will let the fuel fall out of suspension unless the engine is direct injected. you want to argue that fact literally on no experience other then your experience driving in a mostly stock racing class(giving you the benefit of the doubt saying you drive may or may not be true)
Photo 1 & 3. Injector vertically in place in the lower intake manifold 1/4" from the cyl head inlet port.
Photo 2. Cut out in intake port to deflect injector spray down and onto the back of the intake valves.
Consider this. Fuel is discharged at 51 psi in a narrow angled spray into a very high speed & volume airflow less than 2" from the combustion chambers
The only way fuel could get back up into the intake manifold ports is through reversion at low revs with a high overlap camshaft but the retarded cam phasing at idle in a 350Z negates most if not all of this.
Jerry. You have made many misinformed opinions as to my knowledge, ability & experience so I guess it's to much to ask for an apology when I have proved that the 350Z has a dry intake system.
Amongst the vast & varying information into air flow dynamics the general consensus is that that surface design is more important to wet intakes than dry.
Finally a piece of advise, don't attack the person by trying put them down & question there knowledge & ability, Debate the point not the person.
The OP statement that you took offence too. "cut & paste" was only littoral in the sense that there is very little original thinking & with the internet we can all become instant experts, myself included. Some of things you have said personally show you to be a real jerk.
I guess that last comment has F'''''d me for an apology
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Jerry, as promised photo that prove there is no fuel in suspension in the upper & lower intake manifolds.
Photo 1 & 3. Injector vertically in place in the lower intake manifold 1/4" from the cyl head inlet port.
Photo 2. Cut out in intake port to deflect injector spray down and onto the back of the intake valves.
Consider this. Fuel is discharged at 51 psi in a narrow angled spray into a very high speed & volume airflow less than 2" from the combustion chambers
The only way fuel could get back up into the intake manifold ports is through reversion at low revs with a high overlap camshaft but the retarded cam phasing at idle in a 350Z negates most if not all of this.
Jerry. You have made many misinformed opinions as to my knowledge, ability & experience so I guess it's to much to ask for an apology when I have proved that the 350Z has a dry intake system.
Amongst the vast & varying information into air flow dynamics the general consensus is that that surface design is more important to wet intakes than dry.
Finally a piece of advise, don't attack the person by trying put them down & question there knowledge & ability, Debate the point not the person.
The OP statement that you took offence too. "cut & paste" was only littoral in the sense that there is very little original thinking & with the internet we can all become instant experts, myself included. Some of things you have said personally show you to be a real jerk.
I guess that last comment has F'''''d me for an apology
Photo 1 & 3. Injector vertically in place in the lower intake manifold 1/4" from the cyl head inlet port.
Photo 2. Cut out in intake port to deflect injector spray down and onto the back of the intake valves.
Consider this. Fuel is discharged at 51 psi in a narrow angled spray into a very high speed & volume airflow less than 2" from the combustion chambers
The only way fuel could get back up into the intake manifold ports is through reversion at low revs with a high overlap camshaft but the retarded cam phasing at idle in a 350Z negates most if not all of this.
Jerry. You have made many misinformed opinions as to my knowledge, ability & experience so I guess it's to much to ask for an apology when I have proved that the 350Z has a dry intake system.
Amongst the vast & varying information into air flow dynamics the general consensus is that that surface design is more important to wet intakes than dry.
Finally a piece of advise, don't attack the person by trying put them down & question there knowledge & ability, Debate the point not the person.
The OP statement that you took offence too. "cut & paste" was only littoral in the sense that there is very little original thinking & with the internet we can all become instant experts, myself included. Some of things you have said personally show you to be a real jerk.
I guess that last comment has F'''''d me for an apology
wow i dont think i need to say anymore to show FOS you are, 1) pressure is variable depending on setup, 2) it is hardly a "narrow spray" the spray fans are as much as 40 degrees in some setups, a 40 degree cone setup at that thats ****ing huge. and most definitely hits the bottom of the intake, well if port that **** perfectly smooth eliminating tumble so that the air and fuel dont mix properly. 3) less then 2 inchs? its more then 2 inchs to the split between the to valves far much more to the combustion chamber 4) the indent is there not to deflect it but so that fuel can even get in the chamber if it wasnt it would hit a solid wall of metal.
you also continue to ignore any comments on the effect of tumbling/turbulence and how it affects fuel mixing even in the cylinder head itself after it has left the intake.
finally the correct term is *******, and yes you would be correct you would have a hard time finding people who have served in the military in wartime who arnt *******s. harvards actually done a study on it.
you also continue to ignore any comments on the effect of tumbling/turbulence and how it affects fuel mixing even in the cylinder head itself after it has left the intake.
finally the correct term is *******, and yes you would be correct you would have a hard time finding people who have served in the military in wartime who arnt *******s. harvards actually done a study on it.
