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Re: Re: Re: Woops
Originally posted by 1Redline350Z
Crustangs/Cobras, whatever, are all engine covered in a big turd; and a dressed up turd is still a turd.
Crustangs/Cobras, whatever, are all engine covered in a big turd; and a dressed up turd is still a turd.
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the 350Z's are beautiful cars, and quick as well
however, IMO, you're going to have to mod a bit to mess with a stock 96+ cobra-these cars can run 13.7+ all day long before even being modded.
as far as the 99+ GT's, that will be close. from a raw HP/TQ perspective, i think the GT would win, but i'm not sure.
i've yet to race any new Z's, but i'll fill you in when I do.
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however, IMO, you're going to have to mod a bit to mess with a stock 96+ cobra-these cars can run 13.7+ all day long before even being modded.
as far as the 99+ GT's, that will be close. from a raw HP/TQ perspective, i think the GT would win, but i'm not sure.
i've yet to race any new Z's, but i'll fill you in when I do.
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Originally posted by zogan
Why are we even taking the time to talk about mustangs. They will never be in the same leage as the Z. I pulled up next to one, guy ask me if I was driving "daddy's car", so I asked him if he was driving "Mommy's Car". Mustangs are a dime a dozen, look at them, it is something you buy your 16 year old daughter for xmas. They are in the same leage as a Camaro or Grand-AM even. The Z is inovative and original. Now I am mad I have just waisted one minute of my time writing this dumb thread.
Why are we even taking the time to talk about mustangs. They will never be in the same leage as the Z. I pulled up next to one, guy ask me if I was driving "daddy's car", so I asked him if he was driving "Mommy's Car". Mustangs are a dime a dozen, look at them, it is something you buy your 16 year old daughter for xmas. They are in the same leage as a Camaro or Grand-AM even. The Z is inovative and original. Now I am mad I have just waisted one minute of my time writing this dumb thread.
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Originally posted by BoostedStang
I understang, but those times were on stock tires with the presure droped, my 99 GT went 13.97@99 Bone Stcok, so I know for a fact it is a 13 second car, and gears and slicks and it will go low 13's, and for supercharging the Z, I have a strong feeling the 03 would still win, 390 HP, is alot!! And it has even more torque!!
I understang, but those times were on stock tires with the presure droped, my 99 GT went 13.97@99 Bone Stcok, so I know for a fact it is a 13 second car, and gears and slicks and it will go low 13's, and for supercharging the Z, I have a strong feeling the 03 would still win, 390 HP, is alot!! And it has even more torque!!
A 350Z would have to add 110 RWHP with that SC to equal the power. There is no replacement for .........! (without TTs!)
I want a TT350Z!
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Man you some of you guys are arrogant jerks. I dont feel the need to insult the 350Z, so why do you feel the need to insult my Mustang. The Mustang lives up to the pony car tradition solid axle fairly strong V8 affordable performance. I you dont believe me look at the original. It was never designed to be the fasttest car, just a cheap relativly fast fun car. The Z started life the same way. Now its evolved into a rather expensive personal luxury sports car and if thats your thing great. My thing is no power options no leather no A/C no sound deadening removed seats so just accept it. I dont come down on you unless your sitting next to me at a stoplight revving the sh*t out of your engine and telling me my mustang or camaros a POS. Then I'm going to do my best to humiliate you. I think thats fair dont you. I mean wouldnt you get annoyed if somebody a car thats not in the same category as yours did that to you. And Im not saying that stock my Mustang would beat, Hell it ran 14.7 new but with all that I invested I think its changed categorys, and yes I think my Z28 would win, but since I drive it like once ever month I dont Im going to get any 350z races, especially where I live. And respect the 350Z very much, thats why I joined this forum to see what the owners have to say, and to share the automotive experiance, but some of you guys act like your Zs are Ferarris or something just lighten up and remember just cause you like imports more than domestics doesnt mean you have to be overly insulting to them.
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Oh my god what is wrong with you people?
I read the first few pages of this, and you people are simply dillusional. It is so hard to read the crap that some of you people believe.
Z vs. a new Mustang GT? PLEASE. Even if the Z can eek out a win, a NEW GT COSTS 20k, and HAS an aftermarket! A Z STARTS at 26k. You can make a GT a HELLUVA a lot faster than a Z and STILL have a bunch of cash left over. I'm not even going to MENTION what Cobra would do to a Z... ANY COBRA, from 93 to present.
