Street Racing forum NO MORE
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Originally Posted by redman333
No thats not fair, street racing is smart, no sense in wasting money to go to a track, where they can insure your car and its in a controlled setting without innocent bystandards. (Can you sense sarcasm) treet racing is stupid even though I've done it before, I do agree 100% Lets not encourage it anymore.
as well you should be
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https://my350z.com/forum/drag/242823-drag-racing-gone-bad.html
This guy is out 27K
Its going to suck to have to pay off a car note on a 4k pound paper weight.
This guy is out 27K
Its going to suck to have to pay off a car note on a 4k pound paper weight.
Originally Posted by 95snoozer
There is ABSOLUTELY no insurance for your car at the track.Not only that is the dealer gets any wind that you have created the mechanical problems while racing at the track, where it is documented sometimes recorded, You are completely screwed and can be black listed.
as well you should be
as well you should be
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Excellent post. +1000
Originally Posted by 2Cool4Skool
That's exactly why my350z should have a "street" section. In fact, the "street" section should be expanded to include sub-sections like "in memorium" to remember those lost to street racing. Those that had friends and family lost to street racing should post their stories of the person's life and under what circumstances that led to the accident. If people are educated about what really happens during a street race, they will think twice and have more options to consider before they start layin' rubber.
Ignorance is what kills. Education saves lives. When you eliminate an entire section and prevent a discussion of what happens during a race, "street racing" becomes mystified and all some kid has to go on is what they saw on Fast n Furious where one can crash their 350z over a cliff and walk away from it without endangering their life. With a good discussion, whoever is reading it will get the idea that its not that way in real life.
I know some smart-asses will say but that's just common sense..... but how do you suppose one gets "common sense"? "Common sense" is something that gets repeated over and over til one gets it ingrained in their head and THEN it becomes "common sense". If there is no discussion, then one will have to rely on "fast n furious" for their common sense when faced with a challenge to race. When the challenge comes up, its too late to think..... you either got the sense or you don't. So if the issue of street racing was never discussed, then its pedal-to-the-metal cuz the only reference point was the glamorous street racing that was shown in "fast n furious".
For example.......
There was a recent thread in the now defunct "street" section where some guy was in a race with his lil' brother and friend in the passenger seat. The guy who posted the story was so focused on "racing", he wrote about his "passengers" as a mere afterthought. It woulda been a cool story, BUT a few people noticed that he had "passengers" and called him out on that. Most everyone thought that sucked that he had "passengers" (2 in the passenger seat) while street racing. While I don't remember the exact words, the guy who wrote the story admitted that it was unsafe.
As far as I'm concerned, several lives were saved because of that post. The "passengers" who might be riding with him in the future, the guy himself, and people reading the story. THE "STREET" SECTION SAVES LIVES!!
After reading something like that, its information that stays inside your head. So when a similar situation is encountered, those that were educated about that scenario will have options to decide what to do and knowing that their actions will affect their loved ones, they will choose to back off the gas pedal.
That's how a "street" section saves lives. People will point out the dangers and "argue" a bit and maybe get a bit childish at times, but in the end, the person who is thinking about "street racing" will be much more aware knowing the dangers involved.
Had there not been a "street" forum, that guy would still be oblivious of his actions that threaten the lives of his loved ones in the passenger seat cuz of his tunnel vision. He woulda went on doing it again. The people who commented in the thread expanded his perception of his driving enviroment and he now is more aware and will drive safer because of it.
Just think about how many teenage mothers got pregnant cuz they didn't werent' educated enough to consider options so they just went with their emotions? Its the same with "street racing". If one never had a forum to discuss what really happens during a street race, then you'll just go with your emotions and ego and risk life and limb.
Ignorance is what kills. Education saves lives. When you eliminate an entire section and prevent a discussion of what happens during a race, "street racing" becomes mystified and all some kid has to go on is what they saw on Fast n Furious where one can crash their 350z over a cliff and walk away from it without endangering their life. With a good discussion, whoever is reading it will get the idea that its not that way in real life.
I know some smart-asses will say but that's just common sense..... but how do you suppose one gets "common sense"? "Common sense" is something that gets repeated over and over til one gets it ingrained in their head and THEN it becomes "common sense". If there is no discussion, then one will have to rely on "fast n furious" for their common sense when faced with a challenge to race. When the challenge comes up, its too late to think..... you either got the sense or you don't. So if the issue of street racing was never discussed, then its pedal-to-the-metal cuz the only reference point was the glamorous street racing that was shown in "fast n furious".
