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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by paulsmansfield
what's all this rubbish about parents rewarding their spoilt little brat with a car or using it as incentive to go to college, surely the incentive and reward for going to college is to get a decent job.

Anyone over the age of 25 hates teenagers anyway, they're irrelevant to our lives, they think they know everything, they think they're always right and they think people care about their opinions. We don't, and we really don't want to hear about how hard you have to work at school and so think you can justify your stuck up, inbred parents buying you stuff.

Go to school, grow pubic hair, get a job, leave us alone.
Already have done the first three. But I think it's practically impossible for the teen population on the board to leave you all alone.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TK2005
Damn Val, when did 27 get to be old? Did we really act like that when we were kids? I know I was quite the dumba$$ but I had to have more respect than that.
I don't know know anymore brotha. When I was a junior in HS, my reward was a $1000.00 1985 Buick La Sabre with about 100k miles on it.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by camaro194
No, the proper reward for getting a 4.0 is a nice dinner and a pat on the back...not a car. Good luck not getting a door ding from the kid who is running 5 minutes late for class and smacks his door off of yours.
Yep....My parents made it very clear to me that school was my 'job', it wasn't something I did to earn rewards like free cars. They also gave me every opportunity to do my job as well or as poorly as I saw fit, with the full understanding that the consequences of my decisions were fully my own. Some of these kids are going to have a hard time dealing with the fact that their employers (once they actually have a career) won't give them cars for doing their job.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vo7848
I don't know know anymore brotha. When I was a junior in HS, my reward was a $1000.00 1985 Buick La Sabre with about 100k miles on it.
Haha, my car totally rocked yours. I was the proud owner of a 91 Hyundai Scoupe which my parents paid for in complete along with the insurance as long as I had a job to put gas in the car. I did manage to bum 5 bucks off them here and there for gas. Remember when $5 used to buy gas? I am pretty sure the only reason I got a car was because my parents were tired of driving me to school soccer practice, then to club soccer practice with games on the evenings and on wekends. Man have I come a long way.

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Haha, my car totally rocked yours. I was the proud owner of a 91 Hyundai Scoupe which my parents paid for in complete along with the insurance as long as I had a job to put gas in the car. I did manage to bum 5 bucks off them here and there for gas. Remember when $5 used to buy gas? Man have I come a long way.
haha!! My folks gave me my older sisters 1976 Volvo 244 DL. I put the biggest sub woofer I could find in the trunk and use to cruise around town with my friends listening to ACDC Back in Black at full volume!! My friends would all chip in like 2$ a piece for gas. That use to give you like a half tank of cruising. haha Im 28yrs young by the way.

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuper-Fazt
Im 19 years old, finishing my first year of college, and Im buying a Z in the next few weeks if not days. Yes, my parents are HELPING me buying it, yes, they are insuring it... but hate on if you want, cuz 2 years after I graduate Ill be able to afford MYSELF a Porsche. Nothing wrong with parents helping out their kids. This is my reward for maintaining a 4.0GPA freshman year of college, Id say thats just about as valid as working a full time job and paying for it myself (even though I am putting up 5K as is.) If this issue is being spoiled, I assure you, I am not. Besides that, hate on haters, hate on...
I can't wait until you graduate college and can't find a job that pays over 24k, and then start paying rent, utilities, car insurance, etc... Everyone in college thinks they can graduate and get paid huge amounts of money and buy all kinds of things, but thye have never paid for **** on their own and have no idea about taxes and how little you actually make when you look at your bills each month. Then again if it wasn't people like this then the credit industry would fall flat on their faces. I hope you can truly afford a porsche after college, anyone can buy one.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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well i just turned 19 and ive been saving for about a year and i finally got one ....and i can say when you buy your own car you respect it more than if someone hands it to you...i mean mayb if i still went to school and i wanted my parents to help me out i could see asking for it but if your working fuulll time when your my age i dont see a reason to let your parents help you out...plus they cant ever take the keys from you.

I understand that you respect things you worked for, but thats not always true. I Value my parent's money mch more than my own since they work about 14 hours a day and both immigrated here. They do this to get a nice house send me to college and buy me my z so i can have a better life. I didnt ask for it, they just did it. I started off with an 86 conquest that was my dad's first car that HE saved up for and treat both cars so nice its crazy. Theres nothing wrong with parent's buying the kids a car as long as the kid appreciated its fully and doesnt take it for granted like some kids do... BTW im 19 going to UVA
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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I can't wait until you graduate college and can't find a job that pays over 24k, and then start paying rent, utilities, car insurance, etc... Everyone in college thinks they can graduate and get paid huge amounts of money and buy all kinds of things, but thye have never paid for **** on their own and have no idea about taxes and how little you actually make when you look at your bills each month. Then again if it wasn't people like this then the credit industry would fall flat on their faces. I hope you can truly afford a porsche after college, anyone can buy one.

