Notices
Nitrous Oxide Too soon, jr.

Installing your Nitrous yourself?....Read this first

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:58 AM
  #1  
Speedracer's Avatar
Speedracer
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,144
Likes: 1
From: West Springfield, MA
Default Installing your Nitrous yourself?....Read this first

For those of you who are under the impression that this is a relatively easy task, it is far from it. The main issue is that the Nitrous kits are general application systems, and therefore the installation instructions are FAR from complete. There is a HUGE amount that you need to figure out for yourself. This is a very cumbersome and time consuming thing if you are installing the kit for the first time on a Z. Figuring out how and where to run the lines and safely secure them, where to mount the bulky solenoid assemblies and accessory parts, where to mount the switches in a functional and cosmetically acceptable place, etc. is all left up to you. The kit only has basic wiring diagrams. Where to tap into, splice, run wires is all left to you. And while the kit comes with a bunch of connectors, the instructions don't tell you what goes where. That is for you to figure out.

The wiring is very complex for a comprehensive system. Over 40 connections for a NX stage one with GenX2 accessory package and remote bottle opener. Again, it is up to you to figure out how to get all the wires routed around and through the vehicle, where to tap into power sources, etc.

Finally, if you want the installation to look "professional" you need to figure out all the custom fabrication for that end of it too.

Now.....if you've done it once before, the second time is going to be MUCH MUCH easier, but if this is DIY install on your own car, chances are you haven't done this before on another Z.

So, if your gonna do this yourself, for the first time, plan for a lot of time...most of it in figuring out the how's why's and where's of the install. You will also need a lot of patience. All that wiring is very tedious work.

I'm smack in the middle of right now. If it doesn't work when I'm done, I just may put a gun to my head in frustration!!!!
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 03:37 PM
  #2  
mrtomcat's Avatar
mrtomcat
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,697
Likes: 0
From: Studio City, CA
Default

I agree that you need to do a lot of detecitve work on what goes where but once you know that only basic electronic knowledge is needed to do the install.
I did my last kit myself and back then I knew diddly about cars but it was working the first time around.

In terms of the Z I have to say the most difficult thing so far is where to mount the bottle to have the race track required blow down tupe and having it mounted tough enough so that you pass tech. And since I want to keep my spare tire in there this makes it even tougher.

Bottomline is the most amount of time goes into planing and doing your homework.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:35 PM
  #3  
Speedracer's Avatar
Speedracer
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,144
Likes: 1
From: West Springfield, MA
Default

Originally posted by mrtomcat
I agree that you need to do a lot of detecitve work on what goes where but once you know that only basic electronic knowledge is needed to do the install.
I did my last kit myself and back then I knew diddly about cars but it was working the first time around.

In terms of the Z I have to say the most difficult thing so far is where to mount the bottle to have the race track required blow down tupe and having it mounted tough enough so that you pass tech. And since I want to keep my spare tire in there this makes it even tougher.



Bottomline is the most amount of time goes into planing and doing your homework.
I agree, the knowledge required is basic, but the planning is what takes so long and actually running/soldering of all that wiring is tedious work. I guess I was a little surprised at the amount of electrical involved.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:59 PM
  #4  
Z BOY's Avatar
Z BOY
Registered User
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,264
Likes: 1
From: CA
Default

cyberz350 has a huge thread on the install.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 05:33 AM
  #5  
Speedracer's Avatar
Speedracer
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,144
Likes: 1
From: West Springfield, MA
Default

Originally posted by Z BOY
cyberz350 has a huge thread on the install.
I read Cyber's thread. I actually used some of the info for my own install. What the thread doesn't tell you is actual amount of wiring involved, especially when you start adding some of the highly recommended accesories. Anyway, I'll post some pics of my own install when it's done.

I just wanted to let people know who were thinking about nitrous, and thinking that it is a "simpler" solution than an FI system. I think the actuall install time for a nitrous system with some basic accesories is just as significant or longer even than some of the FI kits that are out. The FI kits have very specific instructions on installation since the kits are specifically designed for the Z.

When I'm finished with my install, if I have time, I'll put together a SPECIFIC step-by-step install guide for a NX kit with GENX2 and remote bottle opener, and get it up on this website.
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 06:40 AM
  #6  
Jeff@Performance's Avatar
Jeff@Performance
Sponsor
Performance Nissan
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,765
Likes: 1
From: Duarte, Calif
Default

Sometimes there is a lot to be said for keeping it simple. This is the set up in my Vette. When we do installs for customers we make it easy and simple. If I had it to do over some of the "toys" would have been omitted. Granted it depends how much you want to spray as well. This is a 150 shot on forged motor with an ATI supercharger. Just wanted to show how far you can take this.



Reply
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 09:02 AM
  #7  
mrtomcat's Avatar
mrtomcat
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,697
Likes: 0
From: Studio City, CA
Default

very clean install I like this a lot, I'm going to do something similar with this install, having learned a lot from the last
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 05:23 AM
  #8  
topfri's Avatar
topfri
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
From: atlanta
Default

anyone know a ball park cost for a shop to do an install?
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 06:20 AM
  #9  
Jeff@Performance's Avatar
Jeff@Performance
Sponsor
Performance Nissan
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,765
Likes: 1
From: Duarte, Calif
Default

We charge $450/$500 for the install plus parts depending on how the customer wants it set up. Our installs are pretty much hidden (under the hood anyway). The bottle is a bit hard to conceal. We also disassemble the throttle pedal from the car and have fabricated a pretty nice WOT activation switch that mounts in it. The next car we do, I'll post up some pictures.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 07:33 AM
  #10  
spdu4ia's Avatar
spdu4ia
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 658
Likes: 0
From: Baton Rouge, LA
Default

Originally posted by Jeff@Performance
We also disassemble the throttle pedal from the car and have fabricated a pretty nice WOT activation switch that mounts in it. The next car we do, I'll post up some pictures.
is this better than a TPS switch? also if you know off hand which wire is the TPS wire and were is it?
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 03:08 PM
  #11  
mrtomcat's Avatar
mrtomcat
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,697
Likes: 0
From: Studio City, CA
Default

TPS is always better because it connects directly into the ECU so there's no getting stuck...
The pin is 50 even though I believe there's a second tps pin (i saw that on the edelbrock install)
bottonline check first, you need to get a 4 volt signal while at wot
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
XM 1
Engine & Drivetrain
29
Jul 10, 2022 07:44 AM
Extreme Dimensions
Southern California
0
Sep 24, 2015 03:35 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:47 AM.