Jerry, as promised photo that prove there is no fuel in suspension in the upper & lower intake manifolds.
Photo 1 & 3. Injector vertically in place in the lower intake manifold 1/4" from the cyl head inlet port.
Photo 2. Cut out in intake port to deflect injector spray down and onto the back of the intake valves.
Consider this. Fuel is discharged at 51 psi in a narrow angled spray into a very high speed & volume airflow less than 2" from the combustion chambers
The only way fuel could get back up into the intake manifold ports is through reversion at low revs with a high overlap camshaft but the retarded cam phasing at idle in a 350Z negates most if not all of this.
Jerry. You have made many misinformed opinions as to my knowledge, ability & experience so I guess it's to much to ask for an apology when I have proved that the 350Z has a dry intake system.
Amongst the vast & varying information into air flow dynamics the general consensus is that that surface design is more important to wet intakes than dry.
Finally a piece of advise, don't attack the person by trying put them down & question there knowledge & ability, Debate the point not the person.
The OP statement that you took offence too. "cut & paste" was only littoral in the sense that there is very little original thinking & with the internet we can all become instant experts, myself included. Some of things you have said personally show you to be a real jerk.
I guess that last comment has F'''''d me for an apology
Photo 1 & 3. Injector vertically in place in the lower intake manifold 1/4" from the cyl head inlet port.
Photo 2. Cut out in intake port to deflect injector spray down and onto the back of the intake valves.
Consider this. Fuel is discharged at 51 psi in a narrow angled spray into a very high speed & volume airflow less than 2" from the combustion chambers
The only way fuel could get back up into the intake manifold ports is through reversion at low revs with a high overlap camshaft but the retarded cam phasing at idle in a 350Z negates most if not all of this.
Jerry. You have made many misinformed opinions as to my knowledge, ability & experience so I guess it's to much to ask for an apology when I have proved that the 350Z has a dry intake system.
Amongst the vast & varying information into air flow dynamics the general consensus is that that surface design is more important to wet intakes than dry.
Finally a piece of advise, don't attack the person by trying put them down & question there knowledge & ability, Debate the point not the person.
The OP statement that you took offence too. "cut & paste" was only littoral in the sense that there is very little original thinking & with the internet we can all become instant experts, myself included. Some of things you have said personally show you to be a real jerk.
I guess that last comment has F'''''d me for an apology
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wow i dont think i need to say anymore to show FOS you are, 1) pressure is variable depending on setup, 2) it is hardly a "narrow spray" the spray fans are as much as 40 degrees in some setups, a 40 degree cone setup at that thats ****ing huge. and most definitely hits the bottom of the intake, well if port that **** perfectly smooth eliminating tumble so that the air and fuel dont mix properly. 3) less then 2 inchs? its more then 2 inchs to the split between the to valves far much more to the combustion chamber 4) the indent is there not to deflect it but so that fuel can even get in the chamber if it wasnt it would hit a solid wall of metal.
you also continue to ignore any comments on the effect of tumbling/turbulence and how it affects fuel mixing even in the cylinder head itself after it has left the intake.
finally the correct term is *******, and yes you would be correct you would have a hard time finding people who have served in the military in wartime who arnt *******s. harvards actually done a study on it.
you also continue to ignore any comments on the effect of tumbling/turbulence and how it affects fuel mixing even in the cylinder head itself after it has left the intake.
finally the correct term is *******, and yes you would be correct you would have a hard time finding people who have served in the military in wartime who arnt *******s. harvards actually done a study on it.
All I've ever said is that there is no fuel to fall out of suspension in the intake manifolds & I have now proved that. Now you want to go into the cyl head.