For example.......
There was a recent thread in the now defunct "street" section where some guy was in a race with his lil' brother and friend in the passenger seat. The guy who posted the story was so focused on "racing", he wrote about his "passengers" as a mere afterthought. It woulda been a cool story, BUT a few people noticed that he had "passengers" and called him out on that. Most everyone thought that sucked that he had "passengers" (2 in the passenger seat) while street racing. While I don't remember the exact words, the guy who wrote the story admitted that it was unsafe.
As far as I'm concerned, several lives were saved because of that post. The "passengers" who might be riding with him in the future, the guy himself, and people reading the story. THE "STREET" SECTION SAVES LIVES!!
After reading something like that, its information that stays inside your head. So when a similar situation is encountered, those that were educated about that scenario will have options to decide what to do and knowing that their actions will affect their loved ones, they will choose to back off the gas pedal.
That's how a "street" section saves lives. People will point out the dangers and "argue" a bit and maybe get a bit childish at times, but in the end, the person who is thinking about "street racing" will be much more aware knowing the dangers involved.
Had there not been a "street" forum, that guy would still be oblivious of his actions that threaten the lives of his loved ones in the passenger seat cuz of his tunnel vision. He woulda went on doing it again. The people who commented in the thread expanded his perception of his driving enviroment and he now is more aware and will drive safer because of it.
Just think about how many teenage mothers got pregnant cuz they didn't werent' educated enough to consider options so they just went with their emotions? Its the same with "street racing". If one never had a forum to discuss what really happens during a street race, then you'll just go with your emotions and ego and risk life and limb.
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Deleting the "Kill Section" from this site is just more proof of the nanny state mentality that is becoming more and more prevalent in American society.
BTW, doesn't this fall under the "Pussification of America" section?
BTW, doesn't this fall under the "Pussification of America" section?
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the more i read the least....i have to say...the people that deleted the forum and support it have no point when to post. The only thing they say is keep it on the track and that racing has cost some lives...but like stated above...racing deaths dont come close to DWI deaths....yet there is a thread about post ur after drunk pics....then **** threads....some pointless stuff
Im done with this thread...some poor moderating was done in the racing forum....i would gladly and im sure many other would join and take up that offer up.
Im done with this thread...some poor moderating was done in the racing forum....i would gladly and im sure many other would join and take up that offer up.
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Originally Posted by USN HM 350Z
actually, yes you can buy track insurance on your vehicle. Most people just choose not to.
the track also does not cover you.
You can get insurance for anything. Jay-Lo insured he Butt for some rediculous amount of money.
Athletes can insure their arms, doctors, their hands, etc. Of ccourse you know this
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Just a warning. It kind of sucks to win an event if you are racing a warrantied car. You might walk into the dealer complaining of clutch after 20k and they show you a picture of yourself standing next to your car with a huge trophy and a big smile on your face. 
Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
There have been discussions among the moderators several times in the past years about the problematic nature of the posts in that forum. Of all the individual forums, that one has probably generated more reported posts, locked threads and banned users than any other forum. Too many trolls, too many *****-measuring contests, lots of insults, etc.
JMO - Dave
JMO - Dave
edit-all this non Z owner bashing is dumb also, I can think of a few members (Like snoozer, jackie, bboypuer..) who didnt own Z's and were true enthusiasts and posted good info and taught everybody about their specific platform or just spread knowledge in general, Ive learned things about domestics and Evo's from these guys that I wouldnt have learned otherwise, there are good non Z owner members that do contribute to the forums, like I said, if we only had a modertaor who would keep the nonsense down it would be great. No street racing forum is gonna make the real trolls start infesting other areas of the forums like we are already seeing.
Street racing forum--->Id like it back
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such a simply resolution. "Moderators," consider that...i mean this thread already has gone 10 pages already. Give it a shot, wont hurt anyone...and people that don't like it don't go into the forum either way. 2 New Mods for that one forum and it will be different/better than it was before.
such a simply resolution. "Moderators," consider that...i mean this thread already has gone 10 pages already. Give it a shot, wont hurt anyone...and people that don't like it don't go into the forum either way. 2 New Mods for that one forum and it will be different/better than it was before.
Like I said... I tried to become a moderator in that section months ago... didn't happen. Still up for the job if the section comes back...
