Is there a General Hate towards Teenages who own Zs?
well i bought my car by myself at age 19, 2003 base, used with 19000, 20 g's paid offf, hard work...... i bust my *** to get what i have...... at the end of the day when i see some dickbag punk given a $30,000 i gues u could say im jealous. but i no in the end it will make me a better person and appreciate things... but this site isn't about age, it should'nt even get brought up, i dont wanna no if someone was given something.
First off let me say this: I'm 25 years old and come from a properous middle class family. However, I didn't have a car to drive (not even borrow) till I was 17 years old. And once that happened....my parents bought me a car that was a little bit older than I was. It was a solid steel, 4 cylinder Volvo built for the 1980 model year (the year I was born). And yeah...like all teenages, I hit a couple things. I backed into a Mercedes (trying to make sure I didn't get creamed by a Jeep Cherokee), my own house when I was trying to put it in the garage (I wasn't normally allowed to do that...but my Dad was out of town so I though, "Hey why not?" and our driveway didn't exactly make that the easiest manuever ever), and rear-ended a mini-van (actually had just gotten an internship that day....).
So really the big issue is that you're bound to hit something. It's just how the learning process works...and why it's expensive to insure young drivers. Now, tell me would you rather see a 20 year old Volvo wrecked or a brand new 350Z?
Now fast forward to last year. I'm 24 years old and got my first real job after spending 5 years working my *** off through College. I'm doing fairly well for myself....and decide that it's time for a "new" car. I did my research and found myself a Z (a 2004 model....which I was able to cut a good deal on). Arranged the financing, put 35% down and am now making the payments along with the insurance (for 2 cars mind you...I've still got my second Volvo). All of that means I earned the privledge to own my Z (granted the bank still owns most of it....but I'm working on that). I know for a fact that once I was on my own and living my life, my parents started treating me different. I wasn't someone they felt they needed to protect anymore. I was a man....who was capable of making my own decisions. Yeah...so maybe that's cheesy...but earning your way in the world will earn you a lot more respect than having something handed to you. Because after all, respect is NOT given...it's earned.
Anyway, back to the issue of hitting things. Now let's say I was married and had kids. The sight of some 18 year old driving a sports car is going to bother me....not because it was handed to you or you didn't earn it. What's going to bother me is the fact that my family is out on the road with an inexperience driver with more horsepower than he/she can handle. Given young people's propensity for hitting things...I would much rather you be going as SLOW as is possible.
Perhaps that makes me a dick....but you know what, life's not fair and no one ever said it was.
Oh..and then there's something else that bugs me. A buddy of mine in college told me about a friend of his back in High School. His parents had bought him a brand new BMW. He'd driven it for a time...and then did something to it that any car person should find reprehensible. He took it out on the highway, got up to about 80-90 mph and then threw the transmission into reverse. You know why he did this? Because he didn't want the car anymore....and wanted Mommy and Daddy to buy him another one. He destroyed a perfectly good car because he didn't want it anymore. And then young people wonder why others don't think it's such a great idea that they get high dollar cars. It's because there is a distinct lack of respect for things running rampant among young people.
That's my opinion. Call me old....call me a hater....whatever. That's your business. But at the end of the day, I know I earned everything I have by making good decisions.
So really the big issue is that you're bound to hit something. It's just how the learning process works...and why it's expensive to insure young drivers. Now, tell me would you rather see a 20 year old Volvo wrecked or a brand new 350Z?
Now fast forward to last year. I'm 24 years old and got my first real job after spending 5 years working my *** off through College. I'm doing fairly well for myself....and decide that it's time for a "new" car. I did my research and found myself a Z (a 2004 model....which I was able to cut a good deal on). Arranged the financing, put 35% down and am now making the payments along with the insurance (for 2 cars mind you...I've still got my second Volvo). All of that means I earned the privledge to own my Z (granted the bank still owns most of it....but I'm working on that). I know for a fact that once I was on my own and living my life, my parents started treating me different. I wasn't someone they felt they needed to protect anymore. I was a man....who was capable of making my own decisions. Yeah...so maybe that's cheesy...but earning your way in the world will earn you a lot more respect than having something handed to you. Because after all, respect is NOT given...it's earned.
Anyway, back to the issue of hitting things. Now let's say I was married and had kids. The sight of some 18 year old driving a sports car is going to bother me....not because it was handed to you or you didn't earn it. What's going to bother me is the fact that my family is out on the road with an inexperience driver with more horsepower than he/she can handle. Given young people's propensity for hitting things...I would much rather you be going as SLOW as is possible.