Your worse than my wife. Never won an argument with her & like her you just keep changing the goalposts. So I'll quit while I'm ahead.
if your referring to drugs ive never failed a drug test nor ever will, not doing them has that advantage. here how about i bring back my ORIGINAL COMMENT
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finally im not sure what your final finish is but that looks like a exhaust side finish not intake, the intake needs to be rough, like 80 grit sanding disc rough so that fuel dosnt drop out of suspension although this last point might not be true the pictures arnt very good.
for ONE you still havnt proved a damn thing how about a video of the injectors spraying into the lower, of course not because you dont want people to see fuel hitting the lower if there isnt any airflow(just spraying test liquid through the lower by itself) and TWO the person who said the intake wouldnt let fuel fall out of suspension because its a "dry" intake and goes directly into the head is YOU, YOU brought up the heads NOT me. the only thing i mentioned on the HEADS IS THE INTAKE FLOW NOT HAVING THE PROPER TUMBLING AND TURBULENCE WOULD CARRY TO THE HEAD EVEN ALLOWING IT TO FALL OUT THERE SINCE THERE IS NOTHING TO HELP THE AIR MIX. intake effects the head, wanna try and say that isnt true too? would explain why your the paperwork guy and not a engine builder.
lets not even get into burn rates from improper mix and swirling of the air.
your just upset because you dont know a thing about engines and spoke up when you shouldn't have and now feel embarrassed and trying to cover it up.
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finally im not sure what your final finish is but that looks like a exhaust side finish not intake, the intake needs to be rough, like 80 grit sanding disc rough so that fuel dosnt drop out of suspension although this last point might not be true the pictures arnt very good.
for ONE you still havnt proved a damn thing how about a video of the injectors spraying into the lower, of course not because you dont want people to see fuel hitting the lower if there isnt any airflow(just spraying test liquid through the lower by itself) and TWO the person who said the intake wouldnt let fuel fall out of suspension because its a "dry" intake and goes directly into the head is YOU, YOU brought up the heads NOT me. the only thing i mentioned on the HEADS IS THE INTAKE FLOW NOT HAVING THE PROPER TUMBLING AND TURBULENCE WOULD CARRY TO THE HEAD EVEN ALLOWING IT TO FALL OUT THERE SINCE THERE IS NOTHING TO HELP THE AIR MIX. intake effects the head, wanna try and say that isnt true too? would explain why your the paperwork guy and not a engine builder.
lets not even get into burn rates from improper mix and swirling of the air.
your just upset because you dont know a thing about engines and spoke up when you shouldn't have and now feel embarrassed and trying to cover it up.
Jerry you just don't get it. must be all that **** they grow on the Nth Shore.
All I've ever said is that there is no fuel to fall out of suspension in the intake manifolds & I have now proved that. Now you want to go into the cyl head.
Your worse than my wife. Never won an argument with her & like her you just keep changing the goalposts. So I'll quit while I'm ahead.
All I've ever said is that there is no fuel to fall out of suspension in the intake manifolds & I have now proved that. Now you want to go into the cyl head.
Your worse than my wife. Never won an argument with her & like her you just keep changing the goalposts. So I'll quit while I'm ahead.
Last edited by jerryd87; Oct 28, 2013 at 08:32 PM.
This argument is stupid. Please just shut up. All this BS about "INTAKE FLOW NOT HAVING THE PROPER TUMBLING AND TURBULENCE" makes me want to hurl. It's a freaking VQ35. The same engine they put in their sedans and minivans. It's not an F1 car.
GTFO
GTFO
wow your just as retarded as him, how many engines have you build? thats pretty obvious as none. ALL engines behave the same way this has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with being a f1 engine. its a standard principle that ANY GOOD professional porter uses when porting manifolds and heads. since you OBVIOUSLY didnt notice this thread is about PORTED MANIFOLDS
dosnt matter what they put the engine in, a engine is a engine, they all work the same way especially since people are MODIFYING THEM. so good job showing up and making stupid *** comments without having a clue on the subject.
dosnt matter what they put the engine in, a engine is a engine, they all work the same way especially since people are MODIFYING THEM. so good job showing up and making stupid *** comments without having a clue on the subject.
wow your just as retarded as him, how many engines have you build? thats pretty obvious as none. ALL engines behave the same way this has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with being a f1 engine. its a standard principle that ANY GOOD professional porter uses when porting manifolds and heads. since you OBVIOUSLY didnt notice this thread is about PORTED MANIFOLDS
dosnt matter what they put the engine in, a engine is a engine, they all work the same way especially since people are MODIFYING THEM. so good job showing up and making stupid *** comments without having a clue on the subject.