And so deleting a section in an online forum is gonna prevent this from happening...
What kind of car was he "racing"? Were you witness to this race, or did you just read about it/hear about it through word-of-mouth? If he really was racing, then this is the kind of idiot not needed on the streets. There is a TIME AND PLACE to street race, and the place sure as hell ain't where there's people walking around. Even then, half of what's considered a "street race" isn't even really a street race... it's just some idiot driving fast and the media/police using street racing as an excuse.
Originally Posted by pyropete
Excellent post. We had someone die here this week in Sacramento. He got hit by a BMW while walking down the street. It was a street race that killed him.
What kind of car was he "racing"? Were you witness to this race, or did you just read about it/hear about it through word-of-mouth? If he really was racing, then this is the kind of idiot not needed on the streets. There is a TIME AND PLACE to street race, and the place sure as hell ain't where there's people walking around. Even then, half of what's considered a "street race" isn't even really a street race... it's just some idiot driving fast and the media/police using street racing as an excuse.
Originally Posted by Alberto
Why didnt we have better moderators in that forum? I think this site is moderated well, with the exception of that forum, when I would only see a modertaor step in after 1 week and 10 pages of BS. If you guys ever considered giving moderator powers to the respected forum members who were regulars in that forum, it would keep the trolls locked down, and the BS away. Somebody to warn people fairly, upon 2nd offense Id give them a few days off the site-problem solved. Now heading over to the other side of the fence, Id also ban/close the threads ofdiot Z owners who want to share how they just beat a minivan or Scion as no Z owner should brag about that or take the time to post trash like thatl Id also remove the "what would happen if I raced XXX" threads. I could clean up the street racing forum in 25 minutes lol...
edit-all this non Z owner bashing is dumb also, I can think of a few members (Like snoozer, jackie) who didnt own Z's and were true enthusiasts and posted good info and taught everybody about their specific platform or just spread knowledge in general, Ive learned things about domestics from these guys that I wouldnt have learned otherwise, there are good non Z owner members that do contribute to the forums, like I said, if we only had a modertaor who would keep the nonsense down it would be great. No street racing forum is gonna make the real trolls start infesting other areas of the forums like we are already seeing.
Street racing forum--->d like it back
edit-all this non Z owner bashing is dumb also, I can think of a few members (Like snoozer, jackie) who didnt own Z's and were true enthusiasts and posted good info and taught everybody about their specific platform or just spread knowledge in general, Ive learned things about domestics from these guys that I wouldnt have learned otherwise, there are good non Z owner members that do contribute to the forums, like I said, if we only had a modertaor who would keep the nonsense down it would be great. No street racing forum is gonna make the real trolls start infesting other areas of the forums like we are already seeing.
Street racing forum--->d like it back
Moderation is all that is needed IMO........
It's the same case with this problem that seems to arise all the time since no one seems to moderate the vendor classifieds:
https://my350z.com/forum/feedback-and-suggestions-for-our-forum/216930-who-moderates-the-vendor-classifieds.html
Honestly I don't think I've ever posted in that section or really ever read anything in it. The entire deletion of the section is what makes me go
The section was put in place for these types of posts/threads, but one day it's not okay and the entire section is deleted and street racing is suppose to majically end along with that forum section.
Strange stuff goes on around here........
Originally Posted by Alberto
Why didnt we have better moderators in that forum? I think this site is moderated well, with the exception of that forum, when I would only see a modertaor step in after 1 week and 10 pages of BS. If you guys ever considered giving moderator powers to the respected forum members who were regulars in that forum, it would keep the trolls locked down, and the BS away.
As for giving moderation powers to respected forum members - it was just a few month ago when the admins sent out a call for volunteers. Several new moderators were chosen but I don't recall seeing your name on the list of candidates as I certainly would have voted for you.
I see a lot of posts in this thread about the trolls and flaming but to tell you the truth, lately there hasn't been many Reported Posts. Now that the Street forum is gone, you can't come back and blame the problem on something when you didn't report it back when you had the chance.
Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
Like I said... I tried to become a moderator in that section months ago... didn't happen. Still up for the job if the section comes back...
And so deleting a section in an online forum is gonna prevent this from happening...