Perhaps that makes me a dick....but you know what, life's not fair and no one ever said it was.
Oh..and then there's something else that bugs me. A buddy of mine in college told me about a friend of his back in High School. His parents had bought him a brand new BMW. He'd driven it for a time...and then did something to it that any car person should find reprehensible. He took it out on the highway, got up to about 80-90 mph and then threw the transmission into reverse. You know why he did this? Because he didn't want the car anymore....and wanted Mommy and Daddy to buy him another one. He destroyed a perfectly good car because he didn't want it anymore. And then young people wonder why others don't think it's such a great idea that they get high dollar cars. It's because there is a distinct lack of respect for things running rampant among young people.
That's my opinion. Call me old....call me a hater....whatever. That's your business. But at the end of the day, I know I earned everything I have by making good decisions.
Last edited by Sisko99; Jan 30, 2006 at 06:43 AM.
1. Don't post on MY350Z.COM that you are 18 and your parents bought your car, no one cares;
2. Do take a good driver safety course. I know you are the same age as a F1 driver and you have great reflexes, but what you will learn is the mental side of driving and will keep you and me alive.
3. Do track your car if you have the need for speed. Since I have been a member of MY350Z.com there have been alot of street racing deaths. Racing in traffic is asking for trouble.
4. Don't post here that the police are harassing you when you are caught speeding. You are the one breaking the law.
5. Do be positive when you post on MY350Z.COM. Try to provide some positive information and advice. You will be surprised at the amount of respect you will get here if you do.
6. Don't be so quick to reach for the flame thrower when someone makes a mistake or posts something wrong. Its ok to be critical, but remember you could one day be on the other end of that flame thrower.
7. Do recognize that when you drive your Z you represent all of us. If you drive like a maniac it reflects on all Z drivers.
2. Do take a good driver safety course. I know you are the same age as a F1 driver and you have great reflexes, but what you will learn is the mental side of driving and will keep you and me alive.
3. Do track your car if you have the need for speed. Since I have been a member of MY350Z.com there have been alot of street racing deaths. Racing in traffic is asking for trouble.
4. Don't post here that the police are harassing you when you are caught speeding. You are the one breaking the law.
5. Do be positive when you post on MY350Z.COM. Try to provide some positive information and advice. You will be surprised at the amount of respect you will get here if you do.
6. Don't be so quick to reach for the flame thrower when someone makes a mistake or posts something wrong. Its ok to be critical, but remember you could one day be on the other end of that flame thrower.
7. Do recognize that when you drive your Z you represent all of us. If you drive like a maniac it reflects on all Z drivers.
Alright, so you're complaining about someone owning a 350Z? Then what are you doing posting on this forum, if you're not proud of someone purchasing something you hold in such high esteem? Because someone's parents bought a 350Z, it puts Nissan's financial budget out of the way of falling.
So what if the parent had bought a teenager a 350Z; the parents would have had to worked just as hard as the teenager would have. It's not like money is coded to one person; it's generic. Money would have to be spent on a Z to purchase it, no matter who it comes from.
I am 18, and I had previously owned a POS Mazda 626, in which I had to put payments on. I work, go to school, and currently trying to get into a good University. During all the time of stress, it's pretty nice to know my Z is covered and I could work harder at surpassing what my parents currently do.
However, every single modification that goes into my Z, comes from my wallet. There is a certain amount of pride that comes from it, for no one else's money touches the Z in this department. The older posters on this forum must understand that they make a much bigger income at the end of the year, or every two weeks at that.
There is no way I'd be able to keep up with payments for the Z on my own. I had previously worked for Saab as a valet when I was 17, and I now work in a different area of the vocational field. With all the money in total I have made, I know I wouldn't be able to keep my Z with all other outlets my money is going to.
So, please, if a teen can be mature with their 350Z, I think they deserve respect. If a teen with a Z drives responsibly, I think he deserves respect. If a teen remains humble while owning his Z, that deserves respect.
Besides, the parent's putting payments into the Z isn't hurting you. So why are you complaining? Just because you took a different route financially, doesn't make you God. Besides, this jealously issue is getting pretty lame, on account on how some of you are saying that you're such mature adults. I've seen 17 year old girls, and for their first car, they have their parents buy them a $80,000 Land Rover, and complain until they get it, and scream if they don't. But I could care less, because it isn't my problem. And it doesn't make me jealous, because families like that make the world go around, just like everyone else's. If we didn't have them, Nissan, ( or America itself ), wouldn't be where it is at now, financially.
