I applaud you MT drivers. I really do...
08-30-2007, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NightRida
You guys still don't get it do you? Try looking at the "BIG" picture and get out of your boxes. The traditional manual transmission is going to be dead!
No it's not.
08-30-2007, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NightRida
You guys still don't get it do you? Try looking at the "BIG" picture and get out of your boxes. The traditional manual transmission is going to be dead!
Here's another picture for you car head guys, can you tell me what vehicle this is from?
BTW-"The car has one transmission — with enough gears for two. The eight-speed automatic has a manual mode and steering-wheel-mounted shift paddles. There is no true manual, which is sure to turn off some driving enthusiasts.
??? says the transmission, which it calls direct-sport shift, changes gears within one-tenth of a second and executes rev matching for smoother downshifts and decreased wear. Not to be confused with some automated-manual transmissions, like Audi's S tronic, this one uses a fluidic torque converter — but it locks up in 2nd through 8th gears."cars.com
Here's another picture for you car head guys, can you tell me what vehicle this is from?
BTW-"The car has one transmission — with enough gears for two. The eight-speed automatic has a manual mode and steering-wheel-mounted shift paddles. There is no true manual, which is sure to turn off some driving enthusiasts.
??? says the transmission, which it calls direct-sport shift, changes gears within one-tenth of a second and executes rev matching for smoother downshifts and decreased wear. Not to be confused with some automated-manual transmissions, like Audi's S tronic, this one uses a fluidic torque converter — but it locks up in 2nd through 8th gears."cars.com
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NIIIIIIIIICE!!!
08-30-2007, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lilquazyvietboi
ok night rida.... think back to when was the first automatic came out.....
now...... M/T is still around no?
more and more driver are going to automatic cause they dont wanna fail the driver's test... and never bothered learning M/T later.
the way i see it......... a/t is a standard in every car.... m/t is a more sportier option.
i think it wont die in my lifetime and im almost 21. there are many high class car that STILL use m/t like the ccx, and zonda just to name a few.
almost all japanese D1, drifters use m/t. and almost all top drag machine uses a/t.
now...... M/T is still around no?
more and more driver are going to automatic cause they dont wanna fail the driver's test... and never bothered learning M/T later.
the way i see it......... a/t is a standard in every car.... m/t is a more sportier option.
i think it wont die in my lifetime and im almost 21. there are many high class car that STILL use m/t like the ccx, and zonda just to name a few.
almost all japanese D1, drifters use m/t. and almost all top drag machine uses a/t.
08-30-2007, 07:13 PM
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I doubt the MT will go away anytime soon. There are many drivers who enjoy shifting and pressing a clutch pedal. The MT is an inexpensive solution that provides a thrill that experienced (and new for that matter) drivers enjoy.
Heck... Porsche cannot get their market to move past the 911 rear-engine car with all its handling and transmission quirks. They still make this thing and people line up to buy it.
--Spike
Heck... Porsche cannot get their market to move past the 911 rear-engine car with all its handling and transmission quirks. They still make this thing and people line up to buy it.
--Spike
08-31-2007, 01:24 AM
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The 350z MT is a breeze to drive, feels like any other MT car att low speeds. As for MT being exotic, I would have to say that statement is totally incorrect, atleast here in sweden. Every car is a MT, and everyone knows how to drive them. If you cant, it would be as if you were handicapped.
As for the Porsche 911s, I would pick one over a Z any day, atleast the GT2, GT3, Turbo models etc.
As for the Porsche 911s, I would pick one over a Z any day, atleast the GT2, GT3, Turbo models etc.
09-07-2007, 11:22 PM
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If it were a perfect world, truth be told I'd probably have an auto DD, or at least something like a civic, since I had one as a previous DD and the clutch was light as a feather. The Z isn't so bad though. I find it more than tolerable, and I drive uphill with a billion stoplights, and then up a mountain (no joke, haha) to get to school.
09-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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In a prefect world, Ohio wouldn't be so flat with straight roads... Lol!
Seriously, the Z's clutch is pretty light. And the mechanical feel of the shifter adds to the overall experience IMO.
