sooo i idle thru a red light at 5:30 am when no one was around... not a soul... then flash flash... i was almost blinded by the white light....

I am thinking.... this can't be... a photo opportunity for Fremont police???

yes, i received my ticket a week later... for running a red light... OUCH!

Has anyone experienced a photo ticket... and what are the chances to get out? or ways to get out of this one....

my insurance co will be very very not happy with me... or very happy with me cu's they will raise my rate...

 

Tell them it was your evil twin brother Dennis!

Goodluck man!!

 

I always wonder they got you by the License Plate number. What if you go to court and said a friend was driving your car? All moving violations should go to the driver, not necessarily the owner of the car!!

 

damn technologies... there were 3 pictures... one with the RED light and car behind the line, another showing driver face in the car, another one showing the car in the middle of intersection...

the ticket claim there are video associated if requested....

i hate technologies.....

i recall being to traffic court... and the red light one is hard to avoid....

since no cop is involved here... i can't pull that the cop did not show up trick.....

 

damn dennis. that sucks. kinda tough to get outta it if they have pics of the light, the car, and you. maybe traffic school will avoid your insurance rates to go up.

it may be time to take off your front plate!

 

PM sent to you . . . good luck

 

thanks mgl... yeah, no front plate... really suck'd just before heading out to the track....

i will have to goto court and see what happens....

not looking forward to it... since i think i took traffic school sometime last yr for another stupid thing.....

sigh... when i don't try.. i get busted.... ha!

 

got the pm, muchos gracias!

 

Sucks bro... I thought of your front plate, but then I remembered another Z member recently that got his red light run ticket also... but they got his REAR plate on camera!

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=89387

Taken in AZ. Whatever you do, good luck.

 

I am not sure how much work it would be for you to research, but I had heard on the news that these tickets are actually against California law because you are only supposed to be ticketed by the officer that actually witnessed to infraction.

 

Maybe they consider the camera "an officer". :P

 

yeah.. i actually did a lil research... and they claim that the camera is a speed trap and there is a traffic code against using it.

It also claim that the judge do not have to agree with it.... for some reason...

I am just thinking that i see these things all over Ca..... and just don't want to **** off the judge by throwing some vehicle code at him and claim this is illegal.... but it may work!!!???? should i take the chance......hum......

 

Sorry to hear they got ya. I'd do what you said above.. what's the worse that can happen. It's not like an excessive speeding ticket where the judge could take your license, you know? Believe me, red light tickets fines are INSANE! I got one last year and it was about $400 bucks.. but I actually got pulled over so I couldn't argue it Good luck whatever you do!!

 

Some aruge that photo radar infractions (both redlight and speeding) are unconstitutional because in court you have the right to face your accuser. However, the Oregon state court of appeals ruled this doesn't apply to photo radar (for speeding) because its not a criminal case (traffic tickets do not result in jail time). On the other hand the state of Alaska ruled photo radar (again for speeding) as an unconstitutional violation of the 6th ammendment right to due process.

There was a lawsuit in 2001 in San Diego where something like 400 tickets were dismissed. Unfortuneatly, the judge upheld the constitutionality of the program. The tickets were dismissed because the city gave the contractors who provided the equipment too much control of the program and because they were paid via a revenue sharing agreement.

Therefore, I believe the only way you'd get off is if you hired a lawyer to find a technicality with respect to your situation (camera hasn't been calibrated in x amount of days etc). Which probably won't be worth it as a lawyer would cost more than paying the ticket. If you can't make out your face clearly in the picture, you could always say that it isnt you. But that would be lieing under oath, which I would never do nor recommend.

And finally, its not an illegal speed trap. Illegal speed trap law only applies to speeding infractions

 

thanks goku, you sound like you have a lot of knowlede about the law...

"Automated enforcement systems are illegal speed traps because their sensors measure the speed of your car as you cross a measured distance in the road (two sets of inductive loops). A speed trap is defined in 40802(a) (1) as:"A particular section of a highway measured as to distance and with boundaries marked, designated, or otherwise determined in order that the speed of a vehicle may be calculated by securing the time it takes the vehicle to travel the known distance." So clearly, automated enforcement is an illegal speed trap.

In a chapter of the California Vehicle Code appropriately named "Illegal Evidence", code section 40801, Speed Trap Prohibition, states: "No peace officer or other person shall use a speed trap in arresting, or participating or assisting in the arrest of, any person for any alleged violation of this code nor shall any speed trap be used in securing evidence as to the speed of any vehicle for the purpose of an arrest or prosecution under this code."

Certainly "any alleged violation of this code" would include alleged red-light violations in which a speed trap is used, not just speeding tickets."

Do you think this excuse will fly in NorCal's traffic court?

 

Drivers With No Front Plates Are Never Cited

I believe automated enforcement is unfair because it only targets honest drivers. Section 5200(a) of the California Vehicle Code requires that every car have a front license plate. Honest drivers have front plates and are fully subject to automated enforcement and the highest red light fine in the United States at $271. These honest drivers are also subject to a conviction point on their DMV record and a hefty insurance increase for a least three years.

Drivers who illegally remove their front plate are not subject to automated enforcement at all, since their vehicle cannot be identified. At worst, they might get $10 fix-it ticket. Is this fair? A dishonest person can easily avoid automated enforcement entirely by removing their front plate. A dishonest driver can also freely run red lights at camera-enforced intersections, secure in the knowledge that traffic cops have been reassigned elsewhere.

I have no front plate!!! but they have a pic of my back plate.....

 

LeMansZCa...

You might want to try fighting this ticket by mail, if thats an option. Its often easier to be concise and articulate when communicating by letter. Also, when fighting a ticket by mail...you can (and should) kill them with TMI as the person reviewing your letter might just gloss over what you've written and dismiss your case.

You may have something there to work with though, especially if your speed was stamped on the image. Check out how red light cameras work here: http://people.howstuffworks.com/red-light-camera1.htm

As a side note, I'm not a lawyer...I just have strong disdain for certain tactics used by police (such as red light cameras, DUI checkpoints, etc)

 

I am suprised at the people saying fight he. He admitted he rolled a red light.

That is illegal and dangerous.

 

I would fight it based on principle alone. Commiting an infraction and being found guilty of commiting an infraction are 2 completely different things.

The intent of red-light cameras isn't to promote safety, its to generate revenue. You want to know why the amount is so high? 1/3rd of the amount goes to the vendor who installed the system.

 

just sent in my request for trial by written declaration!

I believe the cameras are there to generate revenues for the traffic dept after all of the budget cut in our gov...

I noticed on my street that cameras are popping up because this neighborhood was targeted to have the best chance of generating revenues... most ppl around here "can" affor the $341 ticket....

This is just not right!