As for handling, the Z was slower around the road course than an S2000 in Car and Driver. And in Road and Track, a Camaro SS was faster than the S2000 (and Boxster S and BMW M Roadster)around the road course. So if you think about it, a Camaro SS would seem to have the edge on a Z in the turns...
So what you're left with is a car that YOU THINK has a nicer interior. Well, sure, you can think that. And all this turbo-kit crap... You're NOT going to run much boost on a motor with compression as high as that in a Z's motor. SO now you're looking at new pistons and internals. Well, that's not going to be cheap, and an '03 Cobra with a pully and exhaust is STILL going to mess you up in EVERY contest (including handling, see Car and Driver where the Mach 1 narrowly trails the Z, and I think it's safe to assume a Cobra will outhandle the Mach1).
I'm sorry, but your only arguement is that you think the Z is more refined and better looking. And that's an opinion that not everyone will share.
I read the first few pages of this, and you people are simply dillusional. It is so hard to read the crap that some of you people believe.
Z vs. a new Mustang GT? PLEASE. Even if the Z can eek out a win, a NEW GT COSTS 20k, and HAS an aftermarket! A Z STARTS at 26k. You can make a GT a HELLUVA a lot faster than a Z and STILL have a bunch of cash left over. I'm not even going to MENTION what Cobra would do to a Z... ANY COBRA, from 93 to present.
As for handling, the Z was slower around the road course than an S2000 in Car and Driver. And in Road and Track, a Camaro SS was faster than the S2000 (and Boxster S and BMW M Roadster)around the road course. So if you think about it, a Camaro SS would seem to have the edge on a Z in the turns...
So what you're left with is a car that YOU THINK has a nicer interior. Well, sure, you can think that. And all this turbo-kit crap... You're NOT going to run much boost on a motor with compression as high as that in a Z's motor. SO now you're looking at new pistons and internals. Well, that's not going to be cheap, and an '03 Cobra with a pully and exhaust is STILL going to mess you up in EVERY contest (including handling, see Car and Driver where the Mach 1 narrowly trails the Z, and I think it's safe to assume a Cobra will outhandle the Mach1).
I'm sorry, but your only arguement is that you think the Z is more refined and better looking. And that's an opinion that not everyone will share.
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Originally posted by SpyVO
Oh my god what is wrong with you people?
I read the first few pages of this, and you people are simply dillusional. It is so hard to read the crap that some of you people believe.
Z vs. a new Mustang GT? PLEASE. Even if the Z can eek out a win, a NEW GT COSTS 20k, and HAS an aftermarket! A Z STARTS at 26k. You can make a GT a HELLUVA a lot faster than a Z and STILL have a bunch of cash left over. I'm not even going to MENTION what Cobra would do to a Z... ANY COBRA, from 93 to present.
As for handling, the Z was slower around the road course than an S2000 in Car and Driver. And in Road and Track, a Camaro SS was faster than the S2000 (and Boxster S and BMW M Roadster)around the road course. So if you think about it, a Camaro SS would seem to have the edge on a Z in the turns...
So what you're left with is a car that YOU THINK has a nicer interior. Well, sure, you can think that. And all this turbo-kit crap... You're NOT going to run much boost on a motor with compression as high as that in a Z's motor. SO now you're looking at new pistons and internals. Well, that's not going to be cheap, and an '03 Cobra with a pully and exhaust is STILL going to mess you up in EVERY contest (including handling, see Car and Driver where the Mach 1 narrowly trails the Z, and I think it's safe to assume a Cobra will outhandle the Mach1).
I'm sorry, but your only arguement is that you think the Z is more refined and better looking. And that's an opinion that not everyone will share.
Oh my god what is wrong with you people?
I read the first few pages of this, and you people are simply dillusional. It is so hard to read the crap that some of you people believe.
Z vs. a new Mustang GT? PLEASE. Even if the Z can eek out a win, a NEW GT COSTS 20k, and HAS an aftermarket! A Z STARTS at 26k. You can make a GT a HELLUVA a lot faster than a Z and STILL have a bunch of cash left over. I'm not even going to MENTION what Cobra would do to a Z... ANY COBRA, from 93 to present.