What kind of car was he "racing"? Were you witness to this race, or did you just read about it/hear about it through word-of-mouth? If he really was racing, then this is the kind of idiot not needed on the streets. There is a TIME AND PLACE to street race, and the place sure as hell ain't where there's people walking around. Even then, half of what's considered a "street race" isn't even really a street race... it's just some idiot driving fast and the media/police using street racing as an excuse.
And so deleting a section in an online forum is gonna prevent this from happening...
What kind of car was he "racing"? Were you witness to this race, or did you just read about it/hear about it through word-of-mouth? If he really was racing, then this is the kind of idiot not needed on the streets. There is a TIME AND PLACE to street race, and the place sure as hell ain't where there's people walking around. Even then, half of what's considered a "street race" isn't even really a street race... it's just some idiot driving fast and the media/police using street racing as an excuse.
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
The Street forum, much like the Lounge/Off Topic forum were given a certain amount of leeway when it came to threads there. Had it been moderated like the rest of the board, threads would have been closed at 2 pages and then we would have heard all the *****ing and complaining about heavy-handed moderation.
As for giving moderation powers to respected forum members - it was just a few month ago when the admins sent out a call for volunteers. Several new moderators were chosen but I don't recall seeing your name on the list of candidates as I certainly would have voted for you.
I see a lot of posts in this thread about the trolls and flaming but to tell you the truth, lately there hasn't been many Reported Posts. Now that the Street forum is gone, you can't come back and blame the problem on something when you didn't report it back when you had the chance.
As for giving moderation powers to respected forum members - it was just a few month ago when the admins sent out a call for volunteers. Several new moderators were chosen but I don't recall seeing your name on the list of candidates as I certainly would have voted for you.
I see a lot of posts in this thread about the trolls and flaming but to tell you the truth, lately there hasn't been many Reported Posts. Now that the Street forum is gone, you can't come back and blame the problem on something when you didn't report it back when you had the chance.
why not have a mary jane forum as well? or how to hack computers forum?! i mean, if people so badly want to talk about illegal things, why not these as well? street racing is illegal and so are drugs. why have a forum for something thats against the law. i dont wanna hear some fabricated story about how some kid 'walked' an eclipse from a roll.
the people on my350 dont condone ILLEGAL street racing and by doing this shows that. Does that mean street racing is going to stop? no, but its one less place to discuss it.
- its about time they got rid of that forum.
the people on my350 dont condone ILLEGAL street racing and by doing this shows that. Does that mean street racing is going to stop? no, but its one less place to discuss it.
- its about time they got rid of that forum.
Originally Posted by sofa king
why not have a mary jane forum as well? or how to hack computers forum?!
...the people on my350 dont condone ILLEGAL street racing and by doing this shows that. Does that mean street racing is going to stop? no, but its one less place to discuss it.
...the people on my350 dont condone ILLEGAL street racing and by doing this shows that. Does that mean street racing is going to stop? no, but its one less place to discuss it.
But I guess they condone **** and radical Islam since they allow that to stay around.
I believe its truly a shame for a thread to be closed and a subject to be banned. People should be allowed to discuss whatever they like and the public will decide whether or not the content is of any interest. Yes, street racing is not only dangerous but it is also illegal but banning the subject is not going to stop anyone from doing it.
Obviously there's substantial interest for the subject since its getting banned and to all the people that are annoyed by the threads on this matter, you could have simply clicked on something else.
To be silenced SHOULD be a scary thought to all Americans, to me its a reality because I come from not only a 3rd world country but a pre-communist one where speaking your mind was a thing of the past, tv, and radio stations have been slowly terminated by the government.
Lets be honest here. Anyone that has been on this forum for a while has at some point or another shared a street race story with the rest of us and I'll include myself in that bunch. So my final final, and most profound thought is... What's the big deal???
To the staff: I'm not trying to undermine your authority in any way. Just merely expressing my take on the subject.
Obviously there's substantial interest for the subject since its getting banned and to all the people that are annoyed by the threads on this matter, you could have simply clicked on something else.
To be silenced SHOULD be a scary thought to all Americans, to me its a reality because I come from not only a 3rd world country but a pre-communist one where speaking your mind was a thing of the past, tv, and radio stations have been slowly terminated by the government.
Lets be honest here. Anyone that has been on this forum for a while has at some point or another shared a street race story with the rest of us and I'll include myself in that bunch. So my final final, and most profound thought is... What's the big deal???
To the staff: I'm not trying to undermine your authority in any way. Just merely expressing my take on the subject.