I'm not going to get caught up in any debates about this.

The "censorship" in this thread was merely removing posts that are tantamount to saying "AAM are poopy heads and I don't like them"

if you have a post that contains some REAL CONTENT then go ahead and post it.

I am not here to censor the truth. But we can do without the dog-piling.

If you have a problem with this that's really too bad... the rules have been made clear now all that's left is for you guys to post in a civilized manner, and leave out the comments that are meant to take cheap shots without qualification or justification, and to stir the pot.

I'm a moderator and I'm moderating. Don't mind me. I'm not pro/anti-AAM and I'm not friends/enemies with any of you. I am just doing my job, and this is what it's like to be in the middle. If you can't see that, you're nothing more than a conspiracy theorist, and your opinions are simply unfounded.

 

OK then why didn't you just post the part in bold, and leave out the sophomoric comments in your previous post?

 

Every time this kind of thread comes up, somebody brings up the slippery slope analogy. You are not the first person to think that "oh snap, now NOBODY will be able to post ANYTHING negative about ANY shop without getting BANNED" but this is simply not true.

First of all, I have no interest in the mighty dollar and I'm not paid from the site.

Please try to understand the content of my posts in this thread.

If you read everything in this thread linked here:
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/309144-fi-forum-conduct-it-s-best-that-you-all-read-this-updated.html


then you should understand why this thread is being moderated the way it is.

 

Guys, if we really wanted to censor stuff we'd just delete and move the whole thread.

 

Ask VRT, they were refunded their sponsorship fees.

 

Since we have so many mods in here-I have a legit question.

Why is it over the past year just from what I remember 4 AAM threads have dissapeared that started like this one? That being somebody posting negative experience's, and as to be expected we have some negative comments then GONE.

Like Corey said-at what point does a forum become useless to its client base/paying customers (US!) when people voice their experiences and threads get deleted? Not everybody that has had a negative experience at AAM or any shop that has "wasted" thousands or even hundreds of dollars can post with tact-put yourself in people's shoes just a little more before censoring posts or deleting threads all together. Sometimes I wish I was part owner of this site, Id clean some things up for sure...

 

This moderating procedure apply just to FI threads in regional sections or to other aspects of the build process?

Say if someone has a bad exhaust install experience somewhere....do the "FI rules" apply in that situation...??? Or not since it's not FI.......

 

This applies everyhere. Especially when the OP starts a thread out of FI thinking the rules don't apply. That is not what happened here but has happened before. I understand why this was created where it was. I have now moved it so there is no confusion.

 

Berto, I found 3 threads deleted. 2 were deleted due to the OP's request and the other one someone started post a bunch of pics

 

I dont think this thread should have been moved from the Mid-A. Reason it was posted there was because we have had tons of "AAM did a great exhaust install" threads lately that were suspect. OP-wanted to provide the local community his insight. Also, another member already linked the FI section to that thread. Not telling you what to do, just voicing my opinion Funny how somebody contacts OP's and they decide they want threads closed, but that isnt our call. BTW-there have been more than 3 not counting the stupid thread with the pics.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/317917-hot-water-over-fi-install.html

 

It applies when it's deemed necessary for it to be applied regardless of where it is posted... because it is merely an extension and an interpretation of the TOU. If there were any REAL new rules then they would be added to the TOU.

Edit: I actually hate pulling rank, but

the ideal case would be for everyone to use common sense so no staff members are forced to pull rank and interpret the rules under this "absolute power" clause to punish any individuals. Even if there is no explicit rule breaking going on, believe me--people who push the limits of the rules and cause constant grief to the admins/moderators will be subject to this clause.

 

This thread should have stayed in the MID-A... IMHO.. I'd run it by the OG poster to be sure.

 

Didn't know about the link. I'll move it back. I went into the QP (our deleted section) and searched "aam" and only found three. There might have been more prior to that. I'm not sure what happend to Brent's thread. It it's either older or still in the FI section, just waaaay back.

 

Brent has been sitting on the sideline and keeping himself to just reading the threads these days.
Everybody knows what happened and where I stand on on my expereinces there.
--B

 

Exhaust installs are wayyyyy diffrent from FI installs even the newbs should be able to decipher this. It is a quick simple bolt on and alot of people are happy with them, just a few minor issues that I fully agree shouldn't still be happening (rattling, clearances, etc.) And anyone that posted positively about thier exhaust & experience should be treated the same as someone who was discouraged with thier service. It is a PERSONAL OPINION and everyone is entitled to thier own. Bringing up the past at this point is %100 unecessary. My personal exhaust install was great and I had no problems at all, I wasn't asked to post about it. I did it on my own because I was impressed.

Everyone should be weighing the +/- to these threads for themselves, there is info. galore like "frank is an excellent mechanic" or that the guy who screwed up the JWT was terminated!! He isn't still there doing installs it was adressed promptly from what I'm reading. They are offering to work with and fix all of the problems it seems to me as well. I understand going back and forth back and forth really really sucks but at least they are doing something (they could be doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if they didn't care)

let's say that for instance; you want a nice exhaust and you want it quick AAM may be the best choice being local (no mail order/shipping/hassle). If you are "affraid" to use them for FI or tuning, don't use them it's very simple.

 

I agree exhasut install is waay different that an FI setup. So let me ask you this. How does one impress someone by installing an exhaust? The fact that it doesn't leak? Most people here install them in their driveways w/o issues.

 

droppedit-lets agree to disagree, having a newb watch somebody do something as simple as an exhaust holds no merit IMO compared to the bigger issues older members have faced. You are right people can post about experiences both good and bad, you cant get mad at old members who still post their negative experiences in hopes of "saving" somebody else, that isnt living in the past thats relevant info.

 

Bert, you notice how much AAM is marketed throughout this website. Think how much $ they're paying to the website for the exposure. That is why they make the threads disappear. my 2 cents.

 

Then why is this still here?

 

Bryce i have to disagree with your statement.They(aam)produce great products as i have just bought some with will.......today.Will was very good on the phone as a good sales person is supposed to be.Now as to the service mike gives that is completely different,i can post here from a pm sent to mike last year on how can i get more power out of my stillen stage4.Well i had allready checked with everybody i could.
I was told by mike if i spendt about $4000 bucks i could get quite abit more power out of the maxed out little m62 blower.Well i allready checked with everybody that i respected first and was told..........there is no more power to get out of the stillen.
Well take it for what it is worth.