dosnt matter what they put the engine in, a engine is a engine, they all work the same way especially since people are MODIFYING THEM. so good job showing up and making stupid *** comments without having a clue on the subject.
you first, your the one who stepped in here and decided you wanted to join in and made a stupid comment your own fault. like anyone would actually listen to you anyway considering the caliber of the questions you ask on the site put you in the barely basic knowledge category with a mostly stock engine. bolt on intake and exhaust dosnt qualify you to join in a talk about porting unless your asking a question. heres a secret all those championship engine builders i keep talking about, yah none of them are f1 engines either
Last edited by jerryd87; Oct 29, 2013 at 07:47 PM.
lol, and I don't care if you're right, wrong, or anywhere in between. Also, my level of proficiency extends beyond the bounds of my daily Z, but I digress.
Regardless of any of your possibly "intelligent" remarks, the fact still remains that you've been a class-A, 100% D-Bag to members of this forum. Instead of constructing your arguments professionally and oh, maybe backing them up with actual facts and research besides your own repetitive arguments, some of us might actually listen to you.
Your credibility is shot via your disregard of other members opinions/questions and your condescending attitude towards fellow Z owners.
So, guess what; Nobody f&%$ing cares about anything you have to say anymore.
Regardless of any of your possibly "intelligent" remarks, the fact still remains that you've been a class-A, 100% D-Bag to members of this forum. Instead of constructing your arguments professionally and oh, maybe backing them up with actual facts and research besides your own repetitive arguments, some of us might actually listen to you.
Your credibility is shot via your disregard of other members opinions/questions and your condescending attitude towards fellow Z owners.
So, guess what; Nobody f&%$ing cares about anything you have to say anymore.
should i provide the COUNTLESS threads that show you dont have a clue what your talking about? am i an *******? yup, everyone im a ******* to deserves it though, theres are DOZENS just in the past few weeks where i have made no "douchebag" comments as you put it.
i only make those comments when someone starts in on the conversation spewing complete bs that is either completely irrelevant or completely wrong and its someone trying to use google to pretend like they actually know wtf they are talking about, IE your f1 engine comments.
when the person asks a question because they dont know the answer then ARGUES with the people trying to help
people who repeatedly spam the forums with things that have been answered a million times because the mods DO NOT enforce the TOU, they give veteran members who actually have a clue infractions for swearing but completely ignore those people even though it is a offense that qualifys for a infraction as well.
i back up what i say ALL the damn time with facts, dynos, flow charts, research done by others, ect, for EXAMPLE this VERY THREAD i reference the builders of world championship engine building contests so you DONT have to even take my word you simply pick your builder of choice and look at their interviews. people such as yourself and a couple others which i wont mention simply choose to ignore anything i provide that backs up what i say. CHOOSING TO IGNORE IT DOESNT MEAN ITS NOT PROVIDED.
funny i still have people coming to me for help, people still planning out build with me through PM's, people still asking me to help with vehicles if they are local, still asking me when my shop will be open, and well still taking my advice so again your 100% wrong good job not having a clue that tends to happen when you have the quickest spooling high power build on the forum, it might not be the top in power production but it makes more average power then any other car in the same power bracket without a lsx swap, funny how you talk about how I dont provide proof to back up what i say and pretty much say what i talk about is BS yet the person actually doing that IS IN FACT YOU
so again tell me how my credibility is shot because im a ***? guess what vinny ten is also a *** and one of the best builders out there in the import world. when you know wtf your doing that happens, only person who dosnt have any credibility is yourself. i also dont disregard any members opinions HOWEVER when they are using an OPINION to attempt to counter FACTS that i provide yah im going to be condescending because if they are a idiot who trys to disagree with science and results then it should be pointed out that they should be ignored. taking advice from people like that is what has caused this platform to turn into a cluster of false information such as everyone outside here thinking our trans is weak, everyone thinking the engine isnt meant to be boosted like theres something magical about it, engine failure should be expected, rb26 makes just as good of a power curve despite having less displacement and inferior flowing heads....... i can go on all day with the stupid crap people have spewed out that i have become condescending towards because they try to use opinions to counter facts.
