How old are you?

 

Interesting thing. I see a few people with numerous trans problems. Then I see some thing like this over on G35 Driver.

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117473

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...d+transmission


Wait. Do what? You go from one end to the other. You track your car, and you prefer the automatic? I drag race because it's more accessible. If I had the time/money to go up to Lime Rock for an HPDE, I would. And I've always heard that cars with clutches are better on a road course. Automatics are better for drag racing if you're bracket racing. If you're going for best ET, you'd be better off in a manual.

 

You are too funny. From the link you provided... 20 percent repair/replacement rate for the manual trany.

Yeah, amazing piece of machinery there. Nah, I think I'll stick with my AT.

 

I have never driven an auto Z but I've been driving autos my whole life in 2 BMWs and a honda pilot (until my boxster), and when you floor it in low gear, it definitely takes a second to decide what gear to go into.

That's why with MOST ALL cars, the auto tranny is substantially slower, especially from 0-60.

The strange thing is that with cars that only offer an automatic, the automatic tends to be really fast and have a good 1/4 and 0-60, but on cars that offer a manual AND automatic, the automatic seems not refined almost, and tends to be slow and laggy...Any insight on this?

 

Just curious.. what did you base on when you were thinking about buying the Z?

 

history class? ^_- ... stick will always be around.

u are right, i payed 39k for my Z out the door, and i could have gotten a 4.4s evo, even to the track though... that's actually where the stick skill really comes in. not some1 slamming on throttle and brake. i actually think that if u are good at shifting... heel-toe... double clutching.... u can actually pull corners alot faster than with an auto.

yea it aint none of my business... im just wondering though... cause there really arnt no GOOD reason to have a 350z+auto if u have a family other than an extra car to have fun in. unless u a wealthy dude where u can buy all the car in the world w/o having to think about it.... then ya... why not...

 

Damn it!

Op, you should have searched before making this thread. You'll get raped if they see you driving an auto Z

 

What was the first vehicle that you paid for?

 

did u know that auto Z can manual shift too?.... but even with that feature... why are stick sport car are more demanding? paddle shifting is the same idea.... easier to use... but some people are still oldschool. that's why... it will still be around always.

 

Not so with the Z. I'm not saying it's blazing fast either. But for an auto, its pretty good. The Z uses a Triptronic system.

We aren't talking about most cars, now are we? The MT is slightly faster (considering equal driving skill). But nothing substantial, especially after throwing in the human element. The AT driver has more room for error that an MT driver. That is why it isn't a shoe-in for the MT to win all the time (as some try to claim).

Not discussing other cars atm, only the Z. So no insight on that. Just saying that you are trying to marginalize the Z's auto tranny, which I don't agree with.

 

Boxster. It's difficult but gratifying.

Does this...matter?

 

Ok first of all, I'm using forums to discuss things and share ideas, which is what they are intended for. I'm merely trying to discussing automatic transmissions in general, you can leave the nitpickiness at the door.

I'm saying it's slower, which you just admitted yourself. That means when driving it, you will feel the car as slower. You're not always flooring it against other drivers here. How about some real world insight here..


My argument contains facts only, so your argument against facts is gonna be a tough one for you.

 

Would you consider demographic as an influential factor in that 20% rate of faulty transmissions? Generally there are two types of people who buy a manual G35/350Z. Middle aged men who enjoy the thrill of driving, and 16-25 year olds who enjoy the thrill of driving, of which I am the latter. In both groups, you will find people who abuse their vehicle, drive aggressively, and/or simply aren't quite sure exactly what they're doing. And then add to that fact that that number might just be exacerbated by the fact that this poll was taken on a forum of G35 enthusiasts? Would you concede the fact that the demographic of people who will spend time on the internet talking about their cars are generally passionate about their vehicles and their driving reflects this?

I've heard awful things about BMW's and Audi's lemon rate. And I know quite a few very happy repeat owners. I wouldn't call 20% indicative of an awful product when it is also the part of the car that has the most direct driver interaction.

 

I liked the styling. Performance wise, the Z isn't stellar in any particular area, however, it is a very nice well-rounded sports car.

As far as the transmission choice... I used to drive a semi for a couple years and other smaller m/t vehicles. I'm taking a break from shifting all those gears. But I'll let some of you all in on a little secret... An AT Z is also alot of fun to drive and performs good. So to each his/her own. To anyone who thinks otherwise... Screw off. This is really an old & tiresome argument.

 

Just trying to determine the length of your driving experience. I guess from the time that you got your license, until the time that you bought a Boxter, you drove your parent's vehicles?

 

You wouldn't consider 20 percent an abnormally high failure rate? What if we held that standard to everything else in production? What if it was a critical engine part for an aircraft? Would you still feel the same way?

Like I said, enjoy your MT. I prefer the piece of mind knowing mine will most likely last alot longer than yours.

 

Yeah. I know I made it sound like I've been driving for YEARS upon YEARS (not intentional), but I actually got my first car (pilot) 2 years ago from november.

I've driven a lot, though. Too much actually.

And they bought them for me to use.

 

No.

I waited to buy an '06 model, due to all of the problems with the '03-'05 models.

 

HDPD350Z, I think you can save your attacks now. Obviously, most enthusiasts don't give a "beep" about relability and longevity. Why do you a 1993 RX-7 still sells for over 20k on ebay? You think people don't know the rotary would blow up any second? Please.. you're talking like an angry old man educating their kids about how AT is more reliable than MT. We're giving opinions to the original poster. Not to you... Don't get offended.

I asked you earlier about what did you base on when you bought your Z. Obviously you're not looking for the same things that a lot of us do. And that's why you made your choice on the AT. Good for you...

 

But this isn't a discussion on automatic transmissions in general. It started out as a post from someone asking a questions and turned into a debate on the Z's MT vs AT (which it always does, because a few MT owners are too pathetic to enjoy what they have and instead sling dirt because they can't handle someone else doing something differently).

How do you figure one can feel it's slower? I know my car is faster after the mods I installed, but to be honest, I can't really "feel" it being faster. My butt dyno isn't that attuned.


Your argument contains overly generalized statements, which are not and can never be factual unless it applies 100% across the board.