1st i dunno what post you quoted but that thread is old... back when 2005...600whp was considere to be very high power and you needed sleeves... all BS really, and any shop that still uses that as a tool these days to get your to overbuild like that and just push 500whp deserves a call out IMO, so i wouldnt put a lot of stock into that statement you quoted. There are so many factors, what kind of boost what he running?, what kind of tune?, what driving habbits did he have?....
In any case HR engine have better rods than a DE engine, and like i said, i wanna get a lil safer, then you run lower psi....Pick a solid turbo kit with a better ems and the turbo size that fits your goals, most new turbo kits today will come with the necessary fuel system and ems for what i think is your goals anyways.

 

I read it twice and didn't see it in there. What page is this proof exactly on.

 

This only thing you guys are saying is that you guys think stillen is garbage because it doesn't put down as much hp and tq as a turbocharger, but stillen makes things, just like jim wolf tech to be as close to oem as possible. Not to make crazy hp vehicles. So I mean if high horsepower is your game then this setup is not for you.

 

Yep exactly. Doug hates Stillen and likes to bash them on anything and make up lies with no proof.

Stillen's are very realiable. If they weren't they wouldn't offer the warranty for your engine now would they? LOL.

 

the proof of blown motors is in the thread.. go back and read it again.. of over 10 motors at that..

Carbon-Z i'm still waiting on the Vortech proof you will be providing.. we would hate for you to be labeled as someone who makes up lies with no proof

 

Last I checked we asked you for the proof first. So don't try to swing your way out of this question now. Your link has no info except a bunch of other FI owners bashing Stillen for no reasons.

 

The thread is entitled something like "How do to TT right the first time" and is in the FI-FAQ section.

 

did you guys learn how to read lol....its not about high horse power....but i think if you get a chance to spend 6k and put 318whp(with ano dynotune, below par ems, no fuel system) and then you spend 7.5k and put down 400whp and well over 120lbs of tq over that other stillen etup... you are telling me that you lookisng at stillen to saving money, and only doing it to stay conservative on power?????????????


and jwt kits(not my main choice)...the lower version maxes out at more than ~500whp...thats still a heck of a lot more than stillen....


why do you even bother to mod if the part you get jsut has a color and label and performs about the same as the OEM part.... lol


QMAN, as i said, that thread is old(still lots of good info, but dont take everything on the board as gospel).... most newer turbo kit on the market have everything out the box that you need to "get it right"....notice that is a loose term too, that could get you to overbuild. You guys are enjoing many years of reserach on the VQ, many blown engines. Doug has a greddy kit that out the box wasnt "right" so to get ti right he had to add fuel system, proper ems...etc....though he jsut skipped a lot of steps and went with build motor....but as i said... that is not the case anymore.

 

so its ok for you to make a statement and not back it up but others cna't do the same?

Carbon.. arn't you tired of following me around with the drive by posts? You always make unfonded statements and never do you answer a question or provide proof for anything..

if you want to talk about asking for proof and not providing it.. go read this thread and count how many times i ask you for proof on your statements.. and what do you do? you try to get me pissed off hoping i will insult you or the moderators will ban me, but unfortunately your tactic didn't work

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...q-or-hr-6.html

Intersting enough you were stupid to try it again and quickly got shut down by a Super Moderator but here you are again with the same statements

https://my350z.com/forum/7146093-post1993.html


Carbon please tell me what it is you want, because it was cute the first time around, but the stalking is getting annoying now

 

This proves it.

 

Funny thing is, you haven't backed up anything when we asked you first. You also never did in that same thread you linked. You only proved yoru overly bias against Stillen and nothing backing it.

I just proved you wrong in my last post with the poll and the links. Enough said. Now go crawl back into your corner. I can see it now, you will try to come back out with no facts and keep saying it's true, but I just proved it isn't.

 

nothing older than 2006? the motors we are talking about being blown by stillen are after 2007.. please find something recent.. you're finding posts that are 4 years old

 

Trying to get you upset? I wasn't even trying.

Doug, you are the one that got those topics flaming, you are also the one that was BANNED twice on this forum. 3rd time is a charm.

 

Laugh and he tries again....with no success.

 

are you saying you can never get banned from this forum?

 

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...age-ii-sc.html

https://my350z.com/forum/4072449-post103.html

https://my350z.com/forum/4019914-post59.html

https://my350z.com/forum/4176925-post123.html

and to follow up on your post from Chris

 

Some of the post links you guys made did one or a combination of three things: a) make it seem that like the chance of stillen superchargers blowing motors a rare occurance, b) have everything to to with the DE motor and not the HR motor and this sc will be a different type just for that fact alone, and c) proves that you hate stillen just because you think they are a waste of money for a 35k mile warrenty and oem performance. If anything if someone was hesitant about getting a stillen sc and didn't know what to expect from them you just won the oppositions argument that if you don't know what to think about fi and you want a safe investment then try stillen.

 

I don't hate stillen.. i hate seeing people spend their hard earned money on something that isn't worth it..

FYI stillen's warranty was only for stage 1, which i believe made 295whp on a DE Motor..

however for your sake i hope stillen changes the whole kit for the HR..

as i have stated over and over.. i came from the maxima world, where we had Stillen Kits with Vortech Blowers years before Nissan even thought of making another Z (350z) .. those blowers gave 80whp bolted on.. the DE Blowers for the 350z made 30whp bolted on.. and thats a damn shame for the amount of money you're spending

 

The stage one and 2 does come with a warrenty see

http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...SAN&model=350Z

And thats besides the point. I hope the one they are making for the HR motor can make a lot of rwhp but if it gets me around the 380 to 400 whp area then, I'm happy cause I got a lot more than I started with and I still got my warrenty to boot. In that case I can rest easy knowing that I wont have to worry to much about blowing motors and I can concentrate on perfecting my skills on the track

 

i stand corrected