just like people went on and on when i built my engine about .003x bearing clearances would ruin the engine because its so much larger then stock and out of specs with absolutely NO engine building experience. yah funny how my engine has more miles then many of them that have SEVERAL built engines even combining their engine miles togeather, im not the only condescending one here.
in fact in case you forgot YOU CAME INTO THIS THREAD CONDESCENDING
i only make those comments when someone starts in on the conversation spewing complete bs that is either completely irrelevant or completely wrong and its someone trying to use google to pretend like they actually know wtf they are talking about, IE your f1 engine comments.
when the person asks a question because they dont know the answer then ARGUES with the people trying to help
people who repeatedly spam the forums with things that have been answered a million times because the mods DO NOT enforce the TOU, they give veteran members who actually have a clue infractions for swearing but completely ignore those people even though it is a offense that qualifys for a infraction as well.
i back up what i say ALL the damn time with facts, dynos, flow charts, research done by others, ect, for EXAMPLE this VERY THREAD i reference the builders of world championship engine building contests so you DONT have to even take my word you simply pick your builder of choice and look at their interviews. people such as yourself and a couple others which i wont mention simply choose to ignore anything i provide that backs up what i say. CHOOSING TO IGNORE IT DOESNT MEAN ITS NOT PROVIDED.
funny i still have people coming to me for help, people still planning out build with me through PM's, people still asking me to help with vehicles if they are local, still asking me when my shop will be open, and well still taking my advice so again your 100% wrong good job not having a clue that tends to happen when you have the quickest spooling high power build on the forum, it might not be the top in power production but it makes more average power then any other car in the same power bracket without a lsx swap, funny how you talk about how I dont provide proof to back up what i say and pretty much say what i talk about is BS yet the person actually doing that IS IN FACT YOU
so again tell me how my credibility is shot because im a ***? guess what vinny ten is also a *** and one of the best builders out there in the import world. when you know wtf your doing that happens, only person who dosnt have any credibility is yourself. i also dont disregard any members opinions HOWEVER when they are using an OPINION to attempt to counter FACTS that i provide yah im going to be condescending because if they are a idiot who trys to disagree with science and results then it should be pointed out that they should be ignored. taking advice from people like that is what has caused this platform to turn into a cluster of false information such as everyone outside here thinking our trans is weak, everyone thinking the engine isnt meant to be boosted like theres something magical about it, engine failure should be expected, rb26 makes just as good of a power curve despite having less displacement and inferior flowing heads....... i can go on all day with the stupid crap people have spewed out that i have become condescending towards because they try to use opinions to counter facts.
just like people went on and on when i built my engine about .003x bearing clearances would ruin the engine because its so much larger then stock and out of specs with absolutely NO engine building experience. yah funny how my engine has more miles then many of them that have SEVERAL built engines even combining their engine miles togeather, im not the only condescending one here.
in fact in case you forgot YOU CAME INTO THIS THREAD CONDESCENDING
lol, and I don't care if you're right, wrong, or anywhere in between. Also, my level of proficiency extends beyond the bounds of my daily Z, but I digress.
Regardless of any of your possibly "intelligent" remarks, the fact still remains that you've been a class-A, 100% D-Bag to members of this forum. Instead of constructing your arguments professionally and oh, maybe backing them up with actual facts and research besides your own repetitive arguments, some of us might actually listen to you.
Your credibility is shot via your disregard of other members opinions/questions and your condescending attitude towards fellow Z owners.
So, guess what; Nobody f&%$ing cares about anything you have to say anymore.
Regardless of any of your possibly "intelligent" remarks, the fact still remains that you've been a class-A, 100% D-Bag to members of this forum. Instead of constructing your arguments professionally and oh, maybe backing them up with actual facts and research besides your own repetitive arguments, some of us might actually listen to you.
Your credibility is shot via your disregard of other members opinions/questions and your condescending attitude towards fellow Z owners.
So, guess what; Nobody f&%$ing cares about anything you have to say anymore.
Last edited by jerryd87; Oct 30, 2013 at 02:43 PM.
