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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Default 36 month anniversary

30, 000 miles.......Got my second set of free tires , new radio, fuel filler thingamajig recall and an oil change.

Glad I didnt have to pay for the headlight module and window motor last year.
But I did get stuck for new rotors this year at 28k and new rear tires at 20K.

Look for my car at VIR in two weeks. It'll have nice big lemon pictures in the
windows.

Time to move on. Hate sticking some unsuspecting person with it but, hey,
I've sold several used English cars too.



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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 03zsmith25
Is this tire feathering issue only on the 2003 model? I heard it was resolved for 2004, but from these postings, it seems otherwise. I have been looking at them and test driving them, and want one so badly, but I am scared to death to get one now. What to do?????
I have a 2004 Z and the tire noise is getting louder. I had my fronts and rears aligned about two months ago and no difference. Sometimes it has to do with the smoothness of the road surface, BUT when coming to a stop going through 30mph there is definitely a louder roaring noise than when i bought the car.

Maybe dumping the car, but hate to do it as it handles like its on rails. Just hard to believe nissan would design a car with no adjustable front suspension to correct for this problem many are having.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Warrior
this has to be the longest thread in history

so whats the bottom line here...will there ever be a resolution either by manufacturer or aftermarket?

please, lets get the rubber meeting the road here...no pun intended
I would say, no. At least probably not until there is a major redesign or freshening of the car itself , then they might address the problem. They will probably act as if the problem never existed and then continue handle lemon law cases on an individual basis, figuring thats cheaper than a recall.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 03:52 AM
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Whoo-Hoo... I just found out that NNA is buying my car back at last and just think, it only took a year to do it. I get charged 10 cents a mile, but I get everything else back. I only have 16k on the car so it won't be that bad.

I should be getting a check from them for about 30k when they give me the drop-off date for the car. Until then, I have to keep making the payments but I get reimbursed for everything now so I don’t really care.

I parked the car in my garage and I don't drive it anymore since I don't want some idiot crashing into me and ruining my buyback.

I went to the BMW dealer and priced out my new car, a 530xi with all options and fatory painted in electric red. Yeah, I'm dumping about 63k into a car, but hey, you only live once.

My other options were a Z06 Corvette or Porsche 911, which I still might do. It just depends on what the wife doesn't object to too much. She wants the Corvette, but this one is my car so I get the final say.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dh21187
Whoo-Hoo... I just found out that NNA is buying my car back at last and just think, it only took a year to do it.
My other options were a Z06 Corvette or Porsche 911, which I still might do. It just depends on what the wife doesn't object to too much. She wants the Corvette, but this one is my car so I get the final say.
Good to hear. Will be looking at a 2006 GTO this saturday that I test drove last week. It has plenty of power, but not the handling of the Z. Oh well, as you or someone else said why keep the Z if it cannot be fixed.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dh21187
Whoo-Hoo... I just found out that NNA is buying my car back at last and just think, it only took a year to do it. I get charged 10 cents a mile, but I get everything else back. I only have 16k on the car so it won't be that bad.

I should be getting a check from them for about 30k when they give me the drop-off date for the car. Until then, I have to keep making the payments but I get reimbursed for everything now so I don’t really care.

I parked the car in my garage and I don't drive it anymore since I don't want some idiot crashing into me and ruining my buyback.

I went to the BMW dealer and priced out my new car, a 530xi with all options and fatory painted in electric red. Yeah, I'm dumping about 63k into a car, but hey, you only live once.

My other options were a Z06 Corvette or Porsche 911, which I still might do. It just depends on what the wife doesn't object to too much. She wants the Corvette, but this one is my car so I get the final say.
Excellent.. Can all the owners of the lemon - get what you got?

