New dyno numbers: 294 rwhp
12-07-2007, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rednezz
Here is a dyno graph of one of the first dyno pulls after correcting the A/F ratio and timing but with stock VTC angles versus my latest dyno with the same timing table but corrected A/F and additional cam advance 2800 rpm to 6600 rpm.
12-07-2007, 04:17 PM
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cool i am putting down 270/265 with bolt ons so hopefully cams will put me in the 290s
thanks for the heads up rednezz
thanks for the heads up rednezz
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12-07-2007, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielW
why is there that dip in the tq curve at like 1500 rpm?
and why did you lose hp between 2k and 2800?
and why did you lose hp between 2k and 2800?
We change the VTC angles down low but I think they are not correct. I think they advance too quickly. I need to find a good ball park for how fast the cam advance angle increases. That may also get rid of the dip at 1500 rpm but I won't no till I get another tuning session.
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12-07-2007, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by baby_ruiner
cool i am putting down 280/265 with bolt ons so hopefully cams will put me in the 290s
12-08-2007, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rednezz
What kinda of dyno did you use? I only put down 264 with boltons on a local dynojet which wasn't the same dyno I dyno'ed the 294.
12-08-2007, 05:47 AM
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Great topic, this thing of breaking 300 rwhp on N/A have been in discution for long time now... my brother "Javi" was one of the first back in 2005;
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....highlight=Javi
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....highlight=Javi
12-08-2007, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
You really do live up to your screen name...congrats on being the king of taking things out of context
I said that about MY car with my setup, not about anyone else's. My engine mgmt choice doesn't afford me the ability to adjust VTC angles, nor would my cams even derive a substantial benefit by being able to reprogram them in the first place, as they are far milder than the cams being used on rednezz's car. If I ditched the UTEC and went with a standalone, then yes, I could adjust VTC as well, but at this time, I don't think it's worth the investment for me to do so. I am more than happy with my torque curve and horsepower curve, so I see no reason to change my engine mgmt at this time.
Withy rednezz's setup, obviously vtc mapping is critical - with mine, it's not
I said that about MY car with my setup, not about anyone else's. My engine mgmt choice doesn't afford me the ability to adjust VTC angles, nor would my cams even derive a substantial benefit by being able to reprogram them in the first place, as they are far milder than the cams being used on rednezz's car. If I ditched the UTEC and went with a standalone, then yes, I could adjust VTC as well, but at this time, I don't think it's worth the investment for me to do so. I am more than happy with my torque curve and horsepower curve, so I see no reason to change my engine mgmt at this time.
Withy rednezz's setup, obviously vtc mapping is critical - with mine, it's not
You are one of the reasons I hate tuner shops. Complete talk out of your ***.
12-08-2007, 09:46 AM
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Im not being condescending at all - a little projecting going on? I could care less if you like me, or don't - I don't have an inferiority complex.
I've been in this (350Z) community a long time now, and to my knowledge, no one else's car is putting down what mine is, to date, in terms of a street driven daily driven car. I know of several VQ's out there putting down great numbers, but they are more radical builds, for race cars. If someone else's car is making more power than mine - good for them! That's what I want to see - it's what makes the community thrive. As I've said many times, my car, while it has alot of work done, is not a crazy engine build, because that is not what I wanted. There is alot of time and alot of man hours, but not the craziest of parts. I could have gone much wilder, and chose not to, or couldn't, based on parts available at the time. I didn't build my car to win any sort of mythical hp war - I could care less about it in fact, and I have nothing to prove to anyone. I built it for my enjoyment, and to learn about the car, and that's exactly what I've done. You on the other hand seem to relish in turning every post you make into into a battle - not something I care to partake in.
Way to muck up the OPs thread btw - kudo's. Perhaps look up "couth" in the dictionary one of these days, you could use a boatload of it.
I've been in this (350Z) community a long time now, and to my knowledge, no one else's car is putting down what mine is, to date, in terms of a street driven daily driven car. I know of several VQ's out there putting down great numbers, but they are more radical builds, for race cars. If someone else's car is making more power than mine - good for them! That's what I want to see - it's what makes the community thrive. As I've said many times, my car, while it has alot of work done, is not a crazy engine build, because that is not what I wanted. There is alot of time and alot of man hours, but not the craziest of parts. I could have gone much wilder, and chose not to, or couldn't, based on parts available at the time. I didn't build my car to win any sort of mythical hp war - I could care less about it in fact, and I have nothing to prove to anyone. I built it for my enjoyment, and to learn about the car, and that's exactly what I've done. You on the other hand seem to relish in turning every post you make into into a battle - not something I care to partake in.