As for handling, the Z was slower around the road course than an S2000 in Car and Driver. And in Road and Track, a Camaro SS was faster than the S2000 (and Boxster S and BMW M Roadster)around the road course. So if you think about it, a Camaro SS would seem to have the edge on a Z in the turns...
So what you're left with is a car that YOU THINK has a nicer interior. Well, sure, you can think that. And all this turbo-kit crap... You're NOT going to run much boost on a motor with compression as high as that in a Z's motor. SO now you're looking at new pistons and internals. Well, that's not going to be cheap, and an '03 Cobra with a pully and exhaust is STILL going to mess you up in EVERY contest (including handling, see Car and Driver where the Mach 1 narrowly trails the Z, and I think it's safe to assume a Cobra will outhandle the Mach1).
I'm sorry, but your only arguement is that you think the Z is more refined and better looking. And that's an opinion that not everyone will share.
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Hey guys, once you beat the damn lowly Mustang GT's (which you had better be modded for, and lowly is relative, I mean no disrespect to GT owners), come after us LS1's. The Humble Pie will be thrown directly in the faces. Ive already taken 3 Z's out, Im aiming for a cocky Z owner ownage monthly quota of 5. One of these was in the Bentley, guess the guy has never seen one before but he was shocked.
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Originally posted by C My Tails 350Z
Hey guys, once you beat the damn lowly Mustang GT's (which you had better be modded for, and lowly is relative, I mean no disrespect to GT owners), come after us LS1's. The Humble Pie will be thrown directly in the faces. Ive already taken 3 Z's out, Im aiming for a cocky Z owner ownage monthly quota of 5. One of these was in the Bentley, guess the guy has never seen one before but he was shocked.
Hey guys, once you beat the damn lowly Mustang GT's (which you had better be modded for, and lowly is relative, I mean no disrespect to GT owners), come after us LS1's. The Humble Pie will be thrown directly in the faces. Ive already taken 3 Z's out, Im aiming for a cocky Z owner ownage monthly quota of 5. One of these was in the Bentley, guess the guy has never seen one before but he was shocked.
you're a total homo....what are you 15 years old????
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Haha, may I ask why you think that a) my sexual preference is important and b) what makes me a homo and immature about this post. It just seems that alot of the 350Z owners are just about as cocky as they can be about their cars and dont think that anything can beat them. I simply go around informing them of how dead wrong they are.
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Wee see a Z06 has 405HP, wheras I have just unfer 500 to the real wheels. That should help, and as for Chicago, I am willing to bet I am better off in life that you are, the cost of my mustang alone cost way more than you car, but I guess I am a hillbilly huh, I am 24 have my own 2 story home, in a very nice area of Texas, I own two cars and one happens to be a newer model Lexus GS. So you really are stupid, and even stupider for thinking your car beat a Cobra, the way you talk jhust proves how gay you are, you ****ing homo, look at yourself in that picture looks to me like you just a had a nice big black **** inserted in your ugly ***!! **** you, my car will out handle your looks better, and will rape you in a strait line, and if you want to talk about class, I will jump in the lexus and make your Nissan look like a pinto, so screw you, you ****ing ******, and If I looked like you beleive me I would not be posting pics of myself on the net!!
Wee see a Z06 has 405HP, wheras I have just unfer 500 to the real wheels. That should help, and as for Chicago, I am willing to bet I am better off in life that you are, the cost of my mustang alone cost way more than you car, but I guess I am a hillbilly huh, I am 24 have my own 2 story home, in a very nice area of Texas, I own two cars and one happens to be a newer model Lexus GS. So you really are stupid, and even stupider for thinking your car beat a Cobra, the way you talk jhust proves how gay you are, you ****ing homo, look at yourself in that picture looks to me like you just a had a nice big black **** inserted in your ugly ***!! **** you, my car will out handle your looks better, and will rape you in a strait line, and if you want to talk about class, I will jump in the lexus and make your Nissan look like a pinto, so screw you, you ****ing ******, and If I looked like you beleive me I would not be posting pics of myself on the net!!
