How to get 300whp+ on a HR
04-11-2010, 01:05 PM
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Myself and A.H. seem to have gotten the most from our NA mods which happen to be identical. Here is what we have
injen sp1987 intake
stillen headers
fast intentions high flow cats (get another 1-2 hp with test pipes)
fast intentions intimidator exaust
UR crank pulley
UpRev Tune
injen sp1987 intake
stillen headers
fast intentions high flow cats (get another 1-2 hp with test pipes)
fast intentions intimidator exaust
UR crank pulley
UpRev Tune
04-11-2010, 01:46 PM
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Some interesting comments.
Anyway, doing the mods I did makes 300 whp on both Dynojet and Dynapack dynos
As it has been stated each dyno is different and different days (temp/humidity, etc.) play a part in that.
It's reasonable to accept some degree of variance when sharing dyno numbers.
The chart below came from a rule book I have and illustrates just how different dynos can be. It's purpose is to derive crank hp from whp.
Dyno type \ Drivetrain FWD RWD AWD
DynoJet (inertia dyno) 0.865 0.855 0.845
Mustang (eddy current) 0.840 0.830 0.820
DynaPack (hub dyno) 0.870 0.865 0.860
Dyno Dynamics 0.769 0.769 0.769
From my experience these factors are fairly realistic.
Anyway, doing the mods I did makes 300 whp on both Dynojet and Dynapack dynos
As it has been stated each dyno is different and different days (temp/humidity, etc.) play a part in that.
It's reasonable to accept some degree of variance when sharing dyno numbers.
The chart below came from a rule book I have and illustrates just how different dynos can be. It's purpose is to derive crank hp from whp.
Dyno type \ Drivetrain FWD RWD AWD
DynoJet (inertia dyno) 0.865 0.855 0.845
Mustang (eddy current) 0.840 0.830 0.820
DynaPack (hub dyno) 0.870 0.865 0.860
Dyno Dynamics 0.769 0.769 0.769
From my experience these factors are fairly realistic.
04-11-2010, 03:27 PM
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People ask questions in forums to get the correct answer. When the question is "what bolt-on mods can I do to the HR to make over 300rwhp" it's gets tricky. This is because there are a lot of shops that either have shitty dyno's, the people setting up the dyno don't know what they are doing, OR people dyno in the wrong gear therefore get innacurate readings.
The unfortunate thing is that people believe their dyno sheet and will not even humor the thought it could be off. These people (like the guy that thinks he is putting 320rwhp with a few bolt-on's) will come in here and swear the information is correct and therefore people get the wrong information.
I guess if we are going to go that route, I guess the 334rwhp I dyno'd on a local shops dynojet, when it was 99 degrees outside with 99% humidity is correct. Does this mean I have the most powerful HR with bolt-on's or did I just get a faulty dyno reading? All three pulls were off by less than 1hp for that matter.
See, I know better than this and as stated before, the accurate rwhp of my car is 296. I even think A.H.'s dyno sheet is wrong but whatever, he's not posting up 320 or higher dyno sheets.
If you want to believe you pushed 320 or 330rwhp, fine. Not my problem but because you refuse to believe it could be wrong no matter how many people tell you it's wrong, makes you give people false hope and expectations they will get from the thousands of dollars they will spend to try and get there.
You want over 300rwhp guaranteed no matter what dyno, go FI and don't waste your money on NA upgrades.
The unfortunate thing is that people believe their dyno sheet and will not even humor the thought it could be off. These people (like the guy that thinks he is putting 320rwhp with a few bolt-on's) will come in here and swear the information is correct and therefore people get the wrong information.
I guess if we are going to go that route, I guess the 334rwhp I dyno'd on a local shops dynojet, when it was 99 degrees outside with 99% humidity is correct. Does this mean I have the most powerful HR with bolt-on's or did I just get a faulty dyno reading? All three pulls were off by less than 1hp for that matter.
See, I know better than this and as stated before, the accurate rwhp of my car is 296. I even think A.H.'s dyno sheet is wrong but whatever, he's not posting up 320 or higher dyno sheets.
If you want to believe you pushed 320 or 330rwhp, fine. Not my problem but because you refuse to believe it could be wrong no matter how many people tell you it's wrong, makes you give people false hope and expectations they will get from the thousands of dollars they will spend to try and get there.
You want over 300rwhp guaranteed no matter what dyno, go FI and don't waste your money on NA upgrades.
04-11-2010, 03:34 PM
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People ask questions in forums to get the correct answer. When the question is "what bolt-on mods can I do to the HR to make over 300rwhp" it's gets tricky. This is because there are a lot of shops that either have shitty dyno's, the people setting up the dyno don't know what they are doing, OR people dyno in the wrong gear therefore get innacurate readings.
