Fr/Rr solid bushing installed... amazing!
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Fr/Rr solid bushing installed... amazing!
Ive read alot of posts abot " Do I need to replace my bushings" but theres not much about what it really drives like afterwards, other than talk of wheel hop etc.
I have about 70-ish k miles on the car, just did stance coilovers lx, and all the other standard fix ups... but the car just seemed clunky, and the rear felt really unstable and had alot of wiggle. Just felt like it wasnt a real sports car yet.
I knew my rear bushing was out because if I change gears quickly and let the clutch out fast, I could hear a clunk in the rear end..and I saw it as well when I did my exhaust.
DUDE.... it is sooooooo nice having this mod done, I cant even tell you. Satisfaction of driving and ownership has increased like ten fold seriously.
Its not really louder per se, you can hear a bit of mechancal noise just when you start from a dead stop, but for the most part, its pretty darn NOT noticeable. Its far from a supercharger whine as they ssay... its 50 times quieter than that, so fear not, and theres really no added vibration.
BUT the handling is RAZOR sharp now, and it finally feels like it does to drive my friends 2007 996 Porsche 911.
HUUUGE shout out to Vitaly at Pitstop Performance and Coz at Concept Z Performance for the HUGE hook up on the labor, and to a job well done.
Bottom line, this fixes all the things you never knew were wrong with your hi mile 350z, period.
The shifter shakes a hell of alot less on downshifting too.
It is literally like driving a brand new car again. Super tight, quiet, no squeaks, rattles, clunks, and it is a bit "faster" by butt dyno since there is no nasty lag while the engine and drivetrain use the power to simply move the differential around before actually moving your tires.
If you spend a grand on coilovers but dont do this mod, you have wasted your money. Its fantastic. BTW, I used SPL from and rear bushings.
I have about 70-ish k miles on the car, just did stance coilovers lx, and all the other standard fix ups... but the car just seemed clunky, and the rear felt really unstable and had alot of wiggle. Just felt like it wasnt a real sports car yet.
I knew my rear bushing was out because if I change gears quickly and let the clutch out fast, I could hear a clunk in the rear end..and I saw it as well when I did my exhaust.
DUDE.... it is sooooooo nice having this mod done, I cant even tell you. Satisfaction of driving and ownership has increased like ten fold seriously.
Its not really louder per se, you can hear a bit of mechancal noise just when you start from a dead stop, but for the most part, its pretty darn NOT noticeable. Its far from a supercharger whine as they ssay... its 50 times quieter than that, so fear not, and theres really no added vibration.
BUT the handling is RAZOR sharp now, and it finally feels like it does to drive my friends 2007 996 Porsche 911.
HUUUGE shout out to Vitaly at Pitstop Performance and Coz at Concept Z Performance for the HUGE hook up on the labor, and to a job well done.
Bottom line, this fixes all the things you never knew were wrong with your hi mile 350z, period.
The shifter shakes a hell of alot less on downshifting too.
It is literally like driving a brand new car again. Super tight, quiet, no squeaks, rattles, clunks, and it is a bit "faster" by butt dyno since there is no nasty lag while the engine and drivetrain use the power to simply move the differential around before actually moving your tires.
If you spend a grand on coilovers but dont do this mod, you have wasted your money. Its fantastic. BTW, I used SPL from and rear bushings.
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Wow, i just noticed the clunk go away and improved feel on and off throttle. Nothing as crazy as you say.
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I have had this DREADED problem since i hit 50,000 miles...i really want to love my car again but have suffered from bad handling for the past 60k miles cause i have 110,000 mile on my Z now.
WHERE can i get this part?
and you are correct because i have upgraded every suspension part except the bushings.
I just got my Tax return today and REALLY would love for you to give us some contact info or a link.
Thank you so much for posting this.
I have had this DREADED problem since i hit 50,000 miles...i really want to love my car again but have suffered from bad handling for the past 60k miles cause i have 110,000 mile on my Z now.
WHERE can i get this part?
and you are correct because i have upgraded every suspension part except the bushings.
I just got my Tax return today and REALLY would love for you to give us some contact info or a link.
Thank you so much for posting this.
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I have had this DREADED problem since i hit 50,000 miles...i really want to love my car again but have suffered from bad handling for the past 60k miles cause i have 110,000 mile on my Z now.
WHERE can i get this part?
and you are correct because i have upgraded every suspension part except the bushings.
I just got my Tax return today and REALLY would love for you to give us some contact info or a link.
Thank you so much for posting this.
I have had this DREADED problem since i hit 50,000 miles...i really want to love my car again but have suffered from bad handling for the past 60k miles cause i have 110,000 mile on my Z now.
WHERE can i get this part?
and you are correct because i have upgraded every suspension part except the bushings.
I just got my Tax return today and REALLY would love for you to give us some contact info or a link.
Thank you so much for posting this.
http://www.jscspeed.com/350z/suspens...p_bushings.htm
http://www.jscspeed.com/350z/suspens...p_subframe.htm
My friend did the same mod to his s14 silvia and he said the exact same thing ...
He claimed it was like driving a whole new car again and that the handling and rear end tightened up and made a noticable improvement!