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Originally posted by C My Tails 350Z
Haha, may I ask why you think that a) my sexual preference is important and b) what makes me a homo and immature about this post. It just seems that alot of the 350Z owners are just about as cocky as they can be about their cars and dont think that anything can beat them. I simply go around informing them of how dead wrong they are.
Haha, may I ask why you think that a) my sexual preference is important and b) what makes me a homo and immature about this post. It just seems that alot of the 350Z owners are just about as cocky as they can be about their cars and dont think that anything can beat them. I simply go around informing them of how dead wrong they are.
I don't mean "homo" in a sexual preference meaning, just what the hell was with your comment??????
if you really "did" own a Bentley (which I HIGHLY doubt you do) then why the hell would you be posting on these internet forums trying to egg people on.
Seriously...why are you wasting your time here??? Do you really have NOTHING better to do????
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I frequent many boards and recently found out about this one. Everything I have said has been more in a lighthearted tone rather than a malicious (its 3 am, dont bother me about my spelling) one. I am on the internet because no, I really dont have anything better to do at 3 am on a Tuesday night.
About the car, I do own a 2001 Bentley Azure as part of my collection but Im not going to argue with you for the only possible way to prove is me providing pictures, which could very well have been taken by somebody else of somebody else's car.
About the car, I do own a 2001 Bentley Azure as part of my collection but Im not going to argue with you for the only possible way to prove is me providing pictures, which could very well have been taken by somebody else of somebody else's car.
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Those are some very nice cars you have there C my tails 350z, but I might only a few of these guys are being jerks most of the others are conceding reality. You have to remember this is a brand new car and people are going to be rightly proud of it. Give it a few years on the street and people will be realistic about its performance. I remember when the LS1 first came out, Mustang guys were saying its only got 20 more ponys than an LT1 just a few mods here and there and we can take. yeah right!! live and learn. Car and driver does a less strenous slalom than MT. The 350z clearly rules in MTs posting 67mph to the SS 62mph and the C5 66mph the ZO6 does win with a 70 mph.
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Originally posted by sukkoi19
Those are some very nice cars you have there C my tails 350z, You have to remember this is a brand new car and people are going to be rightly proud of it. Give it a few years on the street and people will be realistic about its performance.
Car and driver does a less strenous slalom than MT. The 350z clearly rules in MTs posting 67mph to the SS 62mph and the C5 66mph the ZO6 does win with a 70 mph.
Those are some very nice cars you have there C my tails 350z, You have to remember this is a brand new car and people are going to be rightly proud of it. Give it a few years on the street and people will be realistic about its performance.
Car and driver does a less strenous slalom than MT. The 350z clearly rules in MTs posting 67mph to the SS 62mph and the C5 66mph the ZO6 does win with a 70 mph.
And who said anything about slalom? I said ROAD COURSE, as in Thunderhill Park. Not cones in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
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Originally posted by SpyVO
It'll go down in history just like the 300ZX did. Neat car, but nothing special. And as for the TT 300ZXs? Again, neat, but still pretty rare.
And who said anything about slalom? I said ROAD COURSE, as in Thunderhill Park. Not cones in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
It'll go down in history just like the 300ZX did. Neat car, but nothing special. And as for the TT 300ZXs? Again, neat, but still pretty rare.
And who said anything about slalom? I said ROAD COURSE, as in Thunderhill Park. Not cones in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
Yea, and the STOCK F-body and Mustang handle AWESOME
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Yea, and the STOCK F-body and Mustang handle AWESOME
Yea, and the STOCK F-body and Mustang handle AWESOME
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Originally posted by C My Tails 350Z
About the car, I do own a 2001 Bentley Azure as part of my collection but Im not going to argue with you for the only possible way to prove is me providing pictures, which could very well have been taken by somebody else of somebody else's car.
About the car, I do own a 2001 Bentley Azure as part of my collection but Im not going to argue with you for the only possible way to prove is me providing pictures, which could very well have been taken by somebody else of somebody else's car.
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Originally posted by SpyVO
Um, yeah that's right. You're kidding if you think that a Z is WAY ahead of those cars, right?
Um, yeah that's right. You're kidding if you think that a Z is WAY ahead of those cars, right?
Second, you have a problem with reading comprehension. In the above posts you stated that the S2k was faster around the road course per C&D. Re-read it again and you will find that the Z is the fastest of the comparo.