NEW TSB here: 046TSB NTB04-043

http://www.zfilms.org/SportZMag/046TSB%20NTB04-043.pdf

from http://www.zfilms.org/SportZMag/

 

Adjustment warranty extended to 24 month now....GREAT!!! Now I can ask them to pay for all the works!!! It's about time.....I felt rip-off last time Nissan charge me $65 for doing the TSB (swapping the front tires side to side, my Z was 13 month old at the time)......I'll ask to see if they will credit me back the money!

 

Once again they forget about us '04 Z owners. They act like the problem is fixed w/ '04's. In about 3 more months this message board will be full of 04 tire problem posts. As soon as the 04 owners find this website.

 

nah i noe a few 04 z's with no problemz

 

i called the nissan dealer and the manager told me this

but.. i'll still wait n see how the 04's go

 

I would have to agree with a lot of the folks on here. Many people don't know what tire feathering is. I have educated and shown others the problem. Most people just think they have a lot of road noise.

 

I was one of those people. I really didn't notice it until it became really pronounced under braking. Tire feathering at 7200 miles - not bad though.

I expect that the problem should subside. However, if this continues I will push for a new set of tires before the 12/12000 adj warranty expires this August.

 

My BBB hearing is Friday and this TSB is just what I needed for a slam dunk. This tells me that when they did the final TSB and LL repair in January, they knew it wasn't going to hold.

Nissan - Keep them TSB's coming!!

 

that we did not know we had the problem is probably true for a lot of us. I did not know I had it and corrrect it until 17,000 miles. Thankful these boards made me aware of the problem. Must have had the feathering problem begin at least 1000 miles earlier than the fix.

 

Yeah, I didn't know something was wrong until I took my front wheels off and realized that they wouldn't stand up straight, inner side seemed higher or lower . I was putting on new wheels w/So3 and the ride seemed much quiter when brakeing. Anyway , i be putting on my old wheels and taking it to the dealer.

 

Thanks for the update. Seems like NNA is buying time until they come up with a solid fix. At any rate, looks like we'll be getting free tires for a while.

The 2004s should be the tell-tale. At some point soon NNA will have to come public with the cause of the problem on the 03s or include the 04s in the TSB.

 

Thank you VERY much for sharing this TSB!

I just called my Nissan Service Dept. for my 3rd set of front tires at 12,500 miles. They are on order.

NNA Consumer Affairs has not been any help. They don't return my calls and act as though I am the only one. I told them to log on to this site and take a look at reality.

 

I just called my dealer and, armed with this new TSB, got no resistance regarding free replacement of the front tires.

I've been fighting with them since November. I have an appointment tomorrow for "re-confirmation" of the problem and for them to make sure I am still running the same original OEM tires, wheels, and suspension (which I am). I already have an invoice from last year that states I needed front tire replacement. Hopefully I'll get some new front rubber!

Still... it's NOT a fix.

 

Go get your free tires and when they set the TOE to 2mm, the feathering will return to the outer tread blocks.

 

I don't think anyone thinks this fixes the problem. It does mean that NNA is recognizing the problem. I don’t think this warranty extension is being offered as a fix. It's likely intended to buy NNA more time to formulate a real fix without screwing over their customers (entirely). At least this is what I hope.

I can’t imagine that they would voluntarily extend the warranty period and replace the OE tires with the same OE tires if they really didn't think anything else was wrong. They are assuming some responsibility for a problem that they have not yet effectively addressed. This is simply put a stopgap.

NNA is fully aware of the impact this problem has on the reputation of the Z as well as their reputation as a company in general. I expect sometime within the next year NNA will come out with a real fix. In the mean time we get new tires.

 

I think Nissan is doing the right thing with this new TSB. This is a real class act and I'm glad I bought my 350Z.

 

I'm glad you are. Let me guess you have 3-4000 miles and kept the original POS REO's. Hell, you'll be in tires till the cows come home.

But for us preorder buyers who drive their cars and took delivery in August-September of 2002, kiss my a$$ NNA. I have 29,000 miles on my car and my two year is up in August. Oh yeah, because of the lack of movement on NNA's part, I had to go out and buy my own tires and get alignments done because NNA had no clue and stonewalled. Now, as I read this new extended warranty, I would have to go out and buy POS REO 40's on my dime so they can reimburse me 10% of my purchase. All the while driving POS REO40's. No thanks. I'll keep my bitterness and remember that the next time I need a new car. Oh and if you think this is not the fix, you did not read the TSB in full. It is very clear this is thee fix for it.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ezchief
[B]I'm glad you are. Let me guess you have 3-4000 miles and kept the original POS REO's. Hell, you'll be in tires till the cows come home.

i have to agree with the some of the general consensus of us owner who have been privelaged enough to enjoy this car long enough to have it in high mileage, we are getting screwed. I am not all that happy with what was done and what nissan is doing. I just got off the phone with my dealer and they are pissed at it also. they were originally told that this miraculous fix was going to call for four tires on every car that qualified, despite born on date. my dealer had to pay for my two fronts themselves and at the time werent reimbursed and thus they trashed the tires. they have the paperwork but not to the extent that this new TSB calls for. Supposedly it calls for all kinds of measurements to be met and only then will the tires be replaced. in fact in the words of my dealer it looks like nissan made it even harder to qualify for new tires.

Now to address why this sucks for me as an owner. When my dealer put on new fronts at 15k, they were smart enough to know that the OEM 040's sucked donkey di**. They put on the all weather that wear better but unfortunately handle worse. small but noticable. I was told by them that when this letter from god came out i would get all four and the dealer would take back these mismatched. Well now I am stuck with rears that are coming up on 20k, needing to be replaced and fronts that barely have 5k on them, with no way of getting a matched set. and even though I realize that this is a small price to pay to get two free tires it still says something about customer service, it sucks. so for those of you out there who got 4 new tires previously from nissan pat yourselves on the back cause you were the lucky few.

 

ez, read the TSB again. Claim reimbursement from the date you replaced the OE tires, not on your current mileage, I think you have a case based on the onset of wear, not where you are now. They should reimburse you the prorated amount of your new tire purchase because of the wear. Take it to your dealer and present it in that light. You may have a case a lot earlier than now.

 

Hey being a pioneer sometimes suck, but anyone that buys a new car design like the 350Z and even preorders it before they drive it must consider themselves risk takers and pioneers. I've owned over 25 vehicles, from NSX to Dodge 1 ton trucks and what Nissan is doing is better than most of the other brands I have seen over the years handle problems like this. It took a class action law suit to get Acura to address the wear problem on the rear tires of the NSX. Many of you might not realize it but the rear tires on the NSX would wearout in less than 10K miles. As a new owner I appreciate all of you pioneers that have fought so hard to get this problem addressed, I feel that like the NSX problem this one will now be resolved. I got new tires just a couple of weeks ago at only 4400 miles, now it looks like I have another 1 1/2 years of tire coverage until this issue is finally fixed, and I think it will be fixed. Thanks guys for your efforts and I am sorry that some of you are not getting treated as well as you feel you should.