Sorry but depending on what college hes from, what major he can be guarenteed more than 24 k with a 4.0 GPA...... im a systems major here and if you graduate we have a 100% employment with avg salaries at 65 grand, of course tahts much diff than a philosophy major, but even then avg salary for those guys is hoving arround 35k. It all depends, if he thinks he can afford a porsche out of college than hes probably going to a dam good school...us college students arent dumb and we know our potential.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Yep....My parents made it very clear to me that school was my 'job', it wasn't something I did to earn rewards like free cars. They also gave me every opportunity to do my job as well or as poorly as I saw fit, with the full understanding that the consequences of my decisions were fully my own. Some of these kids are going to have a hard time dealing with the fact that their employers (once they actually have a career) won't give them cars for doing their job.

sorry for posting 3 times but i have a strong feeling towards this kinda of stuff. A parent who just lets a kid do what they want whether they fail or not is not that good......a parent does not what to see his/her kid **** up and not be able to grad a college and get a good job that doesnt require you to break your back for low wages (i worked construction for 2 summers and it would suck dooing that for a living). Kids at younger ages dont always know everything eventhough they think that...incentives arent a bad thing and they will fully appreciate it when they graduate and get a good job. I tell you, ill be damned if i jsut tell my kid that if he doesnt do well in school thats "his consequence" and watch him do that to him/herself sorry bbut i disagree.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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I can't wait until you graduate college and can't find a job that pays over 24k, and then start paying rent, utilities, car insurance, etc... Everyone in college thinks they can graduate and get paid huge amounts of money and buy all kinds of things, but thye have never paid for **** on their own and have no idea about taxes and how little you actually make when you look at your bills each month. Then again if it wasn't people like this then the credit industry would fall flat on their faces. I hope you can truly afford a porsche after college, anyone can buy one.
+1. My younger ex GF had this same mentality. Spoiled, daddy payed her tuition, insurance, &, car note. She had the mentality that she was a grown woman who knew what it took to make it in the real world and pay bills, with her little cell phone and low balance credit card payment. She use to ride my @ss on how much she wanted me to have already bought a house, family vehicle, furniture, and be debt free before we would get married. She also had this mentality that she was going to be some big FBI agent or work forensics. I told her to be more realistic. She was about 19 or 20 at the time, 5ft tall, & about 100 lbs. She had no millitary or law enforcement experience, working on a business degree. I always tried to get it through her head to be more realistic instead of daydreaming. I also warned her about the job market and how experience is needed in order to get higher paying jobs. Degrees will get you in the door and allow for advancement, but it will not guarantee a high paying job from the start. But what are you gonna do? I couldn't convince her. Hard headed little snoot. Turns out that she is now a kindergarden teacher, still living at home.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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i read some more posts and i dunno about most tteens but i try to hide the fact that i drive a nice car as much as possible around here. It is actually kinda embarrasing at times when you have a nice car and no one else does. I totally agree with the guy who said its not about how or how old you are, but if you really do appreciate what you got....some people are just luckier than others, but its about being humble about it and appreciative.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by frenzy757
Sorry but depending on what college hes from, what major he can be guarenteed more than 24 k with a 4.0 GPA...... im a systems major here and if you graduate we have a 100% employment with avg salaries at 65 grand, of course tahts much diff than a philosophy major, but even then avg salary for those guys is hoving arround 35k. It all depends, if he thinks he can afford a porsche out of college than hes probably going to a dam good school...us college students arent dumb and we know our potential.
All those numbers you just threw out there wont mean jack when get finished with school. Avg salaries dont mean ****e in the real world. My buddy graduated with honors from a good Art School in San Fran in Automotive design. He works at Foot locker right now!! I graduated from Texas Tech Univeristy specializing in Cardiac rehabilitation, well, im now on a drilling rig in the Caspian sea as a mud engineer. Degrees dont mean squat unless your super super specialized. Doctor, Pharmacy, PT, OT, Law. Good luck. Oh and on a side note.. Did you know that Chuck Norris's tears can cure Cancer? to bad he never cries.

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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All those numbers you just threw out there wont mean jack when get finished with school. Avg salaries dont mean ****e in the real world. My buddy graduated with honors from a good Art School in San Fran in Automotive design. He works at Foot locker right now!! I graduated from Texas Tech Univeristy specializing in Cardiac rehabilitation, well, im now on a drilling rig in the Caspian sea as a mud engineer. Degrees dont mean squat unless your super super specialized. Doctor, Pharmacy, PT, OT, Law. Good luck. Oh and on a side note.. Did you know that Chuck Norris's tears can cure Cancer? to bad he never cries.