And don't flame me about how bad I should be driving, or if I've hit everything in the world. I haven't been in one single accident, and I've been driving for three years. I haven't even nicked a corner. People complaining about wrecks with teens who own Z's, should stop being so blinded, and look at the facts. PEOPLE wreck, and it doesn't matter in any car. I've seen Civic's pile up cars in accidents, and RSX's backing into people. Teenagers, or some of them, wreck because they don't know the road as much as a 28 year old does. But it's a learning process. They'll wreck no matter what they drive; not because their parents are paying for a car.
So what if the parent had bought a teenager a 350Z; the parents would have had to worked just as hard as the teenager would have. It's not like money is coded to one person; it's generic. Money would have to be spent on a Z to purchase it, no matter who it comes from.
I am 18, and I had previously owned a POS Mazda 626, in which I had to put payments on. I work, go to school, and currently trying to get into a good University. During all the time of stress, it's pretty nice to know my Z is covered and I could work harder at surpassing what my parents currently do.
However, every single modification that goes into my Z, comes from my wallet. There is a certain amount of pride that comes from it, for no one else's money touches the Z in this department. The older posters on this forum must understand that they make a much bigger income at the end of the year, or every two weeks at that.
There is no way I'd be able to keep up with payments for the Z on my own. I had previously worked for Saab as a valet when I was 17, and I now work in a different area of the vocational field. With all the money in total I have made, I know I wouldn't be able to keep my Z with all other outlets my money is going to.
So, please, if a teen can be mature with their 350Z, I think they deserve respect. If a teen with a Z drives responsibly, I think he deserves respect. If a teen remains humble while owning his Z, that deserves respect.
Besides, the parent's putting payments into the Z isn't hurting you. So why are you complaining? Just because you took a different route financially, doesn't make you God. Besides, this jealously issue is getting pretty lame, on account on how some of you are saying that you're such mature adults. I've seen 17 year old girls, and for their first car, they have their parents buy them a $80,000 Land Rover, and complain until they get it, and scream if they don't. But I could care less, because it isn't my problem. And it doesn't make me jealous, because families like that make the world go around, just like everyone else's. If we didn't have them, Nissan, ( or America itself ), wouldn't be where it is at now, financially.
And don't flame me about how bad I should be driving, or if I've hit everything in the world. I haven't been in one single accident, and I've been driving for three years. I haven't even nicked a corner. People complaining about wrecks with teens who own Z's, should stop being so blinded, and look at the facts. PEOPLE wreck, and it doesn't matter in any car. I've seen Civic's pile up cars in accidents, and RSX's backing into people. Teenagers, or some of them, wreck because they don't know the road as much as a 28 year old does. But it's a learning process. They'll wreck no matter what they drive; not because their parents are paying for a car.
Last edited by furiousZ; Jan 30, 2006 at 07:55 AM.
Originally Posted by jamnew
1. Don't post on MY350Z.COM that you are 18 and your parents bought your car, no one cares;
2. Do take a good driver safety course. I know you are the same age as a F1 driver and you have great reflexes, but what you will learn is the mental side of driving and will keep you and me alive.
3. Do track your car if you have the need for speed. Since I have been a member of MY350Z.com there have been alot of street racing deaths. Racing in traffic is asking for trouble.
4. Don't post here that the police are harassing you when you are caught speeding. You are the one breaking the law.
5. Do be positive when you post on MY350Z.COM. Try to provide some positive information and advice. You will be surprised at the amount of respect you will get here if you do.
6. Don't be so quick to reach for the flame thrower when someone makes a mistake or posts something wrong. Its ok to be critical, but remember you could one day be on the other end of that flame thrower.
7. Do recognize that when you drive your Z you represent all of us. If you drive like a maniac it reflects on all Z drivers.
2. Do take a good driver safety course. I know you are the same age as a F1 driver and you have great reflexes, but what you will learn is the mental side of driving and will keep you and me alive.
3. Do track your car if you have the need for speed. Since I have been a member of MY350Z.com there have been alot of street racing deaths. Racing in traffic is asking for trouble.
4. Don't post here that the police are harassing you when you are caught speeding. You are the one breaking the law.
5. Do be positive when you post on MY350Z.COM. Try to provide some positive information and advice. You will be surprised at the amount of respect you will get here if you do.