IN FACT oh look several thread where nothing of what your saying is happening funny what happens when people dont come into a thread spewing BS with no experience, or how when i actually am wrong in something i have no problem admitting it UNLIKE those people your defending that im condescending towards who could have 10000 people present facts and they would ignore EVERY SINGLE ONE based on nothing more then their opinion and try to spew how their OPINION is somehow fact.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...eed-pipes.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...inder-mod.html
https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-...tch-belts.html
https://my350z.com/forum/maintenance...lp-please.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...al-for-fi.html
in this one the OP and i have exchanged NUMEROUS pm's so he can get his build on track.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...cea-turbo.html
https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-...de-anyone.html
but oh yah no one takes my advice and im always condescending and a *** no matter what. take yourself somewhere else to troll
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...eed-pipes.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...inder-mod.html
https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-...tch-belts.html
https://my350z.com/forum/maintenance...lp-please.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...al-for-fi.html
in this one the OP and i have exchanged NUMEROUS pm's so he can get his build on track.
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...cea-turbo.html
https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-...de-anyone.html
but oh yah no one takes my advice and im always condescending and a *** no matter what. take yourself somewhere else to troll
I just went over this thread myself to see what all the bickering was about. Nearly all (particularly the OP, Jerry, Nathan) have made inaccurate statements to varying degrees, or have clutched at straws to defend a prior claim that is a bit off in reality.
Also, it seems like poor reading comprehension on the other side has led to a lot of unneccesary arguing
Just sayin...
Also, it seems like poor reading comprehension on the other side has led to a lot of unneccesary arguing
Just sayin...
Last edited by 03Screamer; Oct 30, 2013 at 03:27 PM.
Yep it's pretty funny how mad he's gotten trying to defend himself and his arguments.
I also know who you helped with their build. His name is James and is down here in Florida in the same Z group as me. So you suggested higher compression pistons, better rods, better rod bolts, a rev-up oil pump to handle the higher revs, spring & shim kit for the 272 cams, but his power drop off is likely due to the plenum choking his flow after 6k rpms, etc etc and that makes you the go to expert? That's quite readily available information just about anywhere. I really don't care about all your arguments, lets just say for the sake of your ego that you're completely right about everything. Go you. Reaching the top and/or becoming an experienced individual in a certain field doesn't give you the right to act the way you are on here; calling people retards, without a clue, with no experience, etc. My F1 comment was extremely generic. Obviously, I'm not going to treat my engine the same way as I would a championship team built race engine, hence my comment in the first place.
I also know who you helped with their build. His name is James and is down here in Florida in the same Z group as me. So you suggested higher compression pistons, better rods, better rod bolts, a rev-up oil pump to handle the higher revs, spring & shim kit for the 272 cams, but his power drop off is likely due to the plenum choking his flow after 6k rpms, etc etc and that makes you the go to expert? That's quite readily available information just about anywhere. I really don't care about all your arguments, lets just say for the sake of your ego that you're completely right about everything. Go you. Reaching the top and/or becoming an experienced individual in a certain field doesn't give you the right to act the way you are on here; calling people retards, without a clue, with no experience, etc. My F1 comment was extremely generic. Obviously, I'm not going to treat my engine the same way as I would a championship team built race engine, hence my comment in the first place.
Last edited by RENFRO; Oct 30, 2013 at 08:04 PM.
your the one who came in all pissed off about the arguement going on, what i find funny is how people seem to think they can determine a person is "mad" by reading text. good luck with that one i havnt been mad at any part of this entire thread.
so you know ONE of the people ive helped and you think thats the only person ive helped? please quit being so full of yourself ive helped enough that i dont even have a clue who your talking about because i cant think of ANYONE in the past few weeks ive suggested 272 cams to for one.
two there really isnt any intake for the platform unless you get in the 1500+ range(SFR single TB intake one of the cheapest) that REALLY helps higher rpm drop off, have to counter that with boost so good job trying to troll and start another argument with a retarded comment.
nope but considering ive got more miles then alot of people who had there engines built by "professional", and i use the term lightly, shops not only that but more miles then SEVERAL of those people's engines combined, plus the fact that in my lifetime ive got a few HUNDRED if not close to 500 engine builds between performance and stock does make me a expert. thats full out builds too not refresh's or something where we said F it and swapped pistons and rods or just rods and reamed the cylinder or did a quick cheapo drill hone depending what the goal was for the engine.