The unfortunate thing is that people believe their dyno sheet and will not even humor the thought it could be off. These people (like the guy that thinks he is putting 320rwhp with a few bolt-on's) will come in here and swear the information is correct and therefore people get the wrong information.
I guess if we are going to go that route, I guess the 334rwhp I dyno'd on a local shops dynojet, when it was 99 degrees outside with 99% humidity is correct. Does this mean I have the most powerful HR with bolt-on's or did I just get a faulty dyno reading? All three pulls were off by less than 1hp for that matter.
See, I know better than this and as stated before, the accurate rwhp of my car is 296. I even think A.H.'s dyno sheet is wrong but whatever, he's not posting up 320 or higher dyno sheets.
If you want to believe you pushed 320 or 330rwhp, fine. Not my problem but because you refuse to believe it could be wrong no matter how many people tell you it's wrong, makes you give people false hope and expectations they will get from the thousands of dollars they will spend to try and get there.
You want over 300rwhp guaranteed no matter what dyno, go FI and don't waste your money on NA upgrades.
The unfortunate thing is that people believe their dyno sheet and will not even humor the thought it could be off. These people (like the guy that thinks he is putting 320rwhp with a few bolt-on's) will come in here and swear the information is correct and therefore people get the wrong information.
I guess if we are going to go that route, I guess the 334rwhp I dyno'd on a local shops dynojet, when it was 99 degrees outside with 99% humidity is correct. Does this mean I have the most powerful HR with bolt-on's or did I just get a faulty dyno reading? All three pulls were off by less than 1hp for that matter.
See, I know better than this and as stated before, the accurate rwhp of my car is 296. I even think A.H.'s dyno sheet is wrong but whatever, he's not posting up 320 or higher dyno sheets.
If you want to believe you pushed 320 or 330rwhp, fine. Not my problem but because you refuse to believe it could be wrong no matter how many people tell you it's wrong, makes you give people false hope and expectations they will get from the thousands of dollars they will spend to try and get there.
You want over 300rwhp guaranteed no matter what dyno, go FI and don't waste your money on NA upgrades.
04-11-2010, 03:36 PM
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03threefiftyz, I don't understand your quote. Do you think you know more about the HR motors than the people that have spent the money to upgrade them?
Help me out here why you posted a fail pic next to my last comment. How about you suck a D!ck and keep your comments to yourself if you aren't going to help people with their questions.
Food for thought ****tard.
Help me out here why you posted a fail pic next to my last comment. How about you suck a D!ck and keep your comments to yourself if you aren't going to help people with their questions.
Food for thought ****tard.
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04-11-2010, 03:58 PM
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This is what I personally think of A.H.'s & Cute's Dyno #'s!!!!
Just goes to show you how ignorant some of the members here really are!!! I have been modding my HR for sometime now and have the experience to say those #'s are BS! Steaming pile of CRAP!!!!
How do you like me NOW biatch?! lol
Zim
Just goes to show you how ignorant some of the members here really are!!! I have been modding my HR for sometime now and have the experience to say those #'s are BS! Steaming pile of CRAP!!!!
How do you like me NOW biatch?! lol
Zim
04-11-2010, 04:00 PM
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I agree with you Lakeside and as I stated earlier, I only get 296rwhp (middle of florida summer) and to this day that's the strongest my sponsor has seen from the HR with simple bolt-on's. I also stated before that breaking 300 would be nearly impossible even if it was 40 degree's outside.
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04-11-2010, 04:23 PM
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I don't know where A.H. is from but yes, as stated before, I don't agree with his numbers either. People just need to stop trusting the only dyno they have ever been on. You want an accurate dyno, go to a well known shop with a newer, more expensive (yes, price almost always is relative to quality) model. Then you "may" get a accurate dyno result as long as you do your pull in your closest 1:1 gear and the person operating the dyno know what they are doing.
05-19-2010, 10:01 AM
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Dyno'd 281 whp recently on a DJ and have all the HR bolt on + conservative Uprev tune.
Dyno'd 289 whp on the same dyno with just bassani and ingens no tune about a year ago.
I'll take my 281whp over the original 289whp any day of the week. Peak dyno numbers are like those little trophys you'd get playing sports as a kid. Makes you feel good at the time, but in the grand scheme of things... they don't mean ****.
Dyno'd 289 whp on the same dyno with just bassani and ingens no tune about a year ago.
I'll take my 281whp over the original 289whp any day of the week. Peak dyno numbers are like those little trophys you'd get playing sports as a kid. Makes you feel good at the time, but in the grand scheme of things... they don't mean ****.