Cheers Amy -
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Just got growl at 17,000 miles, extend warranty is over. Do you think a dealership will still fix the issue? I already e-mailed one dealership, nothing yet.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bostonian
Just got growl at 17,000 miles, extend warranty is over. Do you think a dealership will still fix the issue? I already e-mailed one dealership, nothing yet.
Not sure it could be fixed unless you go to an aftermarket front suspension setup.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DAYTONA-ZED
Not sure it could be fixed unless you go to an aftermarket front suspension setup.
Well, the car will be paid off in September and it is just a summer car, garaged all winter. I plan on keeping this car until I am old and gray. So a aftermarket setup is probably in my future. I will wait a few years before I do it and the rate I am going, it should only be 1 other set of tires. I am going to rotate them this weekend, hopefully I can get another 17,000 after that.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1G-350Z
It would be great if we can get a recap... Just a list of things to do, like the new allignment specs... New Camber A-arms? If that would help... ETC....
That would be great. Has anyone been able to fix this issue with an aftermarket setup for any lenght of time/miles? 10,000-20,000?
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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So does getting different tires fix the feathering issues. IE not getting stock replacemsnts but completely different tires.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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I test drove some 2004.5 350z touring today and the car pulled to the right.

This car had 20" wheels on it and it was flush and clean...

What issue could cause the car to pull to the right?
Would a minor alignment fix this?

Does this have anything to do with the feathering issue?

I dont hear any weird noise at low speeds and mine was built on 3/2004

carfax is clean w/ 1 owner and 19k miles...

Any suggestions? Do I buy it for 30k?
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MyIS300
I test drove some 2004.5 350z touring today and the car pulled to the right.

This car had 20" wheels on it and it was flush and clean...

What issue could cause the car to pull to the right?
Would a minor alignment fix this?

Does this have anything to do with the feathering issue?

I dont hear any weird noise at low speeds and mine was built on 3/2004

carfax is clean w/ 1 owner and 19k miles...

Any suggestions? Do I buy it for 30k?
If you dont mind driving a manual tranny just get a new 06 base model then upgrade or mod as you go along. They may have addressed the front suspension issue on the 06's.
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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sorry it's a roadster touring
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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the car i was thinking of purchasing has Stern ST1 Face III Beast 20" on there... not sure what tires how will I know if I will face feathering/pulling to the right issue?

because these are new tires I dont see the wear on the inner tires yet... how can I tell?
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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So I've read about 20 pages of this, but don't have tme to read it all. The bottom line is, I'm an engineer who does chassis and suspension design. What's WRONG with the suspensiuon? Is it an inability to adjust the suspension enough? Just too much toe? too much camber? What is everyone's impression of the problem? If there's a way to fix the geometry, what is it about it that requires (mabye) aftermarket suspension?

-Chuck

Edit: Feathering and cupping sounds like a damping/springing issue, to me. Excessive waer on the inside alone would be a toe or camber issue. What happens when you run less negative camber, and add damping?

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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why is nissan the only one with this much bad press? When I owned an is300 I never faced any issues, period.

I want to get a 2004.5 350z touring roadster, but afraid of the quality of the car..
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gtmule
So I've read about 20 pages of this, but don't have tme to read it all. The bottom line is, I'm an engineer who does chassis and suspension design. What's WRONG with the suspensiuon? Is it an inability to adjust the suspension enough? Just too much toe? too much camber? What is everyone's impression of the problem? If there's a way to fix the geometry, what is it about it that requires (mabye) aftermarket suspension?

-Chuck

Edit: Feathering and cupping sounds like a damping/springing issue, to me. Excessive waer on the inside alone would be a toe or camber issue. What happens when you run less negative camber, and add damping?
Camber isn't (wasn't) adjustable.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Camber isn't (wasn't) adjustable.
It seem to me liek that'd be the issue to look at, more than getting the toe DEAD nuts. I know racing Formula cars 1.5 deg is a LOT, I should think even moreso on a mcpherson strut car like a Z. I assume people make camber kits for 'em, does this help?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gtmule
So I've read about 20 pages of this, but don't have tme to read it all. The bottom line is, I'm an engineer who does chassis and suspension design. What's WRONG with the suspensiuon? Is it an inability to adjust the suspension enough? Just too much toe? too much camber? What is everyone's impression of the problem? If there's a way to fix the geometry, what is it about it that requires (mabye) aftermarket suspension?

-Chuck

Edit: Feathering and cupping sounds like a damping/springing issue, to me. Excessive waer on the inside alone would be a toe or camber issue. What happens when you run less negative camber, and add damping?
+1...lets get to the bottom of this...is aftermarket the only way to fix this problem?

i have aftermarket suspension and i have no problems...so maybe your on to something

but the fact of the matter is...there is not enough stock adjustment so there really is no stock solution. that sucks for those who want to remain stock but will forever be stuck with this problem...unless nissan steps up and gets a solution other than replacing tires
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