welcome to the world if you can handle people being a dick stay off the internet and dont leave your house plain and simple that's the way of the world. who gave YOU the right to say i cannot treat people like that? they dont like me for it i could care less mayby they should educate themselves before trying to jump into a conversation with someone who actually knows wtf they are talking about.
also sounds more like your trying to hide behind a excuse with your completely inaccurate f1 engine comment. f1, championship engine, or your street vq they all work on the EXACT same principles you do something to screw it up like porting the intake too smooth its going to behave the same way, the fuel isnt going to mix properly, the engine isnt going to run as well as it should, and the individual who did it looks like a jiffy lube oil changer who shouldnt be allowed any wrench except what it takes to change the oil, and even then only with supervision.
so you know ONE of the people ive helped and you think thats the only person ive helped? please quit being so full of yourself ive helped enough that i dont even have a clue who your talking about because i cant think of ANYONE in the past few weeks ive suggested 272 cams to for one.
two there really isnt any intake for the platform unless you get in the 1500+ range(SFR single TB intake one of the cheapest) that REALLY helps higher rpm drop off, have to counter that with boost so good job trying to troll and start another argument with a retarded comment.
nope but considering ive got more miles then alot of people who had there engines built by "professional", and i use the term lightly, shops not only that but more miles then SEVERAL of those people's engines combined, plus the fact that in my lifetime ive got a few HUNDRED if not close to 500 engine builds between performance and stock does make me a expert. thats full out builds too not refresh's or something where we said F it and swapped pistons and rods or just rods and reamed the cylinder or did a quick cheapo drill hone depending what the goal was for the engine.
welcome to the world if you can handle people being a dick stay off the internet and dont leave your house plain and simple that's the way of the world. who gave YOU the right to say i cannot treat people like that? they dont like me for it i could care less mayby they should educate themselves before trying to jump into a conversation with someone who actually knows wtf they are talking about.
also sounds more like your trying to hide behind a excuse with your completely inaccurate f1 engine comment. f1, championship engine, or your street vq they all work on the EXACT same principles you do something to screw it up like porting the intake too smooth its going to behave the same way, the fuel isnt going to mix properly, the engine isnt going to run as well as it should, and the individual who did it looks like a jiffy lube oil changer who shouldnt be allowed any wrench except what it takes to change the oil, and even then only with supervision.
Yep it's pretty funny how mad he's gotten trying to defend himself and his arguments.
I also know who you helped with their build. His name is James and is down here in Florida in the same Z group as me. So you suggested higher compression pistons, better rods, better rod bolts, a rev-up oil pump to handle the higher revs, spring & shim kit for the 272 cams, but his power drop off is likely due to the plenum choking his flow after 6k rpms, etc etc and that makes you the go to expert? That's quite readily available information just about anywhere. I really don't care about all your arguments, lets just say for the sake of your ego that you're completely right about everything. Go you. Reaching the top and/or becoming an experienced individual in a certain field doesn't give you the right to act the way you are on here; calling people retards, without a clue, with no experience, etc. My F1 comment was extremely generic. Obviously, I'm not going to treat my engine the same way as I would a championship team built race engine, hence my comment in the first place.
I also know who you helped with their build. His name is James and is down here in Florida in the same Z group as me. So you suggested higher compression pistons, better rods, better rod bolts, a rev-up oil pump to handle the higher revs, spring & shim kit for the 272 cams, but his power drop off is likely due to the plenum choking his flow after 6k rpms, etc etc and that makes you the go to expert? That's quite readily available information just about anywhere. I really don't care about all your arguments, lets just say for the sake of your ego that you're completely right about everything. Go you. Reaching the top and/or becoming an experienced individual in a certain field doesn't give you the right to act the way you are on here; calling people retards, without a clue, with no experience, etc. My F1 comment was extremely generic. Obviously, I'm not going to treat my engine the same way as I would a championship team built race engine, hence my comment in the first place.
Last edited by jerryd87; Oct 30, 2013 at 09:30 PM.
you have also missed some of the more complex discussions ive had with some members such as transmission swap and gear ratios associates with them for best launching characteristics/turbo spool as well as rpm drop in said transmissions along with matching rear gears. different types of quick spool systems, that are not even close to the SP setup, and methanol nitrous off the line setups from something i picked up on theturboforums that would be interesting to try out and showed huge gains over standard nitrous/gas combos.