Thank You first of all for the e-tunes I know I have enjoyed your generosity. I also know you all are working diligently on the user tuner version. I would like to say that I am disappointing that uprev is cutting off this feature before the user tunable version is available. I personally would use the etune less if I could tune the car myself. Just my input.

 

I'm with you.
I'm one of the ones that took advantage of the etunes and started using the map switching ability as 2-step to launch the car. Having said that, Jared was helping me find the right RPM, and that took a few etunes that I didn't mind waiting for.
If had the user tunable version, I would have never bother Jared, since I could change my RPM limiter and tune my own car as I swap parts back and forth.

I truly believe UPREV should wait until after the release of OSIRIS 2.0 to make this change, unless the release is that soon! Is it Tomorrow?!

 

We have to make a transition. It's going to upset some people, but honestly I don't think we've had too many previous customers request eTunes lately. 95% of the eTunes we've done in the last month were for new customers, and we're not stopping support for eTunes.

Also when the End User Tunable product comes out, the people with that will have zero support from Uprev, you'll have to at that point turn to the Pro Tuner network, and each Pro Tuner will have their own pricing for support with those customers. Similar to what you have with Utec, except without funky hardware and text files

 

Not certain yet what features we're finalizing on, still debating here what is concrete for the release. It will be posted on our new website as soon as we're certain.

 

Sounds like the user tunable is getting close.

UpRev
Please say it's true.

 

so osiris 2.0 will be another price? im kinda confused....is 2.0 the user tunable program update or are we talking about something completely different?

 

i thought i read somewhere that it was going to be a free update for people who already had osiris and cipher

 

I can't be positive - but I'm pretty certain it was always referenced as "free for now" type thing...

 

Should be free for current owners, yes.

 

Free upgrade for current owners, but the support from us ends as soon as you get it. You'll have to turn to Pro Tuners for support with any End User tunable products.

 

And yes I am still at work at 10:36pm on a Thursday night before the 4th of July.

 

^ which is why we love you

Richard right? This is Gurbir, just got the email for shipment notification of the osiris package
Were you able to check if map 2 had throttle optimization checked? I tried to email you guys, but it bounced back
Many thanks!

 

What does "support from us ends" mean. Does that mean no etunes at all?

What I'm afraid of is that it means I can order the current version w/ preset maps based on my current mods and get 3 free etunes. But if I opt to wait for the end user tuner version there are no preset maps and no free etunes.

Just want clarification, because I would like the initial free etunes as a base to start, then I would want the end tuner version to tweak my tune as I add mods. My main concern is there are no pro-tuners near me (st. louis) ... that I know of, so I would have NO support.

I was considering this as my next mod sometime this month. My laptap is currently getting a new motherboard installed so I will have to wait until I get it back anyway.

 

Would there be any effect on inspections? Here in NJ they hook the car up to the diagnostic port as part of the inspection process to look for emissions codes. Would the car fail after a reflash?

 

it still gives the codes...they won't know it's reflashed

 

cool. thanks.

 

hm so its either have etunes tune with you guys, or get end user and tune on own without you guys tuning with etunes....am i correct. if so....idk, i think im gona stay with you guys cuz i dont know of any tuners around me, other than MRC (new jersey) but not quite sure if they tune.

 

Pretty much yes. The idea behind the end user tunable version is that you don't need us for tuning. You're either going to tune it yourself or take it to someone that knows about tuning. You don't get free eTunes with the stand alone or piggy back systems, so we're going to compete with those systems by allowing you to tune the car yourself as if you had one of those systems.

For the majority, people that want the 3 free eTunes and eTune support, we'll still be offering the current setup.

 

Oh crap. That's not good if you leave features out. I've been waiting before requesting an eTune to see what I could do on my own (in regards to eliminating CEL codes). I better just get one of my eTunes now just in case this feature doesn't make it to the user tuneable version...

Don't release that product just yet - I need a few days to get my **** together! (have to get rid of the MAF and see what codes are thrown, then I will have a final list). Jeez - guess I better get that work done asap.

 

eTunes will still be available for $50ea. The End User Tuning software will allow access to base tunes, but you'll still have to take on the actual tuning. We will have a forum on the new site that will allow End User Tuning customers to discuss things, and to share their base tunes our share knowledge they gain while using the product. Though we will not be supporting the product or offering any warranty or claim about the product. If you download a tune someone else is sharing and you destroy your motor, that's between you and the internet We'll try and sticky user generated guides and find some people to moderate the forums so that End Users can help themselves, and we're going to try putting together a Wiki or KnowledgeBase for users to update and access.

All these things are still up in the air, and we're trying to balance the Pros/Cons of them along with doing what would be the best thing for the customers without having to raise the price. If we offered support for End User Tuning, the product would cost $1500+ instead of $900, simply based on the number of people we'd have to hire to field the barrage of calls, and having space for them to work. We think it to be wiser to spend the extra $600 on going to a Pro Tuner and paying for some tuning to get set up then maybe do some training to learn how to adjust certain aspects of your tune. Once again, End User Tuning isn't for the masses, so we have to weigh all options to find the right balance before we release it.