The manual tranny in my Civic is supah slick, light and easy to work. What a bore!
Seriously, the Z's clutch is pretty light. And the mechanical feel of the shifter adds to the overall experience IMO.
The manual tranny in my Civic is supah slick, light and easy to work. What a bore!
09-08-2007, 01:43 PM
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03's have and even stiffer clutch and an even notchier shifter than 04s and everything after...FYI. It's precise, and unforgiving, the way a manual tranny on a weekend track worhty car should be....End
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09-08-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RBull
Sorry but you haven't got a lot of credibility with this post.
Stating the shifter is like pushing a stick through a bag of rocks and the clutch is too heavy is really a big stretch. I'm not really sure what you mean about taking incredible patience though.
While the shifter is a bit notchy it's nothing like your description. The clutch effort is typical of and what might be expected with a 300hp car. It's stiffer than a Civic or a Mazda 3 for example but that's not surprising.
You might want to consider hitting the gym given your difficulty with moving the gear lever and the clutch pedal.
I'm only 150 lbs 5'11" and have no difficulty.
Stating the shifter is like pushing a stick through a bag of rocks and the clutch is too heavy is really a big stretch. I'm not really sure what you mean about taking incredible patience though.
While the shifter is a bit notchy it's nothing like your description. The clutch effort is typical of and what might be expected with a 300hp car. It's stiffer than a Civic or a Mazda 3 for example but that's not surprising.
You might want to consider hitting the gym given your difficulty with moving the gear lever and the clutch pedal.
I'm only 150 lbs 5'11" and have no difficulty.+1
IMO the Z's tranny feels better than my bud's 06 Carrera S just MO.
Clutch being to heavy... Ha! Try driving a ATS triple carbon clutch.
6 speed is the only way to handle anything over 500hp
09-08-2007, 08:00 PM
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Sports Cars are all about feeback. The suspension, steering, & even the chassis. Why would the clutch and shifter be any different. It is very hard to track a car with a sloppy soft clutch and a slippery shifter efficiently. Nissan has always strived for the Z car to be a formidable track star.
09-09-2007, 03:42 AM
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MT and AT
First thing, about the firmness on the Z's clutch, i have never had a problem with it, in my opinion it's quite light. I have a 2004 Touring and i can't imagine it ever being AT. I Live in Okinawa, Japan. Here I own a 91 Skyline GTR, Now my GTR is a blast to drive, however I really do feel people forget how fun the Z is to drive.
To be perfectly honest, I would take my Z over my GTR any day. The torque, the handling characteristics are all just wonderful. not to mention all the looks we all KNOW we get
Let me ask you AT guys this, have you driven the MT and if so do you regret not getting that, or do you actually prefer the AT. If so, why? I hate to repeat it but rev-matching, and accelerating all the way through a corner without a hint of lag is absolute bliss.
To be perfectly honest, I would take my Z over my GTR any day. The torque, the handling characteristics are all just wonderful. not to mention all the looks we all KNOW we get
Let me ask you AT guys this, have you driven the MT and if so do you regret not getting that, or do you actually prefer the AT. If so, why? I hate to repeat it but rev-matching, and accelerating all the way through a corner without a hint of lag is absolute bliss.
09-09-2007, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by usmanasif
We keep it real. That is just how we roll.
I cant drive anything BUT MT....I feel totally conected to the car with it, and it makes driving so much more controlled and fun. Its a sad state of affairs in this country when you cant even find a mt on a lot when shopping for a new car. I think it reflects the "lazy American" mentality that weve all adopted. I was in the market for a G35S (sedan) and or Maxima. Well, Nissan F'd up in imho with totally dropping the mt from the lineup, and just TRY to find ANY G35 sedan with mt...nearly impossible. Well, in the long run it was well worth it....I ended up with my sweet Z
Oh yeah...and for the shift comment......I cant remember a much more pleasurable experience than shifting that ****! Like butta kid!
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09-09-2007, 10:08 AM
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i find you only have a real sportsfeeling when your M shifting with my z, i most say in traffic i prefer a AT.but once you have problems with the AT your lost