I've been on this forum for YEARS and the first group of people I called out was VRT, and all the little fan boys gave me crap about it - do a search...

Yes, Julian and I had our little beef (and I was just one of many) which is over now that we have a much gentler, kinder Julian...

As for Relentless (formerly VRT), all things will be exposed in due time like they ALWAYS are...

 

I'm sure they will

as well, so have I, and I called out VRT as well, so I don't get your point.

now you are dragging someone else into this matter. I spoke to scott about this months ago and he gave me his side of the story (chronicled in one of the VRT threads). if you think something, have the ***** to talk to him and ask him yourself like I did.

so unless you really have substance to your accusastions, keep them to yourself. and if you do have knowedge and aren't telling anyone then again, great going.

 

You really are priceless Philthy.

 

All will come out in due time padawan...

 

Thanks, if the shoe fits...

 

again that is great. if you have proof post up, if not... shut up

and again, I will reiterate: if you have proof or know something about a shop that is ripping off customers and don't tell anyone, you are just as bad. so if stuff does come out about RA in the future, you can be sure I'll dig up your post and make sure to let people know you could have helped them avoid the situation.

 

and I didn't mean 'shut up' harshly, it just rhymed, so I used it.

also, I was not insinuting I think R.A. has done anything wrong by any of my comments. I do not think they have.

(knows people read into things)

 

Hmmmm... if RA was formerly VRT then why is Scott at JWT every week? You really really should stop now. Calling me names and you don't know me. Accusing
people of things. Fan Boy? You have got to be joking right?

 

It's been well documented the association between VRT and RA, people can proceed at their own risk...

RA has already been called out by several people (other than me) such as, post pics of your shop? (or is there no shop? is it a VRT home base operation? or is it I work out of my Mommy's house when the Camry is not in the garage?) where are the 100's of TT installs you claim you did? RA passively/agressively blasting FP over the last few weeks in an effort to what, self promote? Very VRT! etc...

 

I haven't seen RA bash forged, but I know you are associated with forged, so is this passive bashing by forged as well since you talk to sharif so much? come on man.

also, what connections beyond the mechanic/owner of RA having worked for VRT in the past? financing, what?...

also, I have not seen RA called out by anyone yet, if you could link me (you can PM) to these call outs, It'd be appreciated. I have also never heard them boast what kind of shop they have. have they purported to have a 10 bay garage or something?

 

Oh great, the using JWT as validation - like we didn't hear this same story/tactic dozens of time from the VRT crew (Scott included) – and believe me, I’m not the only one that see a clear distinct pattern here…

First you want to kill the VRT awareness campaign, and now you want everyone to forget that Scott was part of VRT - sounds like a Fan Boy to me... Why are you so concern about it if you aren't?

It sucks that this is public forum for you guys, doesn't it...

 

^lol.

 

Wow!
Your writing below is propaganda mixed with childlike emotion and language. And now you sound like you are trying to pit RA against FP? For what?
Where are the customers complaining about RA? Where are they? Wheres the rip off's? The bad installs? Where are they?
I would really like to know, because i just picked up the contract to support Factory Scion in the 08 Speed World Challenge Series for carbon composites.
And i cannot .. will not tolerate being involved with shady shops. So where's your proof? Your pissed off customers? Where are they? Scott comes to my HOUSE every week, he is a trustworthy friend. And everyone that knows Scott knows this. So keep up the bashing, it will only backfire on you. I know Scotts mechanic, who happens to be my mechanic. So you realy are making a
terrible mistake bashing him.

 

My appologies, you're clearly not a fan boy....
















































Sponsor of RA > Fan Boy of RA........

 

Is your shop your house too...?

 

I think you might have missed my first post on this thread on page 15...
I wrote:
I heard about what was happening with this car some time ago, probably around
the beginning of the year. Mike A. wanted us to make carbon doors and had offered the doors from this Z to take molds from. I could not believe what i was hearing. I saw some pretty amazing behavior at the track as well, driving customer cars to the track only to put the wheels onto his rumble bee. It made me sick to see it. Because those of us in this business work our butt's off to maintain our reputations, it makes us or breaks us. Using Tanner Faust,
(allthough Tanner probably did not realize), to drive his car. Using the legitimate reps of good people to prop up himself. Taking credit for achievements he had nothing to do with, but i think he can best be described as a predator with a serious jones for adrenaline. Whatever it takes.... whoever needs to be ripped off or lied to in order to keep the money rolling in.
To keep the jones satisfied. I know Jim Wolf is probably sick to his stomach as well. And i am truly amazed that Mike A. had some members hoodwinked for so long. I am reminded of a show i watched, called "Mind Control" with Derren Brown. Mike A. has a dangerous asset that is his charming personality.
His confidence in the face of confusion and suspected scandal was the norm for him. Hopefully everyone can put this behind them, knowing that this shop
was an anomally that should never have existed. And not lose enthusiasm for these great cars and the people who own them.
The word around the El Cajon water cooler is that Mike A. is now a Gigolo trying desparately to keep his very existence afloat. Casa De Alvarez is rife with drama. But you know, i think he actually likes it that way.

So while your dumb *** sits here accusing people of this and that with no facts whatsoever.... we are all left wondering if you will just stop. Because while doing this, and you are probably not smart enough to realize .. but you are unwittingly dragging FP into needless drama. There will be no winner in this game you are playing.

 

I'm not FP, I'm a consumer and potential customer - Actually I'm a customer of yours too - bet you didn't know that...

All the things you posted about VRT are true, but it took awhile for all of the customers/fan boys/sponsors to find out... BUT, I and a select group of others were calling them out from day ONE!

Calling me a dumb *** because I (like several others) question RA operations/claims is just unprofessional.

 

I called them out from day one too.

 

Here we go again with Phillthy and all his "knowledge" . I for one try to avoid reading his threads all togrther, and anyone foolish enough to put much merit in something someone like Phillthy says is almost just as foolish. Some poeple just seem to like talking out of their "you know what"

Just my observation, for what its worth. And Phillthy, don't bother pulling any of your BS on me, I am not that gullable. And for the record I am NOT a fan boy of anyone, just an observer. Good night, all





Curtis

 

OK Mr 38 posts all against VRT and pro RA...