Way to muck up the OPs thread btw - kudo's. Perhaps look up "couth" in the dictionary one of these days, you could use a boatload of it.
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12-08-2007, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
Im not being condescending at all - a little projecting going on? I could care less if you like me, or don't - I don't have an inferiority complex.
I've been in this (350Z) community a long time now, and to my knowledge, no one else's car is putting down what mine is, to date, in terms of a street driven daily driven car. I know of several VQ's out there putting down great numbers, but they are more radical builds, for race cars. If someone else's car is making more power than mine - good for them! That's what I want to see - it's what makes the community thrive. As I've said many times, my car, while it has alot of work done, is not a crazy engine build, because that is not what I wanted. There is alot of time and alot of man hours, but not the craziest of parts. I could have gone much wilder, and chose not to, or couldn't, based on parts available at the time. I didn't build my car to win any sort of mythical hp war - I could care less about it in fact, and I have nothing to prove to anyone. I built it for my enjoyment, and to learn about the car, and that's exactly what I've done. You on the other hand seem to relish in turning every post you make into into a battle - not something I care to partake in.
Way to muck up the OPs thread btw - kudo's. Perhaps look up "couth" in the dictionary one of these days, you could use a boatload of it.
I've been in this (350Z) community a long time now, and to my knowledge, no one else's car is putting down what mine is, to date, in terms of a street driven daily driven car. I know of several VQ's out there putting down great numbers, but they are more radical builds, for race cars. If someone else's car is making more power than mine - good for them! That's what I want to see - it's what makes the community thrive. As I've said many times, my car, while it has alot of work done, is not a crazy engine build, because that is not what I wanted. There is alot of time and alot of man hours, but not the craziest of parts. I could have gone much wilder, and chose not to, or couldn't, based on parts available at the time. I didn't build my car to win any sort of mythical hp war - I could care less about it in fact, and I have nothing to prove to anyone. I built it for my enjoyment, and to learn about the car, and that's exactly what I've done. You on the other hand seem to relish in turning every post you make into into a battle - not something I care to partake in.
Way to muck up the OPs thread btw - kudo's. Perhaps look up "couth" in the dictionary one of these days, you could use a boatload of it.
HAHAHA. Good post.
12-08-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by baby_ruiner
dj, i can email you my charts, im in atl if that is any difference....ive dyno tuned twice on the dj....its shown to be accurate since my buddy's stock 03 track put down 228/223 on the same day
12-08-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by webcarconnection
Great topic, this thing of breaking 300 rwhp on N/A have been in discution for long time now... my brother "Javi" was one of the first back in 2005;
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....highlight=Javi
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....highlight=Javi
12-09-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
You're gonna need head work + cams to get there... Then higher compression + higher rpms to break 300.
12-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rednezz
webcarconnection...good to see you posting here again. I also remember you being one of the few stock 350's running 13.6's and didn't you hit over 280+ rwhp NA?
Hey long time no see, good to know that your been keeping up the good work on your Z...
Yes back in the days I was lucky enough to do 13.6 all stock, and also put around 285 with some bolt-ons... that was the good old days
12-09-2007, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin XAT
Would you happen to have a SAE or Uncorrected Graph of the dyno run ? STD correction skewes things on the plus side unfortunately.
Martin
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This is uncorrected.
12-10-2007, 04:34 AM
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Just to put my .2 in here. After I got done porting and polishing my 05's engine it was not until I swapped out the factory headers that I saw the largest gains. I would realy look into Long tube or like headers. Here was my graph before and after headers on my 05. I can only belive that you should see better gains with your set up.
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12-10-2007, 04:09 PM
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Motordyne's 1/2 inch spacer, or Crawfords manifold would both net you more power in the higher rpm ranges.
As for the cam timing changes, was that only limited to 6600rpm on the mrev motor, compared to the Rev-up with VVT on intake and Exhaust sides, and a higher redline?
As for the cam timing changes, was that only limited to 6600rpm on the mrev motor, compared to the Rev-up with VVT on intake and Exhaust sides, and a higher redline?