6. Don't be so quick to reach for the flame thrower when someone makes a mistake or posts something wrong. Its ok to be critical, but remember you could one day be on the other end of that flame thrower.
7. Do recognize that when you drive your Z you represent all of us. If you drive like a maniac it reflects on all Z drivers.
However, you do have some good points, and I agree with you on many of them. Especially driving the Z in a official track, and how a single Z driver can represent the community. The safe drivers course saves on the insurance too, so that's a good hint. Besides, you get the most out of your Z on the track!
Originally Posted by furiousZ
It's not like money is coded to one person; it's generic. Money would have to be spent on a Z to purchase it, no matter who it comes from.
Originally Posted by furiousZ
It's kind of an oxymoron when you put " be positive when you post, " and then state " no one cares " in your first rule of thumb.
However, you do have some good points, and I agree with you on many of them. Especially driving the Z in a official track, and how a single Z driver can represent the community. The safe drivers course saves on the insurance too, so that's a good hint. Besides, you get the most out of your Z on the track!
However, you do have some good points, and I agree with you on many of them. Especially driving the Z in a official track, and how a single Z driver can represent the community. The safe drivers course saves on the insurance too, so that's a good hint. Besides, you get the most out of your Z on the track!
Thought I would give my 2 cents. Sorry didnt read the 8 pages of this thread because im sure it is the same crap that always spills out on these age based threads. To answer the Topics Title question... I dont think there is so much as hate towards teens with a Z or a nice car, but rather hate for threads that just talk about how they are 18 and just got a Z from their parents, whats the best intake? Who cares??? We are all here or at least should all be here to spread information or gather information on the Z. There must be hundreds of these threads already. Here would be an example if I used my own situation. Can you spot the sentence that is wasting space?
Hi guys!! Im 28 years old and just bought a new Z with my own money that I earned all by myself. What is the loudest exhaust out there for my Z?
Cheerios- BEN
Hi guys!! Im 28 years old and just bought a new Z with my own money that I earned all by myself. What is the loudest exhaust out there for my Z?
Cheerios- BEN
after readin all this you guys have to notice where this thread is originated. Hes from Northern VA where the median income is around 80+k houses are 1.5mil+ and a Z to these parents is like buyin their kids a Geo Metro. Everyone to their own. My parents provided me with my first few cars. You guys say Kids should get a full time or even a part time job to work for their money and buy their own cars. I think as students their only job should be School. There is no way i couldve gone through School and have a full time job and maintain a high GPA. Now that Ive graduated and going onto medical school, made some money on real estates and commercial buildings. Ive bought my parents their cars.
I just thing working full time as a student is not the best solution. Ive seen kids get kicked out of Colleges because they could not handle both work and school in their lives. I've seen plenty of kids who had things handed down to them and still suceed in life. Just because some of you guys didnt have the priviledge as some does not mean you should bash on these kids. Who are we to judge anyway.
Its only Nissan. Lets start complaining when 16years start drivin an ferrari or a Lambo
I just thing working full time as a student is not the best solution. Ive seen kids get kicked out of Colleges because they could not handle both work and school in their lives. I've seen plenty of kids who had things handed down to them and still suceed in life. Just because some of you guys didnt have the priviledge as some does not mean you should bash on these kids. Who are we to judge anyway.
Its only Nissan. Lets start complaining when 16years start drivin an ferrari or a Lambo
Originally Posted by JCA0688
I just asked for maybe a simple yes or no. K, bye.
I can't believe I just wasted 15mins of my life reading this thread. Where's my box cutter? Time to end it all.....
-VO is subscribing. Definitely gotta see where this one goes-
-VO is subscribing. Definitely gotta see where this one goes-
Originally Posted by J3rzeyFlip
who cares if ur parents actually bought u the car!... They prolly bought the car for u and in return, u finish college. Thats a even trade. I got my Z when i was 19/end of senior yr HS. I saved up for the down payment and my parents pays for insurance.
"ok son, if you finish college and create a life for yourself, your mother and I will reward you with a new car!" Idiotic! Simply idiotic!
Fact remains, and I'll admit to being this way when I was your age, most kids under 20 have no clue what the real world is like and what it's like to provide for themselves. Wait until you have to pay rent/mortgage, utilities, student loan (if you succeded at your deal with your parents), and your car payment you will find out very quickly how much you appreciate what you have.