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I understand avg salaries dont always mean alot, but look at the majors you just threw out....not to be disrespectful, but Art doesnt usually pay much doesnt matter what school, and ive never heard that a Cardiac Rehabilitation was a major. I am just saying some majors are more likely to pay better than others, which is true. My whole statement was about the kid who thinks he will get alot of money, maybe hes majoring in Comm, Engr, or Math at a very nice school? I know no undergrad degree with pay alot, thats true as well. By super specialized you mean graduate school right? I hope so heh. And i did hear Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer, did you hear that he never sleeps?....
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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And i did hear Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer, did you hear that he never sleeps?....
yep I heard that too!! Here is the link to some funny Chuck Norris Facts for you Chuck fans. As for arguing with teenagers, Im out. Unsubscribed. Peace!!!

http://www.4q.cc/chuck/index.php?topthirty
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I understand avg salaries dont always mean alot, but look at the majors you just threw out....not to be disrespectful, but Art doesnt usually pay much doesnt matter what school, and ive never heard that a Cardiac Rehabilitation was a major. I am just saying some majors are more likely to pay better than others, which is true. My whole statement was about the kid who thinks he will get alot of money, maybe hes majoring in Comm, Engr, or Math at a very nice school? I know no undergrad degree with pay alot, thats true as well. By super specialized you mean graduate school right? I hope so heh. And i did hear Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer, did you hear that he never sleeps?....
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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haha, yo JCA0688 where in southside VA are ya
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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haha, yo JCA0688 where in southside VA are ya
I live about 45 min from Richmond. Ummm maybe you know the town, Stony Creek along Route 40.

Right there at the southern tip of Dinwiddie County.
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Originally Posted by frenzy757
Sorry but depending on what college hes from, what major he can be guarenteed more than 24 k with a 4.0 GPA...... im a systems major here and if you graduate we have a 100% employment with avg salaries at 65 grand, of course tahts much diff than a philosophy major, but even then avg salary for those guys is hoving arround 35k. It all depends, if he thinks he can afford a porsche out of college than hes probably going to a dam good school...us college students arent dumb and we know our potential.
I have graduated college, so i know alot more about this than you. No major has 100% employment, that is a lie. GPA for employment means dick, employers want 3.0+ if they ask at all (grad schools care and that is it), I thought the same way in college (it was less than 10 years ago) and the real world caught up fast, I was looking at the average salary of 55k coming out with 90% employment guess what happened. I was making 28k and it took me a few months to find a job. Who you know matters so much more than your gpa. Also, you must be dumb if you think I called that guy dumb. I said good luck but be prepared for the real world, it is usually different. I would think a UVA student could read.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by frenzy757
sorry for posting 3 times but i have a strong feeling towards this kinda of stuff. A parent who just lets a kid do what they want whether they fail or not is not that good......a parent does not what to see his/her kid **** up and not be able to grad a college and get a good job that doesnt require you to break your back for low wages (i worked construction for 2 summers and it would suck dooing that for a living). Kids at younger ages dont always know everything eventhough they think that...incentives arent a bad thing and they will fully appreciate it when they graduate and get a good job. I tell you, ill be damned if i jsut tell my kid that if he doesnt do well in school thats "his consequence" and watch him do that to him/herself sorry bbut i disagree.
So you're calling my parents "not that good parents"? Perhaps they had greater faith in their kids' intelligence, common-sense and instinct for self-preservation than you'll have in yours.

Without going into too much detail, following H.S. (which I graduated from with a B average), I served my country for 6 years as a helicopter flight engineer, and now (still without a college degree (my flight schedule made college an impossibility)) I make 6-figures as a network engineer for a major computer company. Don't get me wrong here, I don't mean to 'toot my own horn', but you need to understand that some of us are and have been expected to do for ourselves from an early age. The thought of getting a 30K car in return for good grades was ridiculous and dare I say almost insulting.
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I have graduated college, so i know alot more about this than you. No major has 100% employment, that is a lie. GPA for employment means dick, employers want 3.0+ if they ask at all (grad schools care and that is it), I thought the same way in college (it was less than 10 years ago) and the real world caught up fast, I was looking at the average salary of 55k coming out with 90% employment guess what happened. I was making 28k and it took me a few months to find a job. Who you know matters so much more than your gpa. Also, you must be dumb if you think I called that guy dumb. I said good luck but be prepared for the real world, it is usually different. I would think a UVA student could read.
Exactly. I just graduated from college 13 months ago. All throughout school, I was picturing myself making 40k+ a year. Guess what, it took me a month after graduating to even find anything, and it wasnt even close to what I was hoping for. Thankfully, I took my licks and stuck with the job long enough to get some experience. Now, I'm working at a much better place and I'm making a decent amount where I can afford to get myself a new car.

And this whole arguement about not being able to work while going to school and still get good grades is BS. You should be bale to work atleast 15 hours a week (which is enough for a car payment and isnt too demanding on your schedule) while in school.
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