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Seriously.. I ordered this part from THREE places.. and I guess the manufacturer was backordered for a while.... but Coz got them here in the same week I ordered them!
call Cozman at conceptZperformance..... he's a local shop here in PHX but is a friend of mine.. please give him the biz.... also, his shop specializes in OEM Nissan parts too... you can get everything at one time! Tell him I sent you.
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/specials.php
The fr AND rear SPL bushings were about 200 bucks.
hres the company's page, btu please order from Coz. Keep it in the family!
http://www.splparts.com/main4/index.htm
call Cozman at conceptZperformance..... he's a local shop here in PHX but is a friend of mine.. please give him the biz.... also, his shop specializes in OEM Nissan parts too... you can get everything at one time! Tell him I sent you.
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/specials.php
The fr AND rear SPL bushings were about 200 bucks.
hres the company's page, btu please order from Coz. Keep it in the family!
http://www.splparts.com/main4/index.htm
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Vitaly! thanks for the labor man.. Ill be by today ... I think its my driver side coilover sleeve thats making the noises... I filled the gas tank and the sound lessened, and also I can replicate the noise by lifting the fender.
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I have had this DREADED problem since i hit 50,000 miles...i really want to love my car again but have suffered from bad handling for the past 60k miles cause i have 110,000 mile on my Z now.
WHERE can i get this part?
and you are correct because i have upgraded every suspension part except the bushings.
I just got my Tax return today and REALLY would love for you to give us some contact info or a link.
Thank you so much for posting this.
I have had this DREADED problem since i hit 50,000 miles...i really want to love my car again but have suffered from bad handling for the past 60k miles cause i have 110,000 mile on my Z now.
WHERE can i get this part?
and you are correct because i have upgraded every suspension part except the bushings.
I just got my Tax return today and REALLY would love for you to give us some contact info or a link.
Thank you so much for posting this.
They definitely give you much better overal feel for the rear of the car
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Check www.jscspeed.com I think Whiteline of Australia makes a set for the 350z
http://www.jscspeed.com/350z/suspens...p_bushings.htm
http://www.jscspeed.com/350z/suspens...p_subframe.htm
My friend did the same mod to his s14 silvia and he said the exact same thing ...
He claimed it was like driving a whole new car again and that the handling and rear end tightened up and made a noticable improvement!
http://www.jscspeed.com/350z/suspens...p_bushings.htm
http://www.jscspeed.com/350z/suspens...p_subframe.htm
My friend did the same mod to his s14 silvia and he said the exact same thing ...
He claimed it was like driving a whole new car again and that the handling and rear end tightened up and made a noticable improvement!
The OP replaced the differential mount bushings (there is a front and a rear..confused yet?!!):
Front
install here:
Rear
Vs stock:
Install here:
(second picture also shows the Whiteline Rear Traction Kit (Subframe bushings) installed as well
The SPL solid ones replace the factory bushings at the 'ears' of the pumpkin (called the front diff bushings) as well as the large cylindrical bushing that is in the subframe (rear diff bushing) as shown above
Whiteline just came out with a differential bushing kit (front) too - it retains the stock rear one in the subframe, but for the front 'ears', instead of having to press out the factory rubber bushings as you do with the Whiteline, they simply install directly over them. So, just another option out there depending on what the customer is after. We stock both types.
In additon to these, there are lots of other bushings both at the front (Whiteline and SPL both offer replacements, and we stock both) and rear of the car (Whiteline again having the most complete range of replacements, NISMO offers some as well, we stock both). All of these degrade over time as well, and can be substantially improved upon. They will literally completely transform the car
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I would personally like to see an upgrade packages WITH labor included offered by several shops. The labor is what will determine how many people actually replace these bushings and others. Installed prices of front/rear packages, rear cradle package, etc. would get people excited about dropping the coin.
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Love the rear cradle shot Adam. Have you had a chance to review the new cradle and diff bushings or is the car not back together yet? Losing the hydraulic bushings must make the car very well mannered now, want to hear your opinion when you get the chance.
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I would personally like to see an upgrade packages WITH labor included offered by several shops. The labor is what will determine how many people actually replace these bushings and others. Installed prices of front/rear packages, rear cradle package, etc. would get people excited about dropping the coin.
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^^ Yes, I would like to see "Bushing Packages" offered by local shop/retailers at installed prices. However, it doesn't look like these kinds of installed packages would be a big seller based on the interest of this thread. I would just like a better estimate of what it would cost to replace different sets of bushings. I'm sure installing these different sets of bushings would differ widely from shop to shop. I'm really looking for a fair price/labor comparison. I wish I was your coast Kwame as I would have requested "an installed package" from you already
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I will be doing them on my car in the near future, but have a bunch of other stuff to do before hand. We've sold a good amount of the subframe kits so far, to people all over the place, and the feedback we got back was extremely positive. Everyone who got back to us after install reported that the car hooked much better from both a dead stop as well as powering out of turns. They also reported alot less skipping over bumps as their suspension was now able to do its job more efficiently.
For install costs, you're best bet is referring to your favorite local shop, it's sort of impossible to have universal costs for such jobs IMHO.