Agreed 100%. Even the weights I posted last week people were fighting against yet they're extremely close.

The .29 coefficient of drag is FREAKING AWFUL too.

 

Fail Jimbo! I'd say that Zs are less reliable than Vettes (just by frequenting the forums, more Zs appear to go back for warranty issues than Vettes do). Even my 07 Infiniti G35s which has a similar interior to the new Z shows it's signs of cost cutting on a regular basis. Granted the Vette's interior isn't world-reknowned for being great, it's better than the 03-08 Z's and probably not that much worse than the new one.

 

I added the Track brakes to my Enthusiast Z and carefully weighed the components, the calipers were lighter and the discs were heavier but the total added weight came to only 8.8 pounds.

At the same time I added Nismo 18" forged wheels with wider 245 and 275 tires front and rear and the new wheels and tires were 33 pounds lighter than my original 17 inch cast wheels with narrower tires.

So this combination of parts saved me over 24 pounds...not bad for bigger brakes, wider tires and wheels...I think the Sports Package is on the same trend as this.

 

For most, "track hardware" would also include suspension upgrades such as thicker (heavier) anti-roll bars, stiffer springs and track duty shocks, or coilovers, a true BBK (weigh a 14" Stoptech against stock parts, for instance), etc. For instance, the NISMO is basically a track-prepped enthusiast, and weighs ~50 pounds heavier. You made some nice, selective upgrades that were smart choices for weight considerations.

But the 370Z sport pkg already comes with very lightweight 19" forged wheels.

And aluminum calipers.

So not much to lose, there, with aftermarket parts. Or compared to base components, since the rotors are much larger AND thicker. What size were the track brakes you put on?

Plus, the sport pkg adds VLSD...

And front chin/rear hatch spoilers... which add some weight.

The sport pkg could have a net weight gain of ~40 pounds.

And, yes... the sport spare is aluminum... a nice touch.

I think a sport touring will be right around 3300 pounds, about 80 pounds less than a current 350Z Grand Touring, which has similar equipment levels.

So we've got 80-pound lighter car with more power and better handling... an excellent value for sure, but still a little porky for my tastes. Especially compared to a 300+ pound lighter Cayman S.

Tough choice...

 

No info on the new Nizmo Version?

 

yea it sucks that this car doesnt weigh 3100lbs and have 350hp/300tq but honestly if you are buying this car for daily driving or to have some fun on the streets will you even notice the difference? i can understand for those who want to use their car for track purposes and such but i highly doubt thats everyone who's complaining. i'm not complaining about 332hp and 3232lbs, its quite fine with me.

 

sick! I want to buy one now

 

A new Cayman S is almost double the price of what the 370Z will go for, so there really is no comparison. Give Nissan engineers another 25-30 grand to work with on the price of the Z and they could surely drop a 100 or so more lbs off, but could porsche do the same with a 35K Cayman, AND give us 332hp? I think not. Buyers who can plunk down 50-60K on a new car are in a totally different buying bracket than the majority of Z owners.

 

weak, and all 370z's aboard the fail boat plz

 

+1 here...I am a huge Porsche fan and have a 911 besides my Z. I drove my business partners new Cayman at a Porsche autocross recently. The car is very nice but at $59,100 for the Cayman S to which you must add $1090 for Xenon lights and $550 for automatic climate control all standard on the Z...give me a break.

Porsche makes a huge profit on their cars, in the range of 25-35% according to Forbes magazine, I bet Nissan's margin is much less and their value for the dollar is much better than Porsche IMHO.

 

 

FYI, Nissan tried to leave the rear fog from the European market, on for the US version. It came down to the wire, then California did what they always do, and told Nissan they wouldn't allow it (it was too high). Thus we get stuck with the black lens. Not sure if it will be deleted in the future, when they have more time to produce a replacement cover.

IIRC, you can get get this on the Mini Cooper as an option. I really dont see what the big deal is.

 

Yeah, I would guess the vette is the most reliable sports car in history. While the interior is not great, its not as horrible as everyone makes it out to be. If anything its rather plain and doesnt set the car apart as much as it should. But it makes the car cheap to own for what it is. They do now offer the 4LT package that leathers out the entire interior, but at a cost of about 10 grand. OUCH!

 

As mentioned before, weight distribution isn't as important as moment of inertia.

FYI, the 08+ s2k is now 49/51 weight distribution. In a FR car. wtf.

 

wat.

come on brian.. u know thats not bad-

well. considering the new accord is 0.26 or something..

0.29 is not bad- remember you also induce drag when trying to reduce rear lift via lip spoiler and under body channels..

that front lip spoiler is def bigger than the 03 track front lip..

 

No question, the Cayman S at MSRP is a rip-off... the reason I didn't buy one. And the 370Z at $35-40K is quite a value, especially now compared to the 350Z.

But I'm looking at 2 year old Cayman S's... around $40K-$45K... so similar price point. The major depreciation hit has already occured... find a certified used example, and it comes with a 100K mile warranty. Thank you, tanked economy.

 

This is my first post here I am currently deployed to iraq, and have been looking around here for a while my current ride is 03 Eclipse Gt Spyder looking to upgrade to either 08 350z or 370z. But enough backstory and back on topic I hope this is not a repost for fear of flame lol. But I found these pictures dont know if they have been put up already.






Can be seen here
http://370ztech.com/

Sorry if this is repost of pictures there are alot of threads on this car I searched I am a member of club3g with same user name.

 

I think we'll here many more stories of people sliding these cars right off the highways when it starts to sprinkle... assuming the thing still rides on bridgestones.

Seeing the 370 specs is disappointing but not surprising; maybe I'll be more impressed when some track times start coming out.

 

ZoinK!

 

The Veyron's Cd is 0.41 'normally'. With top speed mode enabled, it is 0.36.

I think .29 is rather spectactular, especially when you consider the swept area. The Camry's total drag is still greater than that of the Z.