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Old 04-24-2008, 09:02 AM
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I will vouche that his Dyna pack is right on spec with the local Dyno Jet 500 feet away..
Old 04-24-2008, 09:26 AM
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perhaps a crazy question, but what's the nasty dip I see in the torque curve between 2 and 3k caused from?
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Originally Posted by Mansmind
perhaps a crazy question, but what's the nasty dip I see in the torque curve between 2 and 3k caused from?

Late night tuning! Loading the dyno all screwed up!
Old 04-24-2008, 09:38 AM
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not to bash your results or anything, but that torque reading is a little weird. it shouldn't drop off so much from 6k - 7.5k.

anyway, if that setup is helping the car that much, i may have to look into that. thanks for posting the work.
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Originally Posted by mcarlomagno
not to bash your results or anything, but that torque reading is a little weird. it shouldn't drop off so much from 6k - 7.5k.

anyway, if that setup is helping the car that much, i may have to look into that. thanks for posting the work.
What is your comparison...? If it's a dynojet it's the scale of the graph.
Old 04-24-2008, 09:55 AM
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wow i completely retract my statement. my bad.

looking where your baseline peak was, it doesn't look like your numbers are inflated compared to dynojet.
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Originally Posted by mcarlomagno
it doesn't look like your numbers are inflated compared to dynojet.
They are not...
My car made 489 on their DYNAPACK, and then made 490 on Altereds Dyno Jet, same day, same conditions..
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Ive duplicated numbers from properly set up Dynapacks to Dynojets plenty of times.

Nice numbers man. I was wondering when someone would just try to wire in some kind of older piggyback.
Not all that hard to hook up at all.
I also wondered if an AFC would work. Not sure on the specifics of our MAF's, but if the Eman worked, likely the AFC would too.
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Good results, happy to see cheap piggybacks will be an option.
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Originally Posted by Peak350
Good results, happy to see cheap piggybacks will be an option.
It's always an option, just need an idiot to try it out. - That's me!

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Old 04-24-2008, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
It's always an option, just need an idiot to try it out. - That's me!
So when do you think you can tell us how to wire it, my buddy is giving me one for $50 barely used. I need to know what to do, do i jump on it or what.
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
It's always an option, just need an idiot to try it out. - That's me!
I know, but its more the - an option with instructions - part that I like.

BTW, any reason you didn't try tuning the spark too?
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Originally Posted by chinny
So when do you think you can tell us how to wire it, my buddy is giving me one for $50 barely used. I need to know what to do, do i jump on it or what.
i'll post my diagram in a later on today.
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Originally Posted by Peak350
I know, but its more the - an option with instructions - part that I like.

BTW, any reason you didn't try tuning the spark too?
Pure laziness... I really don't think I would pick up much power right now by advancing the timing. I also didn't want to hack my whole harness up just for a Emanage Blue...

I log the factory ecu and 6.5k and above the factory ecu wanted to run 30+ degrees of advance, that is aggressive compared the standard DE. Honestly my next big project will be using a vmanage before I put the cams in the car.

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Originally Posted by PM-Performance
Ive duplicated numbers from properly set up Dynapacks to Dynojets plenty of times.

Nice numbers man. I was wondering when someone would just try to wire in some kind of older piggyback.
Not all that hard to hook up at all.
I also wondered if an AFC would work. Not sure on the specifics of our MAF's, but if the Eman worked, likely the AFC would too.
I am sure I could have used any of the old school devices for fuel control. I have never been a big fan of the AFC, I had one on my old 2.5rs though.

$100 for a Emanage can't go wrong. It also has input for both maf sensors. I doubt it is doing anything with the second signal since it only have one 0-5v maf out. But that is another reason i went with it.
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Isn't max advance (or ideal advance) 37 degrees? Thats awesome to hear the factory ECU is throwing that much timing at the motor, and I'm very curious to see what the V-manage nets you.

Any advantages to an ultimate vs the blue?
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Originally Posted by Peak350
Isn't max advance (or ideal advance) 37 degrees? Thats awesome to hear the factory ECU is throwing that much timing at the motor, and I'm very curious to see what the V-manage nets you.

Any advantages to an ultimate vs the blue?
Each car is different. I doubt you can get away with 37 degrees on pump gas at all.
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Originally Posted by rcdash
Ideal under what conditions? At what rpm? With what kind of fuel? It's not always identical for every car regardless.

Jermaine, you imply that the UTEC will be coming out with a connector for the new ECUs. Can you confirm?

BTW, nice gains!
Ideal as in given perfect conditions and correct fuel the max advance that will generate more power. I could be completely wrong hence forming that as a question.

Either way thats a lot of timing for a stock motor.
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Originally Posted by rcdash
Originally Posted by rcdash
Jermaine, you imply that the UTEC will be coming out with a connector for the new ECUs. Can you confirm?

BTW, nice gains!
It is on the project board.
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
It is on the project board.
Right next to the GUI?


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