so you are saying 2004 models are not experiencing the feathering? ... If not what has changed? i will buy the new parts just to resolve this crap

 

If they put this new suspension on 04's, then why do 04's still have the tire feathering issue? I have seen posts in here with problems on the 04's already.

 

Yeah, 04's still have this issue! Aaugh! Nissan isn't out of the woods yet.

Once again, for the last time, let's not get all pissy about it anymore on this forum, lets have an all out protest infront of NNA headquarters!!!

SERIOUSLY FOLKS!!!

Do you want to be finally heard or what?!?!?

 

If you check out the Autoweek article it states that the changes are being phased in to the 2004 line...Seems that the current 04s are pretty much the same as the 03s...The new 2004.5 is supposed to have the new euro setup...Can't wait to see what the differences will be...Stiffer Shocks, Stronger Bushings, Better Alignment dodads...basically everything you forum members have been saying is the problem is probably going to be on there??!!

The real proof will be when someone from this forum can get their hands on one of these 2004.5s 350Z TypeE's, Jack'er up and see what the hell is different. That and some part numbers from the dealer...

 

WOAH! Just read the article! Sounds like they found the problem. Only additional problem is all of us with the "Renault" suspension. Talk about quietly admitting guilt!

I already have my CSR talking to TECH to get the part numbers and items involved-- I want the swap. NOW! As soon as I am armed with part numbers, I am calling the Gardena office to ask them about all of us with the faulty suspensions. When they say it was not faulty then I will ask why they are changing it then. Auto companies are not going to make a major redesign early like this if there was not some sort of problem. They admit it in the article. Euro-tuned suspension setup for all 350Zs, a handling setup that Nissan says provides a much better ride and better overall suspension compliance.

What more can I add- We are about to get screwed if we don't have them make it right for us too.

I will inform all as to the part numbers and My phone results.

We are very close to the end of this one!

 

Some people have said that when they went to a different tire manufacturer, the feathering did not come back. Is this true, and what tires did they get? I have been thinking about Pilot Sport.

 

Different tires don't fix the issue. They just extend the mileage that you will see the issue, since tires such as the Pilot Sports have a higher tread wear. IMHO everyone with the stock suspension has this issue. It just shows up differently depending on mileage, road condition, and driving habits.

 

grebmohr - that sounds good...please keep us informed of the information you dig up. if the new suspension indeed resolves the issue, then we MUST all get together and demand that the fix be done our 03 cars

 

There is a shipment of RE04's coming out of Bridgestone on 11/21. Tirerack is showing the "fronts only" are on backorder and NNA has confirmed this today on the phone with me. My NNA rep called me to inform me the tires will be at the dealership Friday. The parts mgr has been TOLD by NNA that he needs to confrim the speed rating before he calls me - since the last time I wasted an entire day (10/31/03).

I'm still moving forward with the BBB AutoLine and Florida Lemon Law since I have lost all truts in Nissan. The BBB gave me a case # and NNA is now on the clock to set up a final repair within 10 days. They have 10 days from the time I drop the car off to repair the care completely. If it is not repaired within the total 20 days - well bye bye Brickyard.


Good luck to others!!

 

Bill Bosley, VP Customer Service NNA told Jamie Copenhaver, Head of Nissan Consumer Affairs, to call me with regaurds to the fax that we sent them. He left a message on my voice mail saying that he would like to talk to me about the letter and left his direct phone number 310-771-3355.

This could be a great opportunity for ALL of you to call and leave a message with Jamie to report your cupping issue with your 350Z.

The more people call him and let him know that we are ALL experiencing this problem and that NNA customer service is giving us BS stories and that they give each person a different story, the greater chance we can get this issue addressed and aknowledged.

Please call if you can.

 

I just sent an e-mail to Autoweek's Editor, Rich Ceppos. I outlined our tire/alignment problems and told him 2003s and early 2004s have the problem and NNA has told some of us we will NOT GET THE REFIT. I have no idea if it will be published, but it might. Get those part numbers and get them here online and we will hound Nissan for the fix night and day. I guarantee I will.

 

yep I got the usual BS from NNA. they even told me the TSB is a one-time repair, and alignment is not included in the repair (contrary to what is written in the TSB).

so far i've gotten tire swap, no alignment, and the problem seems to be coming back.

i will be calling the head of NNA consumer affairs just to bug him.

i'm pissed now. neither my service mgr or NNA will take responsibility for even getting the TSB done in its entirety, and i'm just shocked by that.

if any of you guys need manpower to call & complain, i'm your man.

 

I too just sent a letter to Rich, Autoweek's Editor and Natalie, Autoweek's Road Test Reporter, outlining my issue with the tires cupping.

Ian

 

I would call Jamie Copenhaver, Head of Consumer Affairs and let him know your frustration with the trie cupping issue and NNA BS reply to your complaint.

 

So... Did you call him back or what? What did he say!?!?! :P

 

Your service mgr is beyond da pipe - I own a BASE 350Z with STOCK wheels and 17 INCH tires (just shouting so the dumbass can hear me). Duh...

 

Thanks. Even a sucessful LL case helps, sorry to hear that's how it goes. No f*ing idiot would suggest mixing the tires F&R for a car like this, what bad concept - harder compound up front and very soft in the rear, or vice versa - take your pick , a recipe for significantly changing the handling and the safety for the driver.

THAT is really sad - WTF, who cares about a car vs. PEOPLE, who can't be replaced by LL actions or recalls, anything that is so stupid to infringe on your safety is ...hard to describe.

 

Assh*les. Or slow learners, take your pick - I really disrespect people who lie who cannot even come up with a decent line of BullSH*t, WTF do they think we are? IDIOTS???

Apologize for my choice of words but this is without question the worst dumbass mistake these assh*les have made to date.

I wouldn't count on selling another MILLION Z's with the new "FLAGSHIP" - maybe a mil MAXIMAS or some bastard hybrid POS, but they're gonna hit a brick wall selling Z's as the word gets out.

Sh*theads.

 

I was corrected, by service manager, at 12000 miles when I said this is a real quality issue for Nissan's flagship automobile. He told methe Maxima was their Flagship. Pissed, I responded "so I guess I spent 10K too much then"

I would not put RE040s on my car again if you paid me, completely gone at 12,000 miles. Pilot sprts completely gone at 15,000 miles.

Tired of waiting for NNA, I just bought 4 S03 Pole positions to try this time. not putting them on till I find out about my new "european tuned suspension" that NNA will be helping me buy.

total BOGO - btw, I test drove a Boxter. hope I don't have to buy one.

Maybe NNA is not as responsive as before because of the thousands of roadster top/frames they have had to replace in the last few months or so. Another bit o quality work.

 

I think it has to do with rolling changes that have not hit the dealer floor yet. Early 2004 are all we have seen and they have identical suspension as 2003.

If I am guessing correctly, they have incorporated the NISMO suspension, or a variant, into the new cars. People who have made this upgrade do not have the porpoising and wear problems like stock jobbies do. That is my hope, at least.

edited--- I just checked Japanparts.com and see that there is a suspension upgrade listed under Nissan's name, not NISMO, that includes:

Part# 039-003-001 BILSTEIN SPORTS SUSPENSION KIT
w/ Springs x 4(Front x2 &Rear x2), Shock Absorber Kits (Font (LH&RH) & Rear x2) and Rear Stabilizer
Front Anti-Bar +Bushes, STREET Use ***These contents are Available Separately.*** Z33 JP ¥168,700.00 US $1,547.92

That could be the 2004.5 upgrade

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I also hope the upgrade includes some form of Alignment